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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Actually 2013 attendance is up from the average of the 2010-2013 seasons.
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Rabonchild
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Would it not be possible for some schools in Metro areas to utilize arenas and some schools remove a few seats behind the goal post to extend the floor when playing football?
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
(02-24-2014 11:19 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: This is actually a solid idea. A lot of FCS and Division 2 programs could move to this format.
I actually rather like the idea. There is one problem though which brings up....
(02-25-2014 05:54 PM)Hoodoyoubelongto Wrote: Where are the players going to come from? Though I could be 100% wrong I have never heard of competitive, varsity level indoor football played by high schools.
To your first point, that is no different a task than the Arena football league faces, where it is a new sport to all of them. However the bigger issue is for most, people who play arena football are the ones whose (regular) football career is over. I am not sure how strong the talent pool would be for guys out of high school who think they might make it to the NFL, but the lack of experience is probably not an issue.
(02-25-2014 07:21 PM)chargeradio Wrote: One thing to remember is that an Arena Football field is the same size as an ice hockey rink - most schools won't have an arena that can accommodate it, and the ones that do will likely already be FBS.
Most arenas, near I say a huge majority, are actually built around a hockey rink. They may not have the equipment, or set up for hockey, but nearly every one is built around the bigger hockey/arena football/etc set up, so they can hold more events.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
I can take it one step further. I think indoor soccer, which is played on essentially the same size field, is something that should be considered. It is actually fun to watch (coming from someone who hates soccer), and would probably be rather inexpensive. Heck a women's league would probably offset arena football for Title IX issues.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Indoor soccer is a much faster and entertaining sport, played both when I was younger, indoor is a winter time thing up here to stay in shape during off season.
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When I lived in Baltimore, the Baltimore Blast won three MLIS championships in a row. Used to go to games. It was soccer played like basketball
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(02-25-2014 07:58 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: Title IX will kill this idea on the drawing board. Hell, it won't even get to the drawing board because of Title IX.
The sad thing is this would probably be a revenue-neutral sport on its own. But it would have to provide enough revenue for TWO sports in order to be truly revenue-neutral. The other sport would have to be a woman's sport, which would probably require another brand new, expensive facility.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Quote:Some schools that I would want in arena football are:
VCU, Belmont, UNC-G, Wichita St, St. John, Creighton, College of Charleston, Anchorage, Denver, and list of potential teams reaches across the country.
It should be noted that an Ice hockey rink/arena football field is 200 feet long, more than twice as long as a basketball court so many schools won't have an arena that is capable of hosting the team on campus. Wichita St for example couldn't host a team on campus, but could play their games at the city owned downtown arena that hosts a minor league hockey team.
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Re: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
I'd like the University of DETROIT more if they had arena football.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
The following schools could make a decent conference. UNC-Greensboro, College of Charleston, UNC-Wilmington, VCU, UNC-AShville, George Mason, George Washington, Loyola University Maryland, & American University. (PAAC=Premier Arena Athletic Conference).
Can someone suggest regional conferences in other parts of the country?
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Detroit, Butler, DePaul, Cleveland State, Xavier, Marquette, Oakland, UL-Chicago.
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(02-27-2014 11:57 AM)DexterDevil Wrote: Detroit, Butler, DePaul, Cleveland State, Xavier, Marquette, Oakland, UL-Chicago.
That would be a nice conference.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
Arena football would make sense, but at a lot of schools, there's a premium for court space. I don't know when you would play the games. You'd have to play them around weekends. Saturdays are out, probably Sundays, and Friday nights are dominated by high school football in most places.
CofC would probably do well with the sport, but you have to schedule around volleyball.
I do think the sport has potential. All you need is about 25-30 players, a field like the Arena Football League field, and it may work. I remember the AF2 days in the early 2000s and Charleston with 3 years out of 4 with losing records still drew 4K a game. The team in Greenville averaged over 10K a game for minor league indoor football in 2000. It expanded too quickly though.
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Re: RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
(02-27-2014 11:22 PM)sctvman Wrote: Arena football would make sense, but at a lot of schools, there's a premium for court space. I don't know when you would play the games. You'd have to play them around weekends. Saturdays are out, probably Sundays, and Friday nights are dominated by high school football in most places.
CofC would probably do well with the sport, but you have to schedule around volleyball.
I do think the sport has potential. All you need is about 25-30 players, a field like the Arena Football League field, and it may work. I remember the AF2 days in the early 2000s and Charleston with 3 years out of 4 with losing records still drew 4K a game. The team in Greenville averaged over 10K a game for minor league indoor football in 2000. It expanded too quickly though.
This idea would be for schools without gridiron football/lower division. Check my proposed conference, Saturdays could work.
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RE: For Some Schools Is It Time for (Arena) Football Conferences/Emphasis?
(03-02-2014 10:57 AM)DexterDevil Wrote: (02-27-2014 11:22 PM)sctvman Wrote: Arena football would make sense, but at a lot of schools, there's a premium for court space. I don't know when you would play the games. You'd have to play them around weekends. Saturdays are out, probably Sundays, and Friday nights are dominated by high school football in most places.
CofC would probably do well with the sport, but you have to schedule around volleyball.
I do think the sport has potential. All you need is about 25-30 players, a field like the Arena Football League field, and it may work. I remember the AF2 days in the early 2000s and Charleston with 3 years out of 4 with losing records still drew 4K a game. The team in Greenville averaged over 10K a game for minor league indoor football in 2000. It expanded too quickly though.
This idea would be for schools without gridiron football/lower division. Check my proposed conference, Saturdays could work.
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I have no doubt NYC and Philly would have enough teams to form a nice conference.
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(03-02-2014 10:57 AM)DexterDevil Wrote: This idea would be for schools without gridiron football/lower division. Check my proposed conference, Saturdays could work.
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Something else to consider. Arena football is often played at a different time than regular football (to draw fans). I point this out because for better or worse, you would likely have a lot of big colleges wanting to field arena teams to allow their football players to be "two sport" stars, which essentially would allow for year round practice. But I don't know if that helps or hurts.
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(02-26-2014 07:58 PM)msu_bears Wrote: Quote:Some schools that I would want in arena football are:
VCU, Belmont, UNC-G, Wichita St, St. John, Creighton, College of Charleston, Anchorage, Denver, and list of potential teams reaches across the country.
It should be noted that an Ice hockey rink/arena football field is 200 feet long, more than twice as long as a basketball court so many schools won't have an arena that is capable of hosting the team on campus. Wichita St for example couldn't host a team on campus, but could play their games at the city owned downtown arena that hosts a minor league hockey team.
I also believe there's a small arena in Park City (just north of Wichita) that is home to some level of arena football team. It used to be anyway. And that would probably make more sense playing in a 6k or so seat arena compared to 15k.
This is fun to think about. When Wichita was part of AFL2 I used to go to a lot of the games. It's a fun, fast paced game with lots of action and the Stealth were a lot of fun to watch. So was the Bomb Squad
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