(02-14-2014 10:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 10:30 PM)George Kaplan Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 02:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Really happy for Shaq. If we have someone to get the ball out there, he could be a beast.

I can't help but wonder what your feelings were when he committed and signed. I doubt you forecasted him to be a beast.

I don't think anyone on here was unhappy with gaining a commitment from the state POY in D3, who just happened to set the individual total yardage record in a state championship game.

I can't help to wond.... Wut?

Thank you, B-Man. I would probably not have been as gentle.

shaq leaving was the worst decision he could have made. he was tailor made if anyone was for uc. this is great news

(02-14-2014 11:18 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 10:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 10:30 PM)George Kaplan Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 02:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Really happy for Shaq. If we have someone to get the ball out there, he could be a beast.

I can't help but wonder what your feelings were when he committed and signed. I doubt you forecasted him to be a beast.

I don't think anyone on here was unhappy with gaining a commitment from the state POY in D3, who just happened to set the individual total yardage record in a state championship game.

I can't help to wond.... Wut?

Thank you, B-Man. I would probably not have been as gentle.

Yikes! That was a close call. Thanks from me also, B-Man, for saving my skin. Apparently I almost got the same treatment from our skeptical friend that the typical UC football recruit gets -- and which the prolific but tiny Shaq Washington surely got upon choosing UC over "unimpressive offers."

And that was the point of my post. All of us who love the Bearcats and follow recruiting want things to go the best they can in spite of the challenges and we tend to get cranky when they don't. But Tony, it just gets tiring to have you bang and bang and bang on the kids who the coaches identify as the best recruits they can get, who want to play here, and who quite often develop quite nicely. It would be nice to revisit the 2014 recruiting thread in a few years to see how your negative reaction to most of the new class turns out. Some will be spot on, yet many who you will cheer for will prove you wrong. I'm sure you derive a lot of happiness during the fall as you watch the success of a lot of kids that you had previously been dejected about and vehemently complained about when they committed to UC. Cynicism is okay in small doses, but it seems like the coaching staffs that have resurrected UC football deserve the benefit of the doubt considering their track record. But in most cases, you are unwilling to give it, believing apparently that you know much more than they can possibly know.

Healthy debate is fine, but I don't know why you have to be so negative so much of the time on this topic. Are you like this in other facets of your life -- showing no faith in others despite the results they've shown over time? If so, why? Do you feel this incessant piling on and relentless criticism is something this board needs -- a void only you can fill? Will you be this way as we monitor the whole 2015 recruiting process? Have you talked with Coach Tuberville and Mike Waugh to let them know of their shortcomings and your personal disappointment? I know Coach Tuberville believes a person never stop learning - even a coach of his experience and stature - and if there are things he doesn't know or understand, he'd probably be grateful to know what you know, since the Bearcats' success is the common shared goal.

Dude. Relax.

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:39 PM)Mopper Wrote:  Having Shaq back for two more seasons is huge. He was the most consistent player on offense for large stretches of the season. Just need to get someone to step up and fill the role of slot receiver number 2, Tshumbi Johnson perhaps

Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

(02-15-2014 10:30 AM)Mopper Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:39 PM)Mopper Wrote:  Having Shaq back for two more seasons is huge. He was the most consistent player on offense for large stretches of the season. Just need to get someone to step up and fill the role of slot receiver number 2, Tshumbi Johnson perhaps

Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

Morrison seems like he fits the bill. I wasn't sure that he was a flanker early on in the season, seems more like a slot to me. What do you think?

Naate Coles may also be an option.

Abernathy? I'd love to see some of those bubble screens Pike used to throw to Gilyard. RDAIV has the size (sneaky) and speed to run those. Throw him in the slot and get him the ball quick and see what he can do, instead of running him up the middle or trying to beat LBs around the edge.

Our Receivers will be stacked next year. If Gunner lives up to the hype, watch out, the air raid will be in full effect.

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(02-16-2014 08:29 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  Abernathy? I'd love to see some of those bubble screens Pike used to throw to Gilyard. RDAIV has the size (sneaky) and speed to run those. Throw him in the slot and get him the ball quick and see what he can do, instead of running him up the middle or trying to beat LBs around the edge.

