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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 09:00 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
I did not listen to the game, but looking at the box score, I can't believe Western got 44 free throws and we only got 18? I just can't believe we would be called for two and a half more fouls than Western. That was the difference in the game. They got almost half of their points off of the free throws. Anyone see the game and have any comment about the discrepancy in the number of fouls called?

You forgot something! :mafia:We only shot 44% from the ft line while they shot they shot 80%!
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 09:07 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 08:12 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  Except RE had a miserable record. I have my qualms with Murphy, but at least we aren't the laughingstock of D1 basketball, like RE made us in football.

I might be the only person here that wasn't mad about yesterday. WMU is a good team playing strong basketball right now. It was gonna be tough to win there no matter what the result was on our floor. It was nice to see this team fight its way back into the game after it looked like we were about to be blown out.

If we win 3 of our last 4, I'll be ok going into the MAC tourney. We've underachieved, but at least we know we can give anyone in this league hell in the tournament, and will be a tough out.

The big detriment that we have this year compared to the recent past is how good the top of the MAC West has become.

In Murphy's first year he competed against a MAC West which was very weak and conference scheduled were 'unbalanced'. Wasn't it 10 division games and six crossovers?

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Good? Lmao!

We're a much, much better than years ago but it doesn't show in the record...
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Dear superfan,
I didn't forget the percentages. Even if Eastern had shot 80% that would have been another six points and we still would have lost the game. If you watched the game, what about the preponderance of fouls being called in Western's favor? They got 44 attempts to Eastern's 18.
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I'm curious about your teams mix of players. How many are Michigan high school recruits compared to your juco and transfer numbers ???? You can sometimes get a little to lopsided without a solid number of Freshman and Sophomores coming up through the high school ranks???
One last thought, I've seen Riley twice and can't get over how passive he can be at 7'0". At first glance he looks like a guy who could dominate the MAC. Whats up with this guy???
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
There's a whole thread on the number of transfers on EMU's roster on the WMU Hoops Page along with the typical Chip Dip EMU slams with no basis in facts.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 10:45 AM)broncojohnny Wrote:  I'm curious about your teams mix of players. How many are Michigan high school recruits compared to your juco and transfer numbers ???? You can sometimes get a little to lopsided without a solid number of Freshman and Sophomores coming up through the high school ranks???
One last thought, I've seen Riley twice and can't get over how passive he can be at 7'0". At first glance he looks like a guy who could dominate the MAC. Whats up with this guy???

we have two hs recruits that receive playing time - Raven Lee and JR Sims. the rest of our rotation players are transfers.

as for Riley, that's the million dollar question. when he plays hard (very rarely his first two years. more often this year), he is a beast. this complaint has followed him since at least high school.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

STATEGY WORKED. WHITTINGTON TOOK US TO THE CLEANERS WHILE OUR POST PLAYERS RILEY AND AJAYI COMBINED FOR A TOTAL OF -0- POINTS
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 09:56 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear superfan,
I didn't forget the percentages. Even if Eastern had shot 80% that would have been another six points and we still would have lost the game. If you watched the game, what about the p byreponderance of fouls being called in Western's favor? They got 44 attempts to Eastern's 18.

They WMU were driving to the basket taking shots most of fouls we got where floor fouls dribbling the ball. Good teams have no fear of Riley once he has 2 fouls on him he becomes very passive.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 11:38 AM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

STATEGY WORKED. WHITTINGTON TOOK US TO THE CLEANERS WHILE OUR POST PLAYERS RILEY AND AJAYI COMBINED FOR A TOTAL OF -0- POINTS

They never score anyway. That stat isn't a very big deal.

I thought Ajayi played well actually. He's much more active on the offensive glass than Riley is. We had several second chances because of Lekan. Very encouraging performance from him.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

Yep and yep.

I heard about Whittington being very sick. (I listened to part of the game on the MAC DN with the WMU crew. I couldn't listen to Chad and Sean on WEMU as in the 2nd half they were literally 10 seconds ahead of the video).

I agree completely that without Whittington the game would have been much different. Whittington is the best true center in the MAC.

As far as getting fouls on Riley a high school coach would know that.
Get Riley out of the game with 2 fouls in the first half and go to work. Murphy follows the coaches' rule for big men: Two first half fouls and you sit for the rest of the half. No coach wants his big man to have three fouls at the half.

Matter of fact, I'm surprised that more MAC coaches aren't trying harder to get Riley into foul trouble.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-24-2014 01:44 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:38 AM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

STATEGY WORKED. WHITTINGTON TOOK US TO THE CLEANERS WHILE OUR POST PLAYERS RILEY AND AJAYI COMBINED FOR A TOTAL OF -0- POINTS

They never score anyway. That stat isn't a very big deal.

I thought Ajayi played well actually. He's much more active on the offensive glass than Riley is. We had several second chances because of Lekan. Very encouraging performance from him.

NOW WITH 2 YRS LEFT OF ELIGIBILITY, IF SOMEONE CAN ONLY TEACH HIM SOME OFFENSIVE MOVES ETC. HARD TO PLAY SOMEONE WHO NEVER SCORES, THE OPPOSITION CAN PLAY 5 ON 4
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(02-24-2014 03:04 PM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 01:44 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:38 AM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

STATEGY WORKED. WHITTINGTON TOOK US TO THE CLEANERS WHILE OUR POST PLAYERS RILEY AND AJAYI COMBINED FOR A TOTAL OF -0- POINTS

They never score anyway. That stat isn't a very big deal.

I thought Ajayi played well actually. He's much more active on the offensive glass than Riley is. We had several second chances because of Lekan. Very encouraging performance from him.

