(02-16-2014 10:40 AM)Bluebeard Wrote:  "1-4 vs the AAC's top bb teams"

And we get all of this for the super low bargain basement price of 2.65 million dollars per year!

are you hurtin for money or something. i mean do you need a loan. you seem to be upsetz with the amount pastner makes. let us know, maybe we can help ease the pain. i know the CA is not making much money but dayum let it go.

(02-16-2014 09:36 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:57 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  If we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we are an 8 seed.

No way, Jose.

Yes we were hosed yesterday. But it's a fact if we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we'll be an 8 or worse. Conference tourneys haven't played that much of a roll in seeding lately. Selection committee members have stated this. Their brackets are mostly filled out and seeding mostly complete before championship weekend. They just simply take some out of their brackets and move some in based off of tourney upsets....we have a 4 or 5 seed in our grasp, but we gotta win out in regular season now...

(02-16-2014 01:51 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 09:36 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:57 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  If we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we are an 8 seed.

No way, Jose.

Yes we were hosed yesterday. But it's a fact if we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we'll be an 8 or worse. Conference tourneys haven't played that much of a roll in seeding lately. Selection committee members have stated this. Their brackets are mostly filled out and seeding mostly complete before championship weekend. They just simply take some out of their brackets and move some in based off of tourney upsets....we have a 4 or 5 seed in our grasp, but we gotta win out in regular season now...

Quote:Conference tourneys haven't played that much of a roll in seeding lately

Classic...awesome. Keep up the good work.

Completely not true.

IF we lose one of the next 3 games, we will be in serious danger of an 8 seed or worse. As long as we take care of business in the next 3, and at least beat SMU, followed by one win against one of the top 5 in the AAC tourney, we should get at least a 7 seed.

If we win out the regular season with the exception of ONE game (either Louisville or Cincy), and at least win one AAC tourney game, we will 100% be a 7 seed or higher, and probably a 6. Make it to the AAC title game and its 100% 6 or higher, and probably a 5

(02-16-2014 02:40 PM)alcalde Wrote:  Completely not true.

IF we lose one of the next 3 games, we will be in serious danger of an 8 seed or worse. As long as we take care of business in the next 3, and at least beat SMU, followed by one win against one of the top 5 in the AAC tourney, we should get at least a 7 seed.

If we win out the regular season with the exception of ONE game (either Louisville or Cincy), and at least win one AAC tourney game, we will 100% be a 7 seed or higher, and probably a 6. Make it to the AAC title game and its 100% 6 or higher, and probably a 5

I hope you are right. Maybe the tigers win out & this is all moot.

My point is we don't have to win out. You mentioned in an earlier post having to sweep the final 3 big games, and that isn't true. A reasonable prediction would be that we lose one more regular season game, and one in the AAC tourney. If that happens, and the AAC tourney game isn't the first round game, then I can state with 99.9% confidence we will be a 6 seed or higher. 7 would be the absolute lowest given that scenario.

(02-16-2014 12:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 10:40 AM)Bluebeard Wrote:  "1-4 vs the AAC's top bb teams"

And we get all of this for the super low bargain basement price of 2.65 million dollars per year!

are you hurtin for money or something. i mean do you need a loan. you seem to be upsetz with the amount pastner makes. let us know, maybe we can help ease the pain. i know the CA is not making much money but dayum let it go.

Yeah, what's the obsession some of these people have with how much he's paid? It's not like they're paying it, so what's the deal? If the people paying the bill aren't complaining why should somebody who has nothing to do with it?

(02-16-2014 12:57 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  If we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we are an 8 seed.

Ha. Wanna bet?