Many of us have been calling for that for two years now, but its obviously not going to happen. Wish it would, he seems tailor-made for the slot.

(02-16-2014 06:42 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Our Receivers will be stacked next year. If Gunner lives up to the hype, watch out, the air raid will be in full effect.

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Receiver will be great, and we're going to see growth and maturity at other positions as well. Frankly, it looks like a better team except for the giant question mark at QB. There's no telling how that will work out. We could be a 6 win team or a 10 win team based on that alone.

(02-17-2014 09:29 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 06:42 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Our Receivers will be stacked next year. If Gunner lives up to the hype, watch out, the air raid will be in full effect.

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Receiver will be great, and we're going to see growth and maturity at other positions as well. Frankly, it looks like a better team except for the giant question mark at QB. There's no telling how that will work out. We could be a 6 win team or a 10 win team based on that alone.

Big question mark is an understatement. We could very well end up missing Brendon Kay or we could be watching one of the best QBs in the Country.

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(02-17-2014 09:29 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 06:42 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Our Receivers will be stacked next year. If Gunner lives up to the hype, watch out, the air raid will be in full effect.

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Receiver will be great, and we're going to see growth and maturity at other positions as well. Frankly, it looks like a better team except for the giant question mark at QB. There's no telling how that will work out. We could be a 6 win team or a 10 win team based on that alone.

Don't forget about the OL. We will be losing Bujnoch and Longo who were very important stalwarts up front (also Andre Curteon who was the virtual sixth man). We will need for guys like Kevin Schloemer and Cory Keebler to step it up next year on an everyday basis. Once you get past the first group, there is little in terms of experienced depth. Guys like Justin Murray, Ryan Leahy, Tyreek Burwell and Garrett Campbell, etc. will be the second unit and they have little to no game experience.

Even if Gunner Kiel is the second coming of Greg Cook, he won't be able to get the ball to this receiving corps if he is on his back half the game.

(02-15-2014 10:30 AM)Mopper Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:39 PM)Mopper Wrote:  Having Shaq back for two more seasons is huge. He was the most consistent player on offense for large stretches of the season. Just need to get someone to step up and fill the role of slot receiver number 2, Tshumbi Johnson perhaps

Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

Do people see Shakim Alonzo contributing at all? Is he still here?

(02-17-2014 10:19 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 10:30 AM)Mopper Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:39 PM)Mopper Wrote:  Having Shaq back for two more seasons is huge. He was the most consistent player on offense for large stretches of the season. Just need to get someone to step up and fill the role of slot receiver number 2, Tshumbi Johnson perhaps

Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

Do people see Shakim Alonzo contributing at all? Is he still here?

My understanding is that he is being moved back to TE.

(02-17-2014 11:25 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:19 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 10:30 AM)Mopper Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:39 PM)Mopper Wrote:  Having Shaq back for two more seasons is huge. He was the most consistent player on offense for large stretches of the season. Just need to get someone to step up and fill the role of slot receiver number 2, Tshumbi Johnson perhaps

Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

Do people see Shakim Alonzo contributing at all? Is he still here?

My understanding is that he is being moved back to TE.

That may not be bad at all. With Dowdy, Johnson and Alonzo we have pretty good size and hands at the TE position.

(02-17-2014 11:51 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 11:25 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 10:19 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  

(02-15-2014 10:30 AM)Mopper Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 09:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Our top 4 receivers will be McKay, Moore, Washington, and Chisum.

Chisum is going to have to unseat Moore or McKay to get major reps at one of the outside receiver spots, and I am not entirely sure that happens. UC needs someone besides Shaq to work between the hashes in the intermediate area of the field for the offense to work effectively, that's not Chisum's skill set so it will be someone else

Do people see Shakim Alonzo contributing at all? Is he still here?

My understanding is that he is being moved back to TE.

That may not be bad at all. With Dowdy, Johnson and Alonzo we have pretty good size and hands at the TE position.

With how many times he's been moved back and forth, I'm not sure how much of an impact he'll be able to make this year. I would look for Dowdy and Cogswell to make big jumps this year. Dowdy has the look of a star from most of what I've seen. He is more of a split end than an inline blocker, but his athleticism and hands are phenomenal.