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(03-06-2014 11:00 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  Rockets got jobbed at EMU if they had call fouls right on the 7 footer he would have been out in the first 10 minutes of the game. Worst officiated game I saw all year and there have been plenty of bad ones.

Thanks for being a perfect example of my points. The refs don't play the game the players do. Now stop crying in my beer.
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There was some questionable calls against UT in the EMU game, but that isn't what lost it for us. We couldn't hit water if we fell out of a boat that night and it looked like we'd never seen a zone defence before. Lets hope round 2 is much better.
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(03-07-2014 08:18 AM)emanoh Wrote:  There was some questionable calls against UT in the EMU game, but that isn't what lost it for us. We couldn't hit water if we fell out of a boat that night and it looked like we'd never seen a zone defence before. Lets hope round 2 is much better.

There were questionable calls against EMU as well...just like there are in every college basketball game for every team. College refs are the worst.
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(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Hurgles were really, REALLY bad. We looked sharp offensively against mostly zone D which was nice since we can't usually shoot, but we glhad some success pounding it in to Crunch which tells me its not much of a zone. Wouldn't mind having their little freshman. She had a nice shooting night.

Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

I am not dismissive of Sweeny. She is having a great freshmen season. Her roll on the EMU team is a shooting number two position player. There is no doubt she is an outstanding shooter. What I did say was that she is a liability on defense. Any time she is on the floor, her team has to play a zone defense. Many coaches favor a man to man, or a man to man with some form of a zone mixed in. She is a average ball handler, who got stripped twice in the game Wednesday night. Because of her size her passing is limited much the same way a short quarterback is in football. She fits into her teams style of play perfectly at EMU. I give their coach credit for recruiting her and using her strength to his teams benefit. We got a lot of uncontested outside shoot because EMU had to play a zone defense. I am happy we had a good shooting night. Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit.
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RE: WBB: Eastern Michigan at Toledo
(03-07-2014 02:32 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Hurgles were really, REALLY bad. We looked sharp offensively against mostly zone D which was nice since we can't usually shoot, but we glhad some success pounding it in to Crunch which tells me its not much of a zone. Wouldn't mind having their little freshman. She had a nice shooting night.

Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

I am not dismissive of Sweeny. She is having a great freshmen season. Her roll on the EMU team is a shooting number two position player. There is no doubt she is an outstanding shooter. What I did say was that she is a liability on defense. Any time she is on the floor, her team has to play a zone defense. Many coaches favor a man to man, or a man to man with some form of a zone mixed in. She is a average ball handler, who got stripped twice in the game Wednesday night. Because of her size her passing is limited much the same way a short quarterback is in football. She fits into her teams style of play perfectly at EMU. I give their coach credit for recruiting her and using her strength to his teams benefit. We got a lot of uncontested outside shoot because EMU had to play a zone defense. I am happy we had a good shooting night. Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit.

In addition to scoring 16.7 points a game, Sweeney is second on her team in assists and second in steals (and 1st in turnovers, supporting your point that she is not a great ball-handler). She certainly is quick enough to play good defense, so I'm sure any decent coaching staff could help her overcome any defensive problems that she had in high school. Eastern played zone last year as well, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply that Sweeney's defense liabilities forced EMU to play a zone against us. And I think you are being dismissive when you say, "Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit." That comment implies that Sweeney deserves no more or less credit than any other DI athlete. In fact, she deserves more, given that she is going to win conference freshman of the year hands down in the major women's sport.

She's certainly having a better year than any of our freshmen.
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(03-07-2014 03:23 PM)Dwight Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 02:32 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Hurgles were really, REALLY bad. We looked sharp offensively against mostly zone D which was nice since we can't usually shoot, but we glhad some success pounding it in to Crunch which tells me its not much of a zone. Wouldn't mind having their little freshman. She had a nice shooting night.

Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

I am not dismissive of Sweeny. She is having a great freshmen season. Her roll on the EMU team is a shooting number two position player. There is no doubt she is an outstanding shooter. What I did say was that she is a liability on defense. Any time she is on the floor, her team has to play a zone defense. Many coaches favor a man to man, or a man to man with some form of a zone mixed in. She is a average ball handler, who got stripped twice in the game Wednesday night. Because of her size her passing is limited much the same way a short quarterback is in football. She fits into her teams style of play perfectly at EMU. I give their coach credit for recruiting her and using her strength to his teams benefit. We got a lot of uncontested outside shoot because EMU had to play a zone defense. I am happy we had a good shooting night. Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit.

