SWAC has four teams that have postseason bans but will be playing in their conference tourny. didn't uconn get barred from the final BET for this very reason?

how is this possible?

I'm sure there is some other official reason.

But just as a practical matter, I think the SWAC and MEAC are going to do whatever they want and no one is going to give them too much hassle about it. I would imagine the conference tournaments are financially-important for all the league-members, and they are not going to tell anyone to stay home unless the circumstances are just totally out of control.

(03-01-2014 05:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  SWAC has four teams that have postseason bans but will be playing in their conference tourny. didn't uconn get barred from the final BET for this very reason?

how is this possible?

IIRC, the Big East made a conference decision to keep UConn out of the conference tournament. That wasn't an NCAA requirement.

(03-01-2014 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-01-2014 05:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  SWAC has four teams that have postseason bans but will be playing in their conference tourny. didn't uconn get barred from the final BET for this very reason?

how is this possible?

IIRC, the Big East made a conference decision to keep UConn out of the conference tournament. That wasn't an NCAA requirement.

This is my recollection as well.

So what happens if they win their conference tournament?

(03-01-2014 10:06 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  So what happens if they win their conference tournament?

The SWAC’s automatic bid to the NCAA tournament will go to the eligible school that advances furthest in the conference tournament. If the furthest-advancing eligible teams are eliminated in the same round of the conference tournament, the automatic qualifier will go to the highest-seeded team.

I think this waiver is huge. Pretty much I think now going forward this will be the standard for all conferences. If the UConn situation had been next year, they would be going to the conference tournament I believe.

I can't wait to see the Vegas lines for their draw after they determine their AQ.

Wait until this next season when it could start affecting bowl-eligibility for football.

(03-01-2014 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-01-2014 05:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  SWAC has four teams that have postseason bans but will be playing in their conference tourny. didn't uconn get barred from the final BET for this very reason?

how is this possible?

IIRC, the Big East made a conference decision to keep UConn out of the conference tournament. That wasn't an NCAA requirement.

Exactly, it's up to the conferences to decide if they're going to be allowed into the tourneys. FAU's barred from the C-USA tourney this year because their barred from the big dance.

I commend the conferences that do ban the teams from their tourney (and that goes for the BE taking that step against Uconn as well)

Jackson State and Alabama State were the only two schools that voted against this...

Some are suggesting that both schools would be better served in another conference

https://soundcloud.com/jay-white-14/swac...ybody-play

The SWAC is receiving harsh criticism for its decision to allow ineligible teams to participate in this month's basketball tournament. Mississippi This Morning radio show host Jay White lit into the conference for its decision this morning, calling it "the dumbest league on earth."


White went on to say that Jackson State was killing itself slowly by its association with the SWAC.


"The SWAC doesn't respect JSU. The SWAC treats JSU like that semi-ugly girl at the bar. They can hit on every hot girl in the bar and strike out all night long, but that they can always go home with that semi hot girl. And for the SWAC, Jackson State is that semi-hot girl."

(03-06-2014 12:53 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Jackson State and Alabama State were the only two schools that voted against this...

Some are suggesting that both schools would be better served in another conference

https://soundcloud.com/jay-white-14/swac...ybody-play

The SWAC is receiving harsh criticism for its decision to allow ineligible teams to participate in this month's basketball tournament. Mississippi This Morning radio show host Jay White lit into the conference for its decision this morning, calling it "the dumbest league on earth."


White went on to say that Jackson State was killing itself slowly by its association with the SWAC.


"The SWAC doesn't respect JSU. The SWAC treats JSU like that semi-ugly girl at the bar. They can hit on every hot girl in the bar and strike out all night long, but that they can always go home with that semi hot girl. And for the SWAC, Jackson State is that semi-hot girl."

The SWAC never goes home with the semi hot girl.

(03-01-2014 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-01-2014 05:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  SWAC has four teams that have postseason bans but will be playing in their conference tourny. didn't uconn get barred from the final BET for this very reason?

how is this possible?

IIRC, the Big East made a conference decision to keep UConn out of the conference tournament. That wasn't an NCAA requirement.

As did the CAA with Towson and UNC-Wilmington.

Wasn't like half the SWAC postseason ineligible. I would think if they voted on the issue, it would be pretty obvious.

(03-06-2014 06:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Wasn't like half the SWAC postseason ineligible. I would think if they voted on the issue, it would be pretty obvious.

4 of 10 are ineligible

(03-06-2014 12:53 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Jackson State and Alabama State were the only two schools that voted against this...

Some are suggesting that both schools would be better served in another conference

https://soundcloud.com/jay-white-14/swac...ybody-play

The SWAC is receiving harsh criticism for its decision to allow ineligible teams to participate in this month's basketball tournament. Mississippi This Morning radio show host Jay White lit into the conference for its decision this morning, calling it "the dumbest league on earth."


White went on to say that Jackson State was killing itself slowly by its association with the SWAC.


"The SWAC doesn't respect JSU. The SWAC treats JSU like that semi-ugly girl at the bar. They can hit on every hot girl in the bar and strike out all night long, but that they can always go home with that semi hot girl. And for the SWAC, Jackson State is that semi-hot girl."

I would disagree. The SWAC bends over J-State because they're a big money maker. The last school that needs to say anything about APR would be JSU, they just recently escaped from APR sanctions.

(03-07-2014 08:34 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  The SWAC bends over J-State because they're a big money maker.

GreenHornet, does Jackson State have the biggest athletic budget in the SWAC?

(03-07-2014 09:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 08:34 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  The SWAC bends over J-State because they're a big money maker.

GreenHornet, does Jackson State have the biggest athletic budget in the SWAC?

No. We have the largest athletic budget in the conference along with Southern. Texas Southern is third a do believe but budget and being the money maker is totally different. Texas Southern's athletic budget is more than JSU but JSU's has 3 times the fan base that Texas Southern has. When JSU travels anywhere it’s a big money maker for schools in the conference. Our sellouts at Cramton Bowl were all JSU games and that the case most places that they and Southern travel to. The SWAC championship game gets the highest attendance figures when either Jackson State or Southern is involved. Our fan base has grown to the 3rd largest in the conference but we don’t travel anywhere as well as those two schools do. Many times JSU and Southern will outnumber the hosting school's fans. That’s why these two get invited to more Classic games than anyone else, they bring $$$$$$$.

(03-07-2014 10:19 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 09:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  GreenHornet, does Jackson State have the biggest athletic budget in the SWAC?

No. We have the largest athletic budget in the conference along with Southern. Texas Southern is third a do believe but budget and being the money maker is totally different. Texas Southern's athletic budget is more than JSU but JSU's has 3 times the fan base that Texas Southern has. When JSU travels anywhere it’s a big money maker for schools in the conference. Our sellouts at Cramton Bowl were all JSU games and that the case most places that they and Southern travel to. The SWAC championship game gets the highest attendance figures when either Jackson State or Southern is involved. Our fan base has grown to the 3rd largest in the conference but we don’t travel anywhere as well as those two schools do. Many times JSU and Southern will outnumber the hosting school's fans. That’s why these two get invited to more Classic games than anyone else, they bring $$$$$$$.

Good info -- thanks.