(02-23-2014 05:25 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  If we keep building on this momentum, this is going to be a dynamite BB conference.

Agreed. And it will only get better with the addition of WKU next season.

(02-23-2014 03:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 03:03 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 02:55 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 02:06 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  ECU owns the tiebreaker over UAB and still has a game left against ODU. UNT, FIU, UAB and FAU have tougher games left than ECU.

But one of UAB's games is against Rice, which will get them to 7 wins.
ODU and Tulane are reasonably close to having 6 and 7 locked - 1 win for each will do it.
ECU will probably get the bye and a good chance at #8 if they finish 3-0; I don't think they'll get a bye if they finish 2-1, because they'll lose tiebreakers to UNT and FAU, the other likely 6-10 teams (assuming they each win a game).

Yep. The only way UAB can jump Tulane/ODU is if we all finish tied (which ODU could win out, making this a moot point). Right now ODU is in the drivers' seat, with 3 winnable games remaining and the head-to-head tiebreaker over Tulane. Unless Tulane loses out or UAB wins out, the likely finish in the middle of the league is:

6) ODU
7) Tulane
8) UAB
9) Charlotte

Now don't ask me what's going to happen at the top! But now that we're back to playing well, we have a better chance to help out our Miner and Golden Eagle friends.

IMO 6-9 is still up for grabs. Charlotte, ECU, Marshall and ODU all play each other. Here is UAB's and Tulane's remaining schedule:

UAB - @Rice, LTU and MTSU.
Tulane - FAU, @FIU and USM

If ECU wins the next 3 and UAB goes 1-2 then ECU has the tiebreaker.

I just don't see how ECU figures better than 8, even in that scenario. You'd need Tulane and ODU to lose out and somehow win the 4 way tiebreaker between UAB, ODU and Tulane, which I don't think you would. ECU will get a bye at 3-0, as per my post above, but probably at #8.

(02-24-2014 02:35 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 03:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 03:03 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 02:55 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 02:06 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  ECU owns the tiebreaker over UAB and still has a game left against ODU. UNT, FIU, UAB and FAU have tougher games left than ECU.

But one of UAB's games is against Rice, which will get them to 7 wins.
ODU and Tulane are reasonably close to having 6 and 7 locked - 1 win for each will do it.
ECU will probably get the bye and a good chance at #8 if they finish 3-0; I don't think they'll get a bye if they finish 2-1, because they'll lose tiebreakers to UNT and FAU, the other likely 6-10 teams (assuming they each win a game).

Yep. The only way UAB can jump Tulane/ODU is if we all finish tied (which ODU could win out, making this a moot point). Right now ODU is in the drivers' seat, with 3 winnable games remaining and the head-to-head tiebreaker over Tulane. Unless Tulane loses out or UAB wins out, the likely finish in the middle of the league is:

6) ODU
7) Tulane
8) UAB
9) Charlotte

Now don't ask me what's going to happen at the top! But now that we're back to playing well, we have a better chance to help out our Miner and Golden Eagle friends.

IMO 6-9 is still up for grabs. Charlotte, ECU, Marshall and ODU all play each other. Here is UAB's and Tulane's remaining schedule:

UAB - @Rice, LTU and MTSU.
Tulane - FAU, @FIU and USM

If ECU wins the next 3 and UAB goes 1-2 then ECU has the tiebreaker.

I just don't see how ECU figures better than 8, even in that scenario. You'd need Tulane and ODU to lose out and somehow win the 4 way tiebreaker between UAB, ODU and Tulane, which I don't think you would. ECU will get a bye at 3-0, as per my post above, but probably at #8.

It will be resolved in the next few days. I am pretty sure that the Charlotte players are going to play out of their skulls on Thursday night, so it won't matter anyway. Fwiw, I think that ODU might drop a couple of games, and Tulane (FIU and USM) and UAB (LTU and MTSU) are likely to drop a couple of their next few games, so we will see.