In addition to scoring 16.7 points a game, Sweeney is second on her team in assists and second in steals (and 1st in turnovers, supporting your point that she is not a great ball-handler). She certainly is quick enough to play good defense, so I'm sure any decent coaching staff could help her overcome any defensive problems that she had in high school. Eastern played zone last year as well, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply that Sweeney's defense liabilities forced EMU to play a zone against us. And I think you are being dismissive when you say, "Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit." That comment implies that Sweeney deserves no more or less credit than any other DI athlete. In fact, she deserves more, given that she is going to win conference freshman of the year hands down in the major women's sport.

She's certainly having a better year than any of our freshmen.
Not really sure where giving anyone a compliment that is playing division one athletics is dismissive. Really don't know where you are coming from with that type of comment. To use your own word, your last comment regarding our freshmen is dismissive. We have a good freshmen class that has had to step up earlier than most classes and deal with some unfortunate injuries at the same time. Don't be dismissive of them with your comments. How many practices have you attended to see what their journey has been? Our freshmen are practicing at 6:00 A.M. in the morning on class days. YES all division one athletes deserve the same credit for their hard work in their sport and academic areas. That includes Sweeney. Exactly the same. The extra credit you are talking about comes at the end of the year with special honors. If she wins the freshman of the year, god bless her.

My comments about her are realistic due to her size. I celebrate her accomplishments for reasons I will not go into here. I am not sure how many of her games you watched when she was at Rogers or played during the summer programs. From your comment about her defense in high school I don't think very many. She was a good defensive player at Rogers because of her quickness and guarding players closer to her size. She was a smart defensive player as well. I can give you many reasons why her size hurts her defensively but I am sure you already know.

The entire EMU offense this year is set up around her outside shooting. Most of their ball and player screens are designed to get her an open shoot. If you want good coaching there it is. I will however, take our coach staff over anyone around.

She is a good player within the EMU style of play. Celebrate her success, but don't be dismissive about our freshmen.

Might be better to have this discussion in four years.

I am glad you are a rocket fan. Go blue!
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(03-06-2014 07:58 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 07:17 PM)djsfw57 Wrote:  "Hurgles were really, REALLY bad."

I didn't see the game or get to listen to it, so maybe that is why I am lost. Can someone tell me what hurgles are?

EMU used to be the Hurons, later changed to Eagles. I try to be current while paying homage to their illustrious past. Sometimes I go with Eagons.

LOL That's funny. Thanks for the explanation. I grew up in a far away state in another universe and there are still lots of things I have to learn!
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(03-07-2014 07:13 PM)djsfw57 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 07:58 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 07:17 PM)djsfw57 Wrote:  "Hurgles were really, REALLY bad."

I didn't see the game or get to listen to it, so maybe that is why I am lost. Can someone tell me what hurgles are?

EMU used to be the Hurons, later changed to Eagles. I try to be current while paying homage to their illustrious past. Sometimes I go with Eagons.

LOL That's funny. Thanks for the explanation. I grew up in a far away state in another universe and there are still lots of things I have to learn!

We also have the Skinhawks of Miami, who were Redskins but are now Hawks, while maintaining their original color. Of the Indian team names only the Chippewas of CMU kept their name and I think the tribe actually approved of that to the NCAA.
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(03-07-2014 06:58 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 03:23 PM)Dwight Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 02:32 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

I am not dismissive of Sweeny. She is having a great freshmen season. Her roll on the EMU team is a shooting number two position player. There is no doubt she is an outstanding shooter. What I did say was that she is a liability on defense. Any time she is on the floor, her team has to play a zone defense. Many coaches favor a man to man, or a man to man with some form of a zone mixed in. She is a average ball handler, who got stripped twice in the game Wednesday night. Because of her size her passing is limited much the same way a short quarterback is in football. She fits into her teams style of play perfectly at EMU. I give their coach credit for recruiting her and using her strength to his teams benefit. We got a lot of uncontested outside shoot because EMU had to play a zone defense. I am happy we had a good shooting night. Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit.

In addition to scoring 16.7 points a game, Sweeney is second on her team in assists and second in steals (and 1st in turnovers, supporting your point that she is not a great ball-handler). She certainly is quick enough to play good defense, so I'm sure any decent coaching staff could help her overcome any defensive problems that she had in high school. Eastern played zone last year as well, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply that Sweeney's defense liabilities forced EMU to play a zone against us. And I think you are being dismissive when you say, "Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit." That comment implies that Sweeney deserves no more or less credit than any other DI athlete. In fact, she deserves more, given that she is going to win conference freshman of the year hands down in the major women's sport.