I still think the Tigers and JP are in a feeling out process when it comes to playing a bunch of tough games in conference. Look at the other 4 teams and their coaches at the top of the league:

Lou- players have BE experience, Pitino is a HOF coach w/ 2 natl champs

UConn- players and Ollie have BE exp, they also have the best player in the league

Cincy- a bunch of SR players and Cronin been thru the BE wars

SMU- nothing in bball that Larry Brown hasn't done. Team doesn't have the exp of playing in a tough league and aren't used to being a "show up" game for lesser teams in the league. May cost them a game (like today), but LB offsets some of that.

Not down or our team at all from yesterday. We still have the least experienced coach of the top 5 teams when it comes to preparing a team for high level games night after night. Yet, we were within 4 of UCONN here and Joe missed a gimme with under 1 minute left, down 5 to Cincy here with under 8, and the highway robbery yesterday. Just didn't make some plays down the stretch. Looking at the big picture, yesterday's loss probably prepared us more for March than beating Marshall or Rice or UAB by 20.

This is still going to be a competitive multiple bid league for the next few seasons as long as Cincy and UConn stick around. Memphis, Temple, and SMU will form a solid top half with those 2. Hopefully, the bottom dwellers get it together. I'm looking forward to a hostile rivalry with UConn myself.

(02-16-2014 08:13 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  There is a lot of basketball to be played.

Yesterday's game could be an indicator of good things to come for the Tigers.

- After the tough L, the Tigers will not be complacent nor have the hangover after a big W effect.
- Many positives for the Tigers in the game were evident. We looked more cohesive as a team, tough D (many of shabazz's shots were well defended), and our guards hit some 3s. Joe did not hit any 3s but he scored 24 pts with 7 assists

Hope springs eternal, but at some point you have to consider the possibility that where we are may be a good indicator of where we belong. I don't really know what you mean by your second sentence, but we should've already had a bad taste in our mouths from losing to them at home when we were ranked 17th and they were unranked, so I'm not sure what a second loss gained for us.

There will always be issues unrelated to performance on the court that you can point to as reasons for a game going a particular way, but I'm not sure what you can do about most of those -- like refereeing. The things we CAN work on are, to me, more important. We need to work on defending picks, and we need to work on drawing contact in the paint and getting to the line -- guards and post players -- and, of course, we need to work on making the free throws when we get there. I thought we had been doing a great job of protecting the ball lately, as compared to earlier in the season, but we didn't in that game. And as much as Dixon helps sometimes on the offensive end, he hurts as much on the defensive end. I can't count the number of times his man got by him causing points for them, fouls for us, or both.

UConn went to the well with Daniels the first game, and he killed us. We defended him well this time around, so they went with what we gave them this time -- their guards. They're good -- maybe the best in the league -- but if we can't play better D on them than that, we don't have a very rosy outlook for either tournament. We've got a bunch of players who are playing their last games as collegiate athletes. It's pretty much up to them to make or break this season. Still time, but it's running out fast.

(02-16-2014 05:57 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 08:13 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  There is a lot of basketball to be played.

Yesterday's game could be an indicator of good things to come for the Tigers.

- After the tough L, the Tigers will not be complacent nor have the hangover after a big W effect.
- Many positives for the Tigers in the game were evident. We looked more cohesive as a team, tough D (many of shabazz's shots were well defended), and our guards hit some 3s. Joe did not hit any 3s but he scored 24 pts with 7 assists

Hope springs eternal, but at some point you have to consider the possibility that where we are may be a good indicator of where we belong. I don't really know what you mean by your second sentence, but we should've already had a bad taste in our mouths from losing to them at home when we were ranked 17th and they were unranked, so I'm not sure what a second loss gained for us.

There will always be issues unrelated to performance on the court that you can point to as reasons for a game going a particular way, but I'm not sure what you can do about most of those -- like refereeing. The things we CAN work on are, to me, more important. We need to work on defending picks, and we need to work on drawing contact in the paint and getting to the line -- guards and post players -- and, of course, we need to work on making the free throws when we get there. I thought we had been doing a great job of protecting the ball lately, as compared to earlier in the season, but we didn't in that game. And as much as Dixon helps sometimes on the offensive end, he hurts as much on the defensive end. I can't count the number of times his man got by him causing points for them, fouls for us, or both.