(02-23-2014 11:23 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  No way do they deserve 5, Niner... Richmond is 2-6 vs. top 50, and the RPI isn't enough without getting a tourney win. And if they do, St. Joe's is getting bumped.

In your opinion, but Palm has 6 A10 teams in his bracketology and Lunardi has 5.

We're going to get 1 and the A10 is going to get a minimum of five unless one of the top 6 teams goes winless from now until the end of the season.

(02-23-2014 11:12 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Dunno Fun...when your top 7 (a10) schools all are still +.500 in conference, and nobodies' RPI is below 60 among those top 7.

SLU (lock) , St.Joe's (likely lock at RPI39), UMass VCU and RIchmond (14, 25, 47 RPI respectively).

A10 deserves three...SLU, UMass, VCu. St. Joe's a likely choice (unless they meltdown in the last 2 weeks). Richmond needs help. So I can see them getting 4. Richmond could take away st. Joe's slot if they win the A10 tourney.

The A10 has 5 Top 50 wins. C-USA has 8. The A10 has 12 Top 100 wins. C-USA has 15. How does the A10 deserve five before C-USA deserves two?

A10 has an establishment bias even though I'd say A10 and CUSA are on about equal footing.

(02-24-2014 09:05 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 11:12 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Dunno Fun...when your top 7 (a10) schools all are still +.500 in conference, and nobodies' RPI is below 60 among those top 7.

SLU (lock) , St.Joe's (likely lock at RPI39), UMass VCU and RIchmond (14, 25, 47 RPI respectively).

A10 deserves three...SLU, UMass, VCu. St. Joe's a likely choice (unless they meltdown in the last 2 weeks). Richmond needs help. So I can see them getting 4. Richmond could take away st. Joe's slot if they win the A10 tourney.

The A10 has 5 Top 50 wins. C-USA has 8. The A10 has 12 Top 100 wins. C-USA has 15. How does the A10 deserve five before C-USA deserves two?

What are you looking at?

The A10 has 26 wins against the top 50....unless you only mean OOC. I didn't count it that way.

The A10 also has teams at the top that schedule better and don't lose to the bad teams they should beat.

(02-24-2014 09:18 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 09:05 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 11:12 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Dunno Fun...when your top 7 (a10) schools all are still +.500 in conference, and nobodies' RPI is below 60 among those top 7.

SLU (lock) , St.Joe's (likely lock at RPI39), UMass VCU and RIchmond (14, 25, 47 RPI respectively).

A10 deserves three...SLU, UMass, VCu. St. Joe's a likely choice (unless they meltdown in the last 2 weeks). Richmond needs help. So I can see them getting 4. Richmond could take away st. Joe's slot if they win the A10 tourney.

The A10 has 5 Top 50 wins. C-USA has 8. The A10 has 12 Top 100 wins. C-USA has 15. How does the A10 deserve five before C-USA deserves two?

What are you looking at?

The A10 has 26 wins against the top 50....unless you only mean OOC. I didn't count it that way.

Yeah. OOC. I'm not counting league games between teams in the Top 50 (Top 100) as those are a guaranteed win and a guaranteed loss. I'm sure the A10 has a lot more Top 50 losses than C-USA when counting league games.

(02-24-2014 09:19 PM)Niner National Wrote:  The A10 also has teams at the top that schedule better and don't lose to the bad teams they should beat.

But is that enough to warrant six before C-USA gets two?

Warren Nolan is the only bracketologist that I've seen who has the A10 with six who also gives C-USA two. I can't justify a sixth A10 team without first justifying a second C-USA team.

I think ODU wins Marshall and ECU. Both at home and definitely winnable. Very concerned with @Charlotte though. They're such a weird team, they will either do well or horrible, but they have it at home so I've got that marked at a L. That gets us to 9-7 conference and 15-16 overall. Not too bad all things considered.