She's certainly having a better year than any of our freshmen.
Not really sure where giving anyone a compliment that is playing division one athletics is dismissive. Really don't know where you are coming from with that type of comment. To use your own word, your last comment regarding our freshmen is dismissive. We have a good freshmen class that has had to step up earlier than most classes and deal with some unfortunate injuries at the same time. Don't be dismissive of them with your comments. How many practices have you attended to see what their journey has been? Our freshmen are practicing at 6:00 A.M. in the morning on class days. YES all division one athletes deserve the same credit for their hard work in their sport and academic areas. That includes Sweeney. Exactly the same. The extra credit you are talking about comes at the end of the year with special honors. If she wins the freshman of the year, god bless her.

My comments about her are realistic due to her size. I celebrate her accomplishments for reasons I will not go into here. I am not sure how many of her games you watched when she was at Rogers or played during the summer programs. From your comment about her defense in high school I don't think very many. She was a good defensive player at Rogers because of her quickness and guarding players closer to her size. She was a smart defensive player as well. I can give you many reasons why her size hurts her defensively but I am sure you already know.

The entire EMU offense this year is set up around her outside shooting. Most of their ball and player screens are designed to get her an open shoot. If you want good coaching there it is. I will however, take our coach staff over anyone around.

She is a good player within the EMU style of play. Celebrate her success, but don't be dismissive about our freshmen.

Might be better to have this discussion in four years.

I am glad you are a rocket fan. Go blue!

Sorry, didn't mean to be dismissive about the efforts of our freshmen. I didn't mean to imply that our freshmen aren't working hard to improve their games. For all I know, our freshmen may put in more hours and work harder than Sweeney. As a fan, I don't have access to that information. I do think it's accurate to say, though, that Sweeney is having a better year than any of our freshmen. If you disagree, I'd be curious to know which or our freshmen you think is having as good a year as Sweeney. If we have this discussion in another three years, I hope we can agree that our recruiting class turned out to be better than Eastern's.

I'm confused, now, about your criticism of Sweeney's man-to-man defense. If she played good defense in high school and EMU plays nothing but zone, then how do you know that she's a defensive liability? Is it just her height?
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RE: WBB: Eastern Michigan at Toledo
(03-08-2014 10:25 AM)Dwight Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 06:58 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 03:23 PM)Dwight Wrote:  
(03-07-2014 02:32 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

I am not dismissive of Sweeny. She is having a great freshmen season. Her roll on the EMU team is a shooting number two position player. There is no doubt she is an outstanding shooter. What I did say was that she is a liability on defense. Any time she is on the floor, her team has to play a zone defense. Many coaches favor a man to man, or a man to man with some form of a zone mixed in. She is a average ball handler, who got stripped twice in the game Wednesday night. Because of her size her passing is limited much the same way a short quarterback is in football. She fits into her teams style of play perfectly at EMU. I give their coach credit for recruiting her and using her strength to his teams benefit. We got a lot of uncontested outside shoot because EMU had to play a zone defense. I am happy we had a good shooting night. Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit.

In addition to scoring 16.7 points a game, Sweeney is second on her team in assists and second in steals (and 1st in turnovers, supporting your point that she is not a great ball-handler). She certainly is quick enough to play good defense, so I'm sure any decent coaching staff could help her overcome any defensive problems that she had in high school. Eastern played zone last year as well, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply that Sweeney's defense liabilities forced EMU to play a zone against us. And I think you are being dismissive when you say, "Anyone playing a Division 1 sport deserves a lot of credit." That comment implies that Sweeney deserves no more or less credit than any other DI athlete. In fact, she deserves more, given that she is going to win conference freshman of the year hands down in the major women's sport.

She's certainly having a better year than any of our freshmen.
Not really sure where giving anyone a compliment that is playing division one athletics is dismissive. Really don't know where you are coming from with that type of comment. To use your own word, your last comment regarding our freshmen is dismissive. We have a good freshmen class that has had to step up earlier than most classes and deal with some unfortunate injuries at the same time. Don't be dismissive of them with your comments. How many practices have you attended to see what their journey has been? Our freshmen are practicing at 6:00 A.M. in the morning on class days. YES all division one athletes deserve the same credit for their hard work in their sport and academic areas. That includes Sweeney. Exactly the same. The extra credit you are talking about comes at the end of the year with special honors. If she wins the freshman of the year, god bless her.

