These are scientists talking here.

Quote:Calls from environmentalists and lawmakers to cut carbon dioxide emissions to fight global warming would do nothing to stop global temperatures from rising, according to American and British climate scientists.

In fact, completely stopping all man-made carbon emissions would do nothing to stop the Earth from warming.

The U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the UK’s Royal Society have jointly put out a publication to lay out the knowns and unknowns of global warming science. The publication says that global temperatures are rising due to man-made greenhouse gas emissions, primarily from the burning of fossil fuels.

The publication, entitled “Climate Change: Evidence & Causes,” adds that scientists are more certain than ever that the continued, unabated burning of fossil fuels could warm the planet by as much as 8.6 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century.

Fears like this have spurred the U.S. and Europe to cut carbon emissions and try to convince the rest of the world to follow suit. In the U.S., the Obama administration has begun efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050. Across the Atlantic, Europeans are calling for a 40 percent emissions reduction by 2040.

But these efforts will likely be in vain, according to American and British scientists, because even stopping all greenhouse gas emissions would do nothing to stop global warming.

“Even if emissions of greenhouse gases were to suddenly stop, Earth’s surface temperature would not cool and return to the level in the pre-industrial era for thousands of years,” according to the joint publication.

Global surface temperatures would stay elevated for a thousand years and sea levels would continue to rise for centuries — even after temperatures stopped rising. There would need to be lots of cooling to reverse glacial melting and to reform the Greenland ice sheet.

In summation, U.S. and UK scientists say, “The current CO2-induced warming of Earth is therefore essentially irreversible on human timescales.”

Despite the dismal outlook of the planet, international diplomats are still adamant that they can hammer out an international climate deal in the near future. Though talks were hung up last year over disagreements about the level of international wealth transfers from rich countries to poor countries.

Last year, 132 countries stormed out of United Nations negotiations after it was clear that the U.S., Europe and Australia were not going to agree to any firm climate aid requirements until 2015. Australian diplomats, in particular, were accused by poor countries and activists of not taking the climate talks seriously.

“They wore T-shirts and gorged on snacks throughout the negotiation. That gives some indication of the manner they are behaving in,” said a spokeswoman for the Climate Action Network last year.

Diplomats are set to reconvene in 2015 where countries are expected to hash out an international climate agreement to replace the Kyoto Protocol.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/27/us-uk-...l-warming/

This is another fine piece of right-wing propaganda. The report being referred to is 36 pages long and refutes climate denial at every turn. So this conservative news outlet picks a single paragraph and frames it in a way to say "there's no point in trying to do anything". Of course they quote or summarize every part of that single paragraph except the crucial last sentence, "The amount and rate of further warming will depend almost entirely on how much more CO2 humankind emits." 36 pages worth of kicking the crap out of climate change deniers, and the deniers pull a single paragraph and cut it down to twist their message. And of course their sheep follow along without ever giving a thought to it (because they're not capable).

I did hear that scientists are working to engineer artificial clouds from natural chemicals that are supposed to cool the planet to help combat global warming. Just makes you wonder, it's like the butterfly effect when you fix one problem it creates another. In the end it's humans that are going away not the planet, just as the great George Carlin said.

Grad, So the report is accurate except the parts you disagree with.

Despite the dismal outlook of the planet, international diplomats are still adamant that they can hammer out an international climate deal in the near future. Though talks were hung up last year over disagreements about the level of international wealth transfers from rich countries to poor countries.

Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

(02-27-2014 10:39 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is another fine piece of right-wing propaganda.

It always is.

(02-28-2014 07:36 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-27-2014 10:39 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is another fine piece of right-wing propaganda.

It always is.

Yep, if it doesn't fit the prescribed narrative it MUST BE RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA. Never fails. That and the race card ends all discussions with libs if they don't agree with you.

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

In the grand scheme of things we will all be dead soon, but some sooner than others.

(02-28-2014 09:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

In the grand scheme of things we will all be dead soon, but some sooner than others.

It is arrogant to even think that there is anything WE can do to destroy the earth. We are better off just trying to live as comfortably as possible while here. Worrying about schit we cant control cuts years off the ride.

We should focus simply on "clean air". Everyone likes to breathe.

(02-28-2014 09:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

In the grand scheme of things we will all be dead soon, but some sooner than others.

Social Security's tables say I have 14 years left. Probably less when Obamacare's real problems kick in and I won't be able to find a doctor. But hey, I'll bet that's exactly what you want: isn't the plan to get rid of the seniors.

(02-27-2014 10:39 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is another fine piece of right-wing propaganda. The report being referred to is 36 pages long and refutes climate denial at every turn. So this conservative news outlet picks a single paragraph and frames it in a way to say "there's no point in trying to do anything". Of course they quote or summarize every part of that single paragraph except the crucial last sentence, "The amount and rate of further warming will depend almost entirely on how much more CO2 humankind emits." 36 pages worth of kicking the crap out of climate change deniers, and the deniers pull a single paragraph and cut it down to twist their message. And of course their sheep follow along without ever giving a thought to it (because they're not capable).

Hey, you watch your mouth, it won't be long before you melt or drown. Make peace, not war!

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

You're going to be melted by the earthly temps, or turned into zombies, or drown when the oceans and gulf rise up and take over the U/S...

(02-28-2014 10:10 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

In the grand scheme of things we will all be dead soon, but some sooner than others.

Social Security's tables say I have 14 years left. Probably less when Obamacare's real problems kick in and I won't be able to find a doctor. But hey, I'll bet that's exactly what you want: isn't the plan to get rid of the seniors.

The white ones, yes... White privilege has it's perks, eh?

(02-28-2014 10:14 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

You're going to be melted by the earthly temps, or turned into zombies, or drown when the oceans and gulf rise up and take over the U/S...

One day the sun is going to expand and swallow the Earth. Pretty sure that'll be blamed on mankind as well.

(02-28-2014 10:16 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 10:14 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

You're going to be melted by the earthly temps, or turned into zombies, or drown when the oceans and gulf rise up and take over the U/S...

One day the sun is going to expand and swallow the Earth. Pretty sure that'll be blamed on mankind conservatives as well.

FIFY

"“They wore T-shirts and gorged on snacks throughout the negotiation. That gives some indication of the manner they are behaving in,” said a spokeswoman for the Climate Action Network last year."


The Australians had it right, lmfao! They're like, "F*ck you guys and your fear over the mythical global warming shiit... I'm having a beer, mate"

(02-28-2014 10:10 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 09:27 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 07:07 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Oh, don't you know, the sky is falling.

So what do we do about it?

Oh, just transfer some wealth from rich companies to poor companies, that'll make it okay.

Huh?

I think this is the biggest problem that many have with the whole global warming argument. Not whether or not the planet is actually warming, not even whether it is a cycle or a trend. But if things are really as dire as the predictions, why is there no attempt at a solution?

You'll be dead soon, so what do you care?

We will all be dead soon. I have more important things to worry about than the damn climate.

In the grand scheme of things we will all be dead soon, but some sooner than others.

Social Security's tables say I have 14 years left. Probably less when Obamacare's real problems kick in and I won't be able to find a doctor. But hey, I'll bet that's exactly what you want: isn't the plan to get rid of the seniors.

I hope you have a lot of time left. I enjoy your company very much around here.