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Question to Marshall fans regarding the MAC
I see that not a whole lot of MU fans post here regularly, but I have a question for anyone who would care to address it. Pardon me, as I don't know a lot about the history between Marshall and the MAC, but I have noticed a recent spike of non-Marshall posters speculating that MU would be interested in rejoining the MAC. To me, as an outsider to the history/situation, it seems highly unlikely that Marshall would even consider this. Again, pardon me if this is a silly question, or is opening a "can of worms." Thank you.
02-26-2014 12:14 PM
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53 views, no response yet. I will assume the idea was as silly as I thought it was when I first read it.
02-27-2014 11:30 AM
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RE: Question to Marshall fans regarding the MAC
(02-27-2014 11:30 AM)paintedblue Wrote:  53 views, no response yet. I will assume the idea was as silly as I thought it was when I first read it.

Just saw this post. I think there are a couple positives of going back to the MAC. The first is geography. The MAC is a geographically tight conference with Huntington just on the outskirts of the footprint. Literally every conference game would be drivable. The second is established rivalries. And that is a product of what could be considered a third positive which is stability. Marshall has several rivalries with teams in the MAC from its time there. Miami is one of the most hated teams for a Marshall fan, and for good reason. There's also bad blood shared with Toledo, Akron, and Western Michigan. We have a rivalry with Ohio, but in my opinion that rivalry is more like ours with ECU- a lot of respect both ways.

A lot of people in Huntington think that these two facts alone merit a rejoining of the MAC. I'm not among them. I see the MAC's stability as a negative. There's no upward movement from schools in large metros with large budgets who succeed athletically. There is little commitment to athletics in the MAC. Besides that, their TV contract is for less dollars than ours and there are far too many weekday games. With that being said, they do get much more exposure than CUSA has lately. The bowl tie ins for CUSA are both more numerous and more prestigious than that of the MAC. I think the culture of Marshall fits in more with CUSA than the MAC. I see Huntington as a southern town. Not north. Not midwest. The cultures of the schools mesh better as well. Finally, the competition is better in CUSA, and with a universal motive to get better. The MAC clearly has a team get hot from time to time, but I think that little is done by the conference and the member schools to sustain that success.

The bottom line is, some fans see the two conferences on equal footing, with one making more geographic sense. Most see CUSA as superior to the MAC and would see a move there as a step backwards. I, as well as school leadership, am in the latter group. We aren't going anywhere.
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I think going back to the MAC wouldn't be a step back, as CUSA went downward moving their best teams to Big East/AAC -- and essentially having a souped-up SunBelt+ conference.

Yes, more money in the conference (for now?). The MAC is the only conference that stays the way it is, but will allow a temporary passer-by to stroll in a bit.

If CUSA, with their newer/younger teams gets going well, they should stay. In a few years, if it's still kinda flat -- I would say going to the MAC would be a good move if it fits well with Marshall. And with Marshall moving TO the MAC, it would I think tip the scales that way for the better overall.

I see CUSA as the "new team place".

AAC would be the best move for Marshall, IMO. Close locale to teams + better competition. Just hope that ECU, UCF, and Cinci don't jet to the ACC, though with all those big-conference expansions. Then you'd want to go to the MAC.

And the MAC's weekday games do get more exposure at the expense of attendance. Nationally televised. Just sayin'.
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RE: Question to Marshall fans regarding the MAC
(09-15-2014 04:58 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  I think going back to the MAC wouldn't be a step back, as CUSA went downward moving their best teams to Big East/AAC -- and essentially having a souped-up SunBelt+ conference.

Yes, more money in the conference (for now?). The MAC is the only conference that stays the way it is, but will allow a temporary passer-by to stroll in a bit.

Im going to take this step by step. The most money Marshall ever received in the MAC was 33,500 per year. Marshall when they joined the MAC had to agree to only take 1/4 the TV money other schools got and the MAC never let that go.

Now Marshall gets 1.3 million.

Quote:If CUSA, with their newer/younger teams gets going well, they should stay. In a few years, if it's still kinda flat -- I would say going to the MAC would be a good move if it fits well with Marshall. And with Marshall moving TO the MAC, it would I think tip the scales that way for the better overall.

CUSA is 11-0 against the MAC, SB, AAC and MWC so far this year.

Quote:I see CUSA as the "new team place".

I don't think this will be the norm

Quote:AAC would be the best move for Marshall, IMO. Close locale to teams + better competition. Just hope that ECU, UCF, and Cinci don't jet to the ACC, though with all those big-conference expansions. Then you'd want to go to the MAC.

Now with autonomy setting in, I don't see anyone going anywhere for a looong looooong time. There might be a move here or there but I think the big movement is over with for a while.

Quote:And the MAC's weekday games do get more exposure at the expense of attendance. Nationally televised. Just sayin'.

I enjoyed our time in the MAC, even though most MAC fans hated us. I mean Little Miami even started http://www.goodbyemarshall.com so Marshall could read their enduring haiku's.

I don't ever see Marshall going back to the MAC.
09-19-2014 09:01 PM
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