http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/3/1/546161...-standings

Wow EMU, NIU, WMU AND BUFFALO on the other side would be perfect for us.

Damn, you guys would be so lucky.

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(03-01-2014 11:13 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Wow EMU, NIU, WMU AND BUFFALO on the other side would be perfect for us.

And for us...

(03-01-2014 11:13 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Wow EMU, NIU, WMU AND BUFFALO on the other side would be perfect for us.

I was thinking the same exact thing.

(03-02-2014 12:30 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(03-01-2014 11:13 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Wow EMU, NIU, WMU AND BUFFALO on the other side would be perfect for us.

I was thinking the same exact thing.

Plus an Akron/ Ohio matchup in the quarterfinals too will be a war, which can only help Toledo if they can win out.


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Here's where we stand and what is coming up:
1. *Toledo 12-4, at Central, vs. Eastern (2-1 vs. UB and WMU)
2. *Buffalo 12-4, at Akron, vs. BG (0-1 vs. UT, 1-0 vs. WMU)
3. *Western 12-4, vs. NIU, at Central
4. Akron 10-6, vs. Buffalo, vs. Kent
5. Ohio 9-7, at BG, at Miami (OU 1-0 vs. EMU)
6. Eastern 9-7, vs. Ball St., at Toledo
7. NIU 7-9, at Western, vs. Ball St. (KSU 1-1 vs. NIU, but NIU beat #1 UT)
8. Kent 7-9, vs. Miami, at Akron
9. Miami 7-9, at Kent, vs. OU (Miami 0-1 vs. both KSU and NIU)
10. BG 6-10, vs. OU, at Buffalo
11. Central 3-13, at Toledo, at Western
12. Ball St. 2-14, at Eastern, at NIU

*Clinched byes

If I follow this, three teams battling for the top two spots:

EMU @ Toledo will be UT's biggie to get a 2-bye seed (#1 or #2) and Buffalo @Akron for UB's chance for a #1 or 2 seed.

WMU has an easier road. Good chance to finish 14 - 4.

(03-02-2014 12:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  If I follow this, three teams battling for the top two spots:

EMU @ Toledo will be UT's biggie to get a 2-bye seed (#1 or #2) and Buffalo @Akron for UB's chance for a #1 or 2 seed.

WMU has an easier road. Good chance to finish 14 - 4.

Toledo: Condition 1: win @ CMU, win vs. EMU
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Buffalo lose 1, AND WMU lose 1 game
Condition 3: lose both games AND have WMU and Buffalo lose both games

Buffalo: Condition 1: win @ Akron, win vs. BG AND Toledo loss
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Toledo lose 1, AND have WMU lose 1 game

WMU: Condition 1: win vs. NIU, win @ CMU, AND Toledo lose 1, AND Buffalo lose 1 game
Condition 2: lose 1 game, AND Toledo lose 2, AND Buffalo lose 2 games

(03-03-2014 01:28 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-02-2014 12:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  If I follow this, three teams battling for the top two spots:

EMU @ Toledo will be UT's biggie to get a 2-bye seed (#1 or #2) and Buffalo @Akron for UB's chance for a #1 or 2 seed.

WMU has an easier road. Good chance to finish 14 - 4.

Toledo: Condition 1: win @ CMU, win vs. EMU
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Buffalo lose 1, AND WMU lose 1 game
Condition 3: lose both games AND have WMU and Buffalo lose both games

Buffalo: Condition 1: win @ Akron, win vs. BG AND Toledo loss
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Toledo lose 2, AND have WMU lose 1 game

WMU: Condition 1: win vs. NIU, win @ CMU, AND Toledo lose 1, AND Buffalo lose 1 game
Condition 2: lose 1 game, AND Toledo lose 2, AND Buffalo lose 2 games

FIFY...

Buffalo can't beat Toledo in a 2 or three team tie. to win the MAC UB *MUST* finish with more wins than Toledo and at least tied with WMU.

(03-03-2014 08:08 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 01:28 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-02-2014 12:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  If I follow this, three teams battling for the top two spots:

EMU @ Toledo will be UT's biggie to get a 2-bye seed (#1 or #2) and Buffalo @Akron for UB's chance for a #1 or 2 seed.

WMU has an easier road. Good chance to finish 14 - 4.

Toledo: Condition 1: win @ CMU, win vs. EMU
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Buffalo lose 1, AND WMU lose 1 game
Condition 3: lose both games AND have WMU and Buffalo lose both games

Buffalo: Condition 1: win @ Akron, win vs. BG AND Toledo loss
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Toledo lose 2, AND have WMU lose 1 game

WMU: Condition 1: win vs. NIU, win @ CMU, AND Toledo lose 1, AND Buffalo lose 1 game
Condition 2: lose 1 game, AND Toledo lose 2, AND Buffalo lose 2 games

FIFY...

Buffalo can't beat Toledo in a 2 or three team tie. to win the MAC UB *MUST* finish with more wins than Toledo and at least tied with WMU.

I think his scenarios were in order to get a top 2 seed

(03-03-2014 08:34 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 08:08 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-03-2014 01:28 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-02-2014 12:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  If I follow this, three teams battling for the top two spots:

EMU @ Toledo will be UT's biggie to get a 2-bye seed (#1 or #2) and Buffalo @Akron for UB's chance for a #1 or 2 seed.

WMU has an easier road. Good chance to finish 14 - 4.

Toledo: Condition 1: win @ CMU, win vs. EMU
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Buffalo lose 1, AND WMU lose 1 game
Condition 3: lose both games AND have WMU and Buffalo lose both games

Buffalo: Condition 1: win @ Akron, win vs. BG AND Toledo loss
Condition 2: lose 1 game AND have Toledo lose 2, AND have WMU lose 1 game

WMU: Condition 1: win vs. NIU, win @ CMU, AND Toledo lose 1, AND Buffalo lose 1 game
Condition 2: lose 1 game, AND Toledo lose 2, AND Buffalo lose 2 games

FIFY...

Buffalo can't beat Toledo in a 2 or three team tie. to win the MAC UB *MUST* finish with more wins than Toledo and at least tied with WMU.

I think his scenarios were in order to get a top 2 seed

Ahhhh Well in that canse it does ot matter what Toledo does doe UB to get the #2 seed... UB just needs to (a) win as many games as wmu or (b) win more than toledo but fewer then WMU.

How is UB the #1 seed

UB 2-0, Toledo 1-1 | 0-2
UB 1-1, Toledo 0-2, WMU 1-1 | 0-2

How is UB the #2 seed

UB 1-1, WMU 1,1 | 0-2, Toledo 1-1 | 2-0
UB 2-0, WMU 2-0 | 1-1, Toledo 2-0
UB 0-2, WMU 0-2

How is UB the #3 Seed

UB 1-1, Toledo 2-0 | 1-1, WMU 2-0
UB 0-2, Toledo 2-0 | 1-1, WMU 2-0 | 1-1