My comments about her are realistic due to her size. I celebrate her accomplishments for reasons I will not go into here. I am not sure how many of her games you watched when she was at Rogers or played during the summer programs. From your comment about her defense in high school I don't think very many. She was a good defensive player at Rogers because of her quickness and guarding players closer to her size. She was a smart defensive player as well. I can give you many reasons why her size hurts her defensively but I am sure you already know.

The entire EMU offense this year is set up around her outside shooting. Most of their ball and player screens are designed to get her an open shoot. If you want good coaching there it is. I will however, take our coach staff over anyone around.

She is a good player within the EMU style of play. Celebrate her success, but don't be dismissive about our freshmen.

Might be better to have this discussion in four years.

I am glad you are a rocket fan. Go blue!

Sorry, didn't mean to be dismissive about the efforts of our freshmen. I didn't mean to imply that our freshmen aren't working hard to improve their games. For all I know, our freshmen may put in more hours and work harder than Sweeney. As a fan, I don't have access to that information. I do think it's accurate to say, though, that Sweeney is having a better year than any of our freshmen. If you disagree, I'd be curious to know which or our freshmen you think is having as good a year as Sweeney. If we have this discussion in another three years, I hope we can agree that our recruiting class turned out to be better than Eastern's.

I'm confused, now, about your criticism of Sweeney's man-to-man defense. If she played good defense in high school and EMU plays nothing but zone, then how do you know that she's a defensive liability? Is it just her height?

It should be obvious to anyone that Sweeney is having a better year than any our freshmen. Although as a group they have seen a lot more floor time than the freshman class did last year, they have not seen enough to have made a good audition for the all-freshman team on which Sweeney is a lock. However, that is not to say they can not be major contributors down the road----Look at Ana Capotosto's game time prior to this year (which I would guess without looking it up was a lot less than Janice Monakana, Sophie Reecher or Elena de Alfreado have this year and maybe even Baker and Braun) and yet she has become a major contributor this year. I do concur that any final evaluation is hard to make before they have played their last game.

I do think that the emphasis on height, while important, is being a bit exaggerated here. Obviously a height mismatch can work to the disadvantage of the shorter player but the shorter player is also likely to be quicker and perhaps more agile so the mismatch is somewhat compensated for. JRL is listed at only 5 ft. 4 inches herself (2 inches taller than Sweeney), yet UT does not go to zone every time she is in the line-up and I can't believe a 2 inches difference (between Sweeney and JRL) means much against, say a 5ft 10 inch opponent.
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(03-06-2014 12:08 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Hurgles were really, REALLY bad. We looked sharp offensively against mostly zone D which was nice since we can't usually shoot, but we glhad some success pounding it in to Crunch which tells me its not much of a zone. Wouldn't mind having their little freshman. She had a nice shooting night.

Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

Excellent point, EMU seems to do well recruiting Toledo high school players for the women's team which I predict will take giant steps forward next year. As for the men's game on Saturday remind what's was the score the last we met?

Who would have thought that a women's basketball thread would have drawn 3 of the 4 EMU fans in existence onto the Toledo board?
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(03-06-2014 10:24 AM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-06-2014 01:11 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Hurgles were really, REALLY bad. We looked sharp offensively against mostly zone D which was nice since we can't usually shoot, but we glhad some success pounding it in to Crunch which tells me its not much of a zone. Wouldn't mind having their little freshman. She had a nice shooting night.

Saw her play a lot. She is a great shooter but a defensive liability and not a great passer or ball handler. I am sure that is why we didn't recruit her.

Sweeney is indeed a great shooter, in fact good enough to currently have the 5th highest scoring average in the conference which I think will certainly get her on the MAC Freshman team this year. Jim Heller seemed to think that she will also one of the players contending for MAC FOY as well. Except for Yolanda Richardson, UT hasn't had much luck with recruiting local talent lately of which there has been a lot, and the way the Cat Wells story turned out didn't do much to improve this average.

Don't get me wrong, as long as UT recruits talented players, I don't care whether they are local or not. I also understand the staff's interest in recruiting players who fit the specific mold they want, especially after their experience with the 2012 class. So I am not saying that UT should have been recruiting Sweeney (because I don't know if they should have or not), but I am saying I would not be quite as dismissive about Sweeney as you seem to be. Just because any player, local or not, doesn't end up UT doesn't mean that she can not be an excellent talent.

Excellent point, EMU seems to do well recruiting Toledo high school players for the women's team which I predict will take giant steps forward next year. As for the men's game on Saturday remind what's was the score the last we met?

Who would have thought that a women's basketball thread would have drawn 3 of the 4 EMU fans in existence onto the Toledo board?

They've got 4 fans?
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