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RE: Ukraine Says Russian Troops Have Seized Control of Two Airports In Crimea…
I'm reminded of the story of the English Bobbie chasing a criminal. In the US, the cop might say something like, "Stop, or I'll shoot." But of course Bobbies have no guns (although there are rumblings of change). So the story goes, the Bobbie yells, "Stop, Stop, Stop.. or I'll yell Stop again."
03-01-2014 06:08 PM
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(03-01-2014 06:07 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(03-01-2014 05:57 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(03-01-2014 05:49 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As long as Russian sticks to the eastern half of the country, I have zero problem with them doing this. While I believe that the western half of the country did the right thing by overthrowing the government they hated, I also believe that the pro-russian eastern half should be allowed to go to Russia. To the pro-russian side, the western new government is illegitimate as it just overthrew the democratically elected president and installed a pro-western government.

Bottom line is the country should be split into two halves. The western half can be Ukraine and the eastern half can join the Russian Federation. Fighting to keep the country whole is dumb.

I'm sure the Ukrainians are deeply satisfied that you approve of only half of them being subjugated.

They're not being subjugated. They're ethnic Russians. They don't want to be ruled by the new government in Kiev which is "illegitimate."

you're validating the resurrection of the former Soviet Union - and lets be clear that this is exactly what is happening - by creating artificial "ethnicities" that simply don't exist.
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RE: Ukraine Says Russian Troops Have Seized Control of Two Airports In Crimea…
Updates http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
Saturday, March 1 16:10 GMT: The leader of the UDAR party, Vitaly Klitschko, called on Saturday for a "general mobilization" after Russian senators voted to use stabilizing military forces on Ukrainian territory to settle the turmoil in the split country.

This Ukrainian newspapers states Putin has declared war http://www.pravda.com.ua/
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Think people will find this website interesting. Has updates from people living in Ukraine. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/index.php
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(03-01-2014 08:43 PM)hburg Wrote:  Think people will find this website interesting. Has updates from people living in Ukraine. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/index.php

That feels more like a conspiracy theory site than actual people living in Ukraine.
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(03-01-2014 08:58 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(03-01-2014 08:43 PM)hburg Wrote:  Think people will find this website interesting. Has updates from people living in Ukraine. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/index.php

That feels more like a conspiracy theory site than actual people living in Ukraine.

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I don't blame anyone for thinking that is more of a conspiracy theory website. I found it interesting because of the live updates from several posters from Ukraine. Whether or not it is from conspiracy theorist is beyond me. Take it for what it is worth.
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