UConn went to the well with Daniels the first game, and he killed us. We defended him well this time around, so they went with what we gave them this time -- their guards. They're good -- maybe the best in the league -- but if we can't play better D on them than that, we don't have a very rosy outlook for either tournament. We've got a bunch of players who are playing their last games as collegiate athletes. It's pretty much up to them to make or break this season. Still time, but it's running out fast.

The guys weren't perfect on the floor but no team even Syracuse, who is the best, is perfect every time on every defensive or offensive possession. However the tigers would have beaten a lot of teams in the top 25 yesterday with their play but the non calls (like a guy out of bounds that turned into a 3 pointer) and things out of their control heavily influenced this individual game

I don't know what will happen with the rest of the season but there are 3 games left against what have turned out to be the top bb teams. I'd think we'd need to win 2 of the 3 and then at least get to the AAC tourney final to get the 5 seed we all want.

(02-16-2014 01:51 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 09:36 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:57 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  If we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we are an 8 seed.

No way, Jose.

But it's a fact if we don't sweep smu, Ville & Cincy we'll be an 8 or worse.

Absolutely not. Maybe if we lose two of three we're an 8.

I think we'll win two of those games, and all three are winnable. If we win two of three, and have a good showing in the conference tourney, it's a 5 seed or possibly better.

RE: 1-4 vs the AAC's top bb teams

I don't know what will happen with the rest of the season but there are 3 games left against what have turned out to be the top bb teams. I'd think we'd need to win 2 of the 3 and then at least get to the AAC tourney final to get the 5 seed we all want.

It's not as easy as it looks.

A very tall order indeed, but doable. However we cannot forget the other lesser games we have to win also.

(02-16-2014 08:33 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I don't know what will happen with the rest of the season but there are 3 games left against what have turned out to be the top bb teams. I'd think we'd need to win 2 of the 3 and then at least get to the AAC tourney final to get the 5 seed we all want.

Personally, I do NOT want a 5 seed. I want a 3 (unlikely) or a 6.

(02-17-2014 11:57 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 08:33 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I don't know what will happen with the rest of the season but there are 3 games left against what have turned out to be the top bb teams. I'd think we'd need to win 2 of the 3 and then at least get to the AAC tourney final to get the 5 seed we all want.

Personally, I do NOT want a 5 seed. I want a 3 (unlikely) or a 6.

A 6 seed would be ideal. There are lots of 2/3 seeds that are no better than us.

(02-17-2014 11:57 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 08:33 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I don't know what will happen with the rest of the season but there are 3 games left against what have turned out to be the top bb teams. I'd think we'd need to win 2 of the 3 and then at least get to the AAC tourney final to get the 5 seed we all want.

Personally, I do NOT want a 5 seed. I want a 3 (unlikely) or a 6.

This team can beat a one seed in the S16. The 1 seeds are very vulnerable this season.

I want a 4/5 seed if Wichita St is #1 in their bracket. I want a 3/6 seed if Wichita St is #2 in their bracket.

That first game will be against a team like Southern Miss either way.
The second game to get to the second weekend wil likely be played at a level similar to what we had vs Uconn this past weekend, and our upcoming games.

I feel like at some point our "luck" has to turn, and we get the beneift of officiating/lucky shot/etc to win one of these games. Hoping it's in the second game of the tourney.

Once/if we get to the Sweet 16, it all depends on who is the 1/2. I'm hoping it's Wichita St.

We KNOW we can't be in the South regional since it is in Memphis. Florida will likely be the 1 for that one. Syracuse 1 in East. Arizona 1 in West. That leaves Kansas/Wichita St as the 1/2 in midwest I'm thinking. And I think Memphis could beat either.

3/6 matchup vs Villanova PLEASE!!