The post need to be more consistant and play tougher.... if you review the losses the rebounding and or scoring from the post was inept.

(02-17-2014 05:36 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  The post need to be more consistant and play tougher.... if you review the losses the rebounding and or scoring from the post was inept.

We outrebounded UConn by 10. I think Shaq played very well considering he was double teamed every time he got a pass in the post. Pellom's offensive game is limited but he played well on defense, especially when switching to guards on screens. At one point, he forced a held ball from Napier when he switched out on him. Austin had 9 points on 4 of 5 from the field, but he was having the same low post issues as Shaq. Collapsing defenders didn't really let him get off.

(02-17-2014 08:49 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 05:36 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  The post need to be more consistant and play tougher.... if you review the losses the rebounding and or scoring from the post was inept.

We outrebounded UConn by 10. I think Shaq played very well considering he was double teamed every time he got a pass in the post. Pellom's offensive game is limited but he played well on defense, especially when switching to guards on screens. At one point, he forced a held ball from Napier when he switched out on him. Austin had 9 points on 4 of 5 from the field, but he was having the same low post issues as Shaq. Collapsing defenders didn't really let him get off.

It is remarkable that we stayed in the game, especially in the 1st half.

2 Fouls
16:49 Geron
12:21 Crawford
06:08 Dixon

3 Fouls
17:33 Dixon
15:11 Crawford
14:49 Geron
09:31 JJ

4 Fouls
7:19 Dixon
0:52 Geron

Can't remember another game in which our 4 senior guards were all in such collective foul trouble. Every single one.

(02-17-2014 09:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Can't remember another game in which our 4 senior guards were all in such collective foul trouble. Every single one.

As long as JJ isn't in foul trouble we can probably figure out a way to keep 1 out of the other 3 on the floor. JJ didn't have a foul in the first half and promptly got called for 2 fouls in 9 seconds at the start of the 2nd half.

(02-17-2014 10:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 09:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Can't remember another game in which our 4 senior guards were all in such collective foul trouble. Every single one.

As long as JJ isn't in foul trouble we can probably figure out a way to keep 1 out of the other 3 on the floor. JJ didn't have a foul in the first half and promptly got called for 2 fouls in 9 seconds at the start of the 2nd half.

That still smells.

Shaq is 250 lbs or better and got knocked down or off his block three or four times Saturday. How does that happen?

It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

(02-17-2014 11:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

Assistant Robert Kirby admitted this morning on 56am that many of the tiger turnovers were a result of non-calls committed by UConns.

(02-17-2014 11:23 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

Assistant Robert Kirby admitted this morning on 56am that many of the tiger turnovers were a result of non-calls committed by UConns.

Many were, not all though. There were several, especially early game, that were just boneheaded unforced TOs.

(02-17-2014 11:28 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:23 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

Assistant Robert Kirby admitted this morning on 56am that many of the tiger turnovers were a result of non-calls committed by UConns.

Many were, not all though. There were several, especially early game, that were just boneheaded unforced TOs.

He said that the team committed turnovers early on but then settled down but got bite by some tough calls. Early turnovers that were real had nothing to do with the outcome of the game because the tigers came backk , it was the fake ones late in the game that did the team in

(02-17-2014 11:28 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:23 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

Assistant Robert Kirby admitted this morning on 56am that many of the tiger turnovers were a result of non-calls committed by UConns.

Many were, not all though. There were several, especially early game, that were just boneheaded unforced TOs.

A lot of the miserables point out a missed rebound at the end or a turnover or a bad shot attempt. Every team; even the good teams makes dozens of mistakes every game. We turned the ball over 4 times in a row in the first half. The Pellom and Crawford turnovers were unforced; it happens.

Shaq had 2 turnovers that were a result of clear fouls. Joe Jackson and Shaq had turnovers on held balls where they clearly had possession of the ball and were yelling for a timeout. Geron had 3 fouls that were not fouls and got fouled on 2 drives where multiple UConn players hacked at the ball as he was driving.

A 5 turnover swing gets us from 18-6 to 12-12; which is about right. A 5 foul swing gets us from 23-12 to 18-17; which is about right for how the game was played.

Hoopdreams mentioned that all we had to do was make 1 play and we would have won; no excuses...which is pathetic. The sad reality is that all we needed was for the refs to not screw us on the last 2 plays of the game. If they don't make the completely bull**** call on Geron, we are still up 1; and if they don't miss the obvious foul when Shaq is shooting, we win the game.

We could have actually gotten raped the whole game, and would have still won if the refs didn't rape us intil the very last second.

Well, the early unforced TOs let UConn come back from an 8 pt hole.

But Kirby's rendition is what I saw as well. Early TOs before we got settled, then TOs from the refs letting UConn play (aside from the two jumped passes).

(02-17-2014 11:42 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Well, the early unforced TOs let UConn come back from an 8 pt hole.

But Kirby's rendition is what I saw as well. Early TOs before we got settled, then TOs from the refs letting UConn play (aside from the two jumped passes).

If this doesn't make you sick...

UConn had 3 turnovers in the first 4:21 of the game. After 13 minutes they had 5 turnovers. They got their 6th and final turnover 45 seconds into the 2nd half.

