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Another Blown Opportunity...
For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.
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(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.
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(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.
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(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
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(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

Correct. It also has the primary or secondary benefit (depending on how you look at it) of resting our top guys, who might be getting tired/worn down.
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Temple is a good example of teams getting better as the season progresses when there are good teams in the league. We have to keep improving because everyone else is. How to incorporate talented freshmen into that process strikesme as an area where the coach really can have an impact.
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(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

This is so true. Very true and I couldn't agree more. This is a horribly frustrating team to watch much of the time.

You don't have to be a coach of a big time team to see this. THAT is bothersome.
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(02-23-2014 05:18 PM)MemphisTgrsFan Wrote:  Temple is a good example of teams getting better as the season progresses when there are good teams in the league. We have to keep improving because everyone else is. How to incorporate talented freshmen into that process strikesme as an area where the coach really can have an impact.

Not really, our guards just decided to stop playing defense in second half. We spent so much time trying to make sports center plays we forgot how to make the simple ones.
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Too late it’s crunch time now. I doubt we’ll get a big enough lead in the remainder of our games to chance the newbies getting much PT. This should have been done much earlier in the season IMO.

In the AAC tournament one loss and you wait for selection Sunday. In the NCAA tournament it’s win or go home.
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Pastner has played King for extended minutes, but not last night. Dixon and Pellom do get good minutes anyway. So Pastner usually plays 8 guys, as most teams do as the season winds down and the rotation is tightened.

Woodson is finishing his internal suspension and Iverson, quite frankly, gets lost playing LMO.

Beale Street, thanks for the tip on the one loss deal for the AAC and win or go home for the NCAA tourney. I often wondered why the losing teams never were on TV again until the next season.
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(02-23-2014 06:42 PM)boss man Wrote:  Pastner has played King for extended minutes, but not last night. Dixon and Pellom do get good minutes anyway. So Pastner usually plays 8 guys, as most teams do as the season winds down and the rotation is tightened.

Woodson is finishing his internal suspension and Iverson, quite frankly, gets lost playing LMO.

Beale Street, thanks for the tip on the one loss deal for the AAC and win or go home for the NCAA tourney. I often wondered why the losing teams never were on TV again until the next season.

At least he got something right.
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King was awful last night just awful
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(02-23-2014 09:22 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  King was awful last night just awful

He played, what, 2 minutes? Awful is a stretch.
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At this point, even if he only plays 2 minutes; King should not be leaving guys open by 10' on a 3 point attempt.
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(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

So what? We don't get a say (unless you donate major bucks and have Bowens ear)...our job is to watch the games and cheer for the team.
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(02-23-2014 09:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

So what? We don't get a say (unless you donate major bucks and have Bowens ear)...our job is to watch the games and cheer for the team.

The forum exists to talk about this sort of things. Take a deep breathe, he is not calling for Pastner's head or anything ridiculous. It is a very true observation.
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(02-23-2014 09:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

So what? We don't get a say (unless you donate major bucks and have Bowens ear)...our job is to watch the games and cheer for the team.

Your job is whatever you wish it to be.
My job as a fan is as I define it, I don't need your help.
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(02-23-2014 10:30 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 09:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  For our 7 man rotation to demolish weak opposition and get more playing time for King, Iverson and Wilson. Let's hope the team can do better against a Houston team that has been reasonably competitive the last 3 games. Brutal.

you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

So what? We don't get a say (unless you donate major bucks and have Bowens ear)...our job is to watch the games and cheer for the team.

Your job is whatever you wish it to be.
My job as a fan is as I define it, I don't need your help.

This^^^
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(02-23-2014 10:43 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 10:30 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 09:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 02:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-23-2014 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you should have applied to be head coach...but you didn't.

You don't have to be a head coach to make that observation. It's tough to get King and especially Iverson minutes against the top end of our schedule. So it is a reasonable expectation that we want to beat up a little on the minnows to get these guys in.

Iverson needs minutes to develop. He apparently isn't ready to provide them in the big match ups, so some time in blowouts might get him some burn and help him prepare for next year, when he will likely be a big part of our plans.

After Houston, we are effectively done with 'easier games' (in quotes as no D1 game is or should be easy). It was a missed opportunity, not a big deal in the macro sense, but still not the optimal result.

So what? We don't get a say (unless you donate major bucks and have Bowens ear)...our job is to watch the games and cheer for the team.

Your job is whatever you wish it to be.
My job as a fan is as I define it, I don't need your help.

This^^^

To be fair, The gent did nail the big part of a fan's job (watch the game and cheer for the team are our big roles).

But why is a faint note that laments a lost opportunity (not a failure, just a lost opportunity) to play players we will need next year a bad thing?

If our only roles are to watch and not discuss, then why have mt.org at all?
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Regardless, fandom and all it entails is up to each fan individually.
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