NOW WITH 2 YRS LEFT OF ELIGIBILITY, IF SOMEONE CAN ONLY TEACH HIM SOME OFFENSIVE MOVES ETC. HARD TO PLAY SOMEONE WHO NEVER SCORES, THE OPPOSITION CAN PLAY 5 ON 4

I've been watching athletics for a lot of years and here is what I see:

Teams generally reflect the personnel and personnel is always evolving in college (obviously there are no 5 - 10 year veterans 03-lmfao). Teams lose valuable pieces each year.

This team reflects Riley's defense and the athleticism of the team overall, but not the size of the forwards (as someone mentioned).

Next year, I see our defensive eraser, Riley, graduated and a team less willing to try and win defensive struggles kind of the 'first to 50' (last year) or the 'first to 60' this year ilk.

I see Ajayi trying to neutralize the opponent's center, but not a great shot blocker and certainly not an offensive threat.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I think we'll see MORE out of Talley, Lee, Combs, Ward, and Price in terms of an offensive team. They should all benefit from this year.

These guys just might actually try to outscore opponents. 03-idea
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(02-24-2014 04:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 03:04 PM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 01:44 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:38 AM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  
(02-24-2014 11:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Just found out from Jeremy Rosenberg of Eagle Totem, that Coach Hawkins revealed at his press conference that Whittington of Western was so sick, that had the game been scheduled for Saturday, he, Whittington would not have played. What a difference that would have made.
Jeremy also confirmed that Western's coach, Hawkins, said the strategy was to drive to the basket to get as many fouls as possible, especially on Riley.

STATEGY WORKED. WHITTINGTON TOOK US TO THE CLEANERS WHILE OUR POST PLAYERS RILEY AND AJAYI COMBINED FOR A TOTAL OF -0- POINTSii

They never score anyway. That stat isn't a very big deal.

I thought Ajayi played well actually. He's much more active on the offensive glass than Riley is. We had several second chances because of Lekan. Very encouraging performance from him.

NOW WITH 2 YRS LEFT OF ELIGIBILITY, IF SOMEONE CAN ONLY TEACH HIM SOME OFFENSIVE MOVES ETC. HARD TO PLAY SOMEONE WHO NEVER SCORES, THE OPPOSITION CAN PLAY 5 ON 4

I've been watching athletics for a lot of years and here is what I see:

Teams generally reflect the personnel and personnel is always evolving in college (obviously there are no 5 - 10 year veterans 03-lmfao). Teams lose valuable pieces each year.

This team reflects Riley's defense and the athleticism of the team overall, but not the size of the forwards (as someone mentioned).

Next year, I see our defensive eraser, Riley, graduated and a team less willing to try and win defensive struggles kind of the 'first to 50' (last year) or the 'first to 60' this year ilk.

I see Ajayi trying to neutralize the opponent's center, but not a great shot blocker and certainly not an offensive threat.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I think we'll see MORE out of Talley, Lee, Combs, Ward, and Price in terms of an offensive team. They should all benefit from this year.

These guys just might actually try to outscore opponents. 03-idea

Try!03-lmfao
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I was really really impressed with your guards....Talley, Lee and Combs. They penetrated and ran the break at will. The only thing I didn't see them do is try to finish (with the exception of Lee in the first half). Multiple times in the second half, one of them would penetrate into the lane, and then peel back out to the 3 point line or dish it.

I was not impressed with Murphy. He has the horses to play with anyone in the MAC. Having a .500 record in MAC play is baffling to me. Ultimately with that much talent, it falls on the coach. Specifically discipline. I don't want it to seem like I am dogging EMU though. Like I said, the talent he has assembled is impressive.

That being said...EMU is probably the last team I want to face in Cleveland. Good luck the rest of the way fellas.
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(02-25-2014 09:11 AM)EA3 Wrote:  I was really really impressed with your guards....Talley, Lee and Combs. They penetrated and ran the break at will. The only thing I didn't see them do is try to finish (with the exception of Lee in the first half). Multiple times in the second half, one of them would penetrate into the lane, and then peel back out to the 3 point line or dish it.

I was not impressed with Murphy. He has the horses to play with anyone in the MAC. Having a .500 record in MAC play is baffling to me. Ultimately with that much talent, it falls on the coach. Specifically discipline. I don't want it to seem like I am dogging EMU though. Like I said, the talent he has assembled is impressive.

That being said...EMU is probably the last team I want to face in Cleveland. Good luck the rest of the way fellas.

It would be interesting to see Tom Izzo and our team.

I don't think it would be a match made in heaven.
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(02-25-2014 09:11 AM)EA3 Wrote:  I was really really impressed with your guards....Talley, Lee and Combs. They penetrated and ran the break at will. The only thing I didn't see them do is try to finish (with the exception of Lee in the first half). Multiple times in the second half, one of them would penetrate into the lane, and then peel back out to the 3 point line or dish it.

I was not impressed with Murphy. He has the horses to play with anyone in the MAC. Having a .500 record in MAC play is baffling to me. Ultimately with that much talent, it falls on the coach. Specifically discipline. I don't want it to seem like I am dogging EMU though. Like I said, the talent he has assembled is impressive.

That being said...EMU is probably the last team I want to face in Cleveland. Good luck the rest of the way fellas.

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

Good luck to your boys as well.
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RE: GameDay: @WMU (okay, tomorrow)
(02-25-2014 09:11 AM)EA3 Wrote:  I was not impressed with Murphy. He has the horses to play with anyone in the MAC. Having a .500 record in MAC play is baffling to me. Ultimately with that much talent, it falls on the coach.

Ding, ding, ding! 03-shhhh
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