From the 7 minute mark of the 1st half, to the end of the game; UConn had 1 turnover. That's 1 turnover in the last 38 minutes of game time. UConn played the last 24:15 of the game without a single turnover.

That is impossible.

"Those who are willing to accept injustice, must be willing to expect injustice." No way this game was called fairly.

(02-17-2014 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:42 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Well, the early unforced TOs let UConn come back from an 8 pt hole.

But Kirby's rendition is what I saw as well. Early TOs before we got settled, then TOs from the refs letting UConn play (aside from the two jumped passes).

If this doesn't make you sick...

UConn had 3 turnovers in the first 4:21 of the game. After 13 minutes they had 5 turnovers. They got their 6th and final turnover 45 seconds into the 2nd half.

From the 7 minute mark of the 1st half, to the end of the game; UConn had 1 turnover. That's 1 turnover in the last 38 minutes of game time. UConn played the last 24:15 of the game without a single turnover.

That is impossible.

From that perspective it look more like a fixed game. Not saying it was but it looks like it

(02-17-2014 11:28 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:23 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:37 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It smells that in 45 minutes of play both Napier and Boatright only got 1 foul apiece. That's why anyone dismissing the officiating are just trolling

You're lucky to find anyone on this board that won't say that the calls were suspect at best.

I just don't think it's productive to hang the entire loss on the refs, I guarantee that's not what the coaches are doing.

That game was within our grasp and we could've won despite the refs.

Assistant Robert Kirby admitted this morning on 56am that many of the tiger turnovers were a result of non-calls committed by UConns.

Many were, not all though. There were several, especially early game, that were just boneheaded unforced TOs.

While it is true our kids made some mistakes- as all kid on all good teams do- and it is true that our kids could have won in spite of the officiating...you are bordering on this style of point:

Memphis down 5- rallies, overcomes and takes 2 point lead. Overcame referees and the other players. Then they make a 3, after their player stepped out of bounds. Ok- just overcome that. Our kids then get another basket. Take the lead- overcame the bad call. Then the same thing happens again- so Memphis falls behind. Then Memphis is down 1. Joe Jackson then gets kicked i the balls- literally, and turns it over. No call. Memphis falls down by 3. Memphis then scores after another ball kicking with no call. Still down 1. Other team then runs down court- literally, without dribbling- no travel call- they score again. Memphis sill overcomes gets a game tying 3. Then Memphis scores again takes a two point lead. Then the other team throws the ball out of bounds after Memphis pressure. But the refs say Memphis touched the ball in spite of the nearest Tiger being 27 feet away. Other team then runs into Tiger defender who never moves. Of course a block is called. So they make a few free throws. Take the lead. Memphis then comes back and makes a shot to get the lead- yes after another ball kicking and no and one free throw.

Then the other team misses a shot, gets the rebound and runs 7 steps with the ball before making a layup to get a 1 point lead with 1 second left.

Some would then argue Memphis still had their chances.

The hideous refereeing in the UConn game really made it tougher to win...and was the worst I have seen in quite some time.

Signed,

A Memphis team that was not settling for a lot of threes and was taking the ball to the rack and was faster than the other team and shot 6 free throws in regulation while the opponents playing less aggressively shot 24. 36 for the game against Memphis' 9.

Still on your knees driveling I see..... just remember to come up for some air.....

(02-15-2014 05:21 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Our guys played well for most of the game. I know a bunch of you guys will complain that the refs cost us this game, but our unforced TOs were a really big factor.

That being said, I believe our team outplayed UConn today and due to some bad bounces of the ball (and maybe a bad call or two, that can go either way in a tight game) we get the L instead of the W. I expected a loss today, but wanted a good, competitive game to show that the first UConn game was an aberration. I got what I hoped for; this was an amazing game and one of the best Memphis games of the season.

EDIT: Hard to say for sure, but if this one was played at the Forum, it could've easily been a double digit win for us. A bit frustrating.

The 4 Kingz had a great game, and to everyone's pleasure they never once played on the court at the same time. Each one of them had good games.

We outrebounded them by double digits. Austin, Pellom and Shaq played well, Shaq was often getting double or triple teamed but he kept his head in the game (a nice change from the SMU game).

Iverson, I dunno, I just don't think he's ready to be effective at this level yet.

Nick King, I love his tencity on offense and on the boards, but he'll never have the coachs' trust if he can't play better perimeter defense than he did tonight. I thought he was coming along, but while he was at on the court he let Niels Giffey get free for an open 3 (thank god he airballed it, but that's a guy you can easily take out of the game). Then, he didn't switch on screen and gave up a Napier three. The staff let him play through the mistake, but he never saw the court again after he was subbed out. Against a team like UConn, we've got to be able to switch 1 through 4, and King has to focus a lot more on the defensive end to be effective. Against a team with a traditional 4, King can get way more burn.

Gotta make sure that we don't drop a bad one to Rutgers or Houston, and then we can focus on taking two wins from Louisville, Cincy and SMU.

Go Tigers.

(02-17-2014 06:34 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  Still on your knees driveling I see..... just remember to come up for some air.....

Driveling?? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Congrats on the win on Saturday, btw.