(02-16-2014 10:10 AM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  I think when IU went through the NCAA violations, Tom Crean was right guy at the right time. Since then Crean has recruited well. Hoosier Nation truly believed last years team was a championship caliber team. He had a week to figure out how to attack the Syracuse 2-3 zone but we looked terrible against them. This year our team looks out of control, bad defense and has struggled with rebounding. The clock management in close games has been questionable. I attended the game at Purdue and heard IU fans booing him. I truly think that the seat is starting to get warm for Coach Crean.

That game against Purdue was bad...

I haven't quite decided yet how I feel about it. They won the Big Ten last year (on Michigan's court no less).

Bob Knight had a bad year with Alford before coming back and winning it all the next year.

great recruiter

horrible Xs & Os guy

Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

(02-16-2014 11:39 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

I would have to respectfully disagree that last years team wasn't as good as everyone thought. The BIG last year was as good at the top since the late 80's and early 90's. Indiana had two lottery picks, a dead eye 3 points shooter a 6'9" power forward that could hurt you inside or from behind arc, and a dual threat at the small forward spot. With that said I think with a week to prepare for Syracuse, we should have played better against their zone. Yes this year we are young but very undisciplined.

(02-17-2014 03:46 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:39 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

I would have to respectfully disagree that last years team wasn't as good as everyone thought. The BIG last year was as good at the top since the late 80's and early 90's. Indiana had two lottery picks, a dead eye 3 points shooter a 6'9" power forward that could hurt you inside or from behind arc, and a dual threat at the small forward spot. With that said I think with a week to prepare for Syracuse, we should have played better against their zone. Yes this year we are young but very undisciplined.

Yeah the talent was there. But how much were they were really tested in the non-con? When you look at other schools in the Big Ten, many of those that usually make deep runs (i.e. Michigan State) usually test themselves quite a bit out of conference.

And it's funny you bring up young because one of the sports radio guys in Indy was talking on twitter today about youth not being an excuse to use for this team anymore. And to be honest, he's probably a little right. If there's any Big Ten team this season that can use youth as an excuse, it's Illinois. Until their recent lineup changes, their entire bench was freshman (at least in terms of guys that were actually getting minutes).

(02-17-2014 05:37 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 03:46 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:39 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

I would have to respectfully disagree that last years team wasn't as good as everyone thought. The BIG last year was as good at the top since the late 80's and early 90's. Indiana had two lottery picks, a dead eye 3 points shooter a 6'9" power forward that could hurt you inside or from behind arc, and a dual threat at the small forward spot. With that said I think with a week to prepare for Syracuse, we should have played better against their zone. Yes this year we are young but very undisciplined.

Yeah the talent was there. But how much were they were really tested in the non-con? When you look at other schools in the Big Ten, many of those that usually make deep runs (i.e. Michigan State) usually test themselves quite a bit out of conference.

And it's funny you bring up young because one of the sports radio guys in Indy was talking on twitter today about youth not being an excuse to use for this team anymore. And to be honest, he's probably a little right. If there's any Big Ten team this season that can use youth as an excuse, it's Illinois. Until their recent lineup changes, their entire bench was freshman (at least in terms of guys that were actually getting minutes).

I agree our non-conference schedule could have been better last year. I think it was a product of the sanction area we had to endure. We have some shooters coming in next year. Crean will have to show improvement next year or seat will get hot.

(02-18-2014 12:01 AM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 05:37 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 03:46 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:39 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

I would have to respectfully disagree that last years team wasn't as good as everyone thought. The BIG last year was as good at the top since the late 80's and early 90's. Indiana had two lottery picks, a dead eye 3 points shooter a 6'9" power forward that could hurt you inside or from behind arc, and a dual threat at the small forward spot. With that said I think with a week to prepare for Syracuse, we should have played better against their zone. Yes this year we are young but very undisciplined.

Yeah the talent was there. But how much were they were really tested in the non-con? When you look at other schools in the Big Ten, many of those that usually make deep runs (i.e. Michigan State) usually test themselves quite a bit out of conference.

And it's funny you bring up young because one of the sports radio guys in Indy was talking on twitter today about youth not being an excuse to use for this team anymore. And to be honest, he's probably a little right. If there's any Big Ten team this season that can use youth as an excuse, it's Illinois. Until their recent lineup changes, their entire bench was freshman (at least in terms of guys that were actually getting minutes).

I agree our non-conference schedule could have been better last year. I think it was a product of the sanction area we had to endure. We have some shooters coming in next year. Crean will have to show improvement next year or seat will get hot.

I'm confused. What do sanctions have to do with who you schedule?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...ties_N.htm

Coaching change, AD change, self-imposed sanctions, etc.

I'm sure it had some impact on OOC scheduling.

(02-18-2014 05:36 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2014 12:01 AM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 05:37 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2014 03:46 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:39 PM)Panthergrad11 Wrote:  Couldn't happen to a nicer fanbase. Seriously, they lost 4 1000 point scorers and they expected to be as good as last year?

And that team last year was not as great a team as everyone would like to think. For one thing, they didn't play a true road game (they had 3 non-con games away from home but they were all neutral site games in Brooklyn and Indy) until their conference opener at Iowa. How can a team be tested if they don't have to go into a truly hostile environment in the non-conference season?

I would have to respectfully disagree that last years team wasn't as good as everyone thought. The BIG last year was as good at the top since the late 80's and early 90's. Indiana had two lottery picks, a dead eye 3 points shooter a 6'9" power forward that could hurt you inside or from behind arc, and a dual threat at the small forward spot. With that said I think with a week to prepare for Syracuse, we should have played better against their zone. Yes this year we are young but very undisciplined.

Yeah the talent was there. But how much were they were really tested in the non-con? When you look at other schools in the Big Ten, many of those that usually make deep runs (i.e. Michigan State) usually test themselves quite a bit out of conference.

And it's funny you bring up young because one of the sports radio guys in Indy was talking on twitter today about youth not being an excuse to use for this team anymore. And to be honest, he's probably a little right. If there's any Big Ten team this season that can use youth as an excuse, it's Illinois. Until their recent lineup changes, their entire bench was freshman (at least in terms of guys that were actually getting minutes).

I agree our non-conference schedule could have been better last year. I think it was a product of the sanction area we had to endure. We have some shooters coming in next year. Crean will have to show improvement next year or seat will get hot.

I'm confused. What do sanctions have to do with who you schedule?

Five years ago we were at ground zero and they probably didn't think we could put a team like that together that quick. So they padded OOC schedule.

Ah. I thought it was just football where they scheduled schools that far ahead. Didn't realize they did it in basketball too.

They Just need to get off of the injury trail. Even the talented team last season played hurt. Also while here I really think it would benefit IU to open up communication with both UK and UL to play at least a semi annual with each school. Indiana has a proven record playing those schools as does Tom Crean. It would reinvigorate the Fan base. The OOC schedule needs this to happen as does the Bases for Louisville and Kentucky need this to happen. And Soon.

(02-20-2014 01:17 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  They Just need to get off of the injury trail. Even the talented team last season played hurt. Also while here I really think it would benefit IU to open up communication with both UK and UL to play at least a semi annual with each school. Indiana has a proven record playing those schools as does Tom Crean. It would reinvigorate the Fan base. The OOC schedule needs this to happen as does the Bases for Louisville and Kentucky need this to happen. And Soon.

Yes, I would love to have both on schedule on a yearly basis.

I hope Indiana holds onto Crean. He is so easy to hate, and he provides constant entertainment. Remember this jewel from a few seasons ago?

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/tom-crean-is-creepy/