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Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Our guys played well for most of the game. I know a bunch of you guys will complain that the refs cost us this game, but our unforced TOs were a really big factor.

That being said, I believe our team outplayed UConn today and due to some bad bounces of the ball (and maybe a bad call or two, that can go either way in a tight game) we get the L instead of the W. I expected a loss today, but wanted a good, competitive game to show that the first UConn game was an aberration. I got what I hoped for; this was an amazing game and one of the best Memphis games of the season.

EDIT: Hard to say for sure, but if this one was played at the Forum, it could've easily been a double digit win for us. A bit frustrating.

The 4 Kingz had a great game, and to everyone's pleasure they never once played on the court at the same time. Each one of them had good games.

We outrebounded them by double digits. Austin, Pellom and Shaq played well, Shaq was often getting double or triple teamed but he kept his head in the game (a nice change from the SMU game).

Iverson, I dunno, I just don't think he's ready to be effective at this level yet.

Nick King, I love his tencity on offense and on the boards, but he'll never have the coachs' trust if he can't play better perimeter defense than he did tonight. I thought he was coming along, but while he was at on the court he let Niels Giffey get free for an open 3 (thank god he airballed it, but that's a guy you can easily take out of the game). Then, he didn't switch on screen and gave up a Napier three. The staff let him play through the mistake, but he never saw the court again after he was subbed out. Against a team like UConn, we've got to be able to switch 1 through 4, and King has to focus a lot more on the defensive end to be effective. Against a team with a traditional 4, King can get way more burn.

Gotta make sure that we don't drop a bad one to Rutgers or Houston, and then we can focus on taking two wins from Louisville, Cincy and SMU.

Go Tigers.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Stop it with the " bad call or two"

We outplayed them and got hosed.

Quit trying to take the higher ground.

Jesus Christ........this was a royal F'ing!!!!
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 05:30 PM)springcat Wrote:  Stop it with the " bad call or two"

We outplayed them and got hosed.

Quit trying to take the higher ground.

Jesus Christ........this was a royal F'ing!!!!

Stop complaining. Truth is, we get that rebound late or have one or two less unforced TOs, we win the game.

Blaiming it completely on the refs is a cop out. Be proud of our guys, they fought hard, but be accountable as well.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Completely on the refs? Really?

Give us the one non-call (which was obvious) against Shaq on our final reg possession! 1 ft and we win!

Our guys dealt with the BS all day and still should've won!

You simplify it like it's no big deal. Just another loss!


I don't blame everything on the ref, nor should I. But if you're telling me the ft disparity wasn't a factor......the then wake the F up!!!!!
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Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
*tips hat to the mods* on removing "ref" related threads. Enough is enough.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
You can't pick one lost rebound or a missed free throw. The systemic problem throughout the entire game was the way, way out of whack officiating. If that game had been called just like a 'normal' home game - even with some of the obligatory home cookin' - we win that game by 8-12 points. It shouldn't have even been that close. Even with Napier going off.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
If you want to pick that rebound then I'll pick the moon foul call on Shaq on our last possession in regulation. It goes both ways with the little things. Yea we turned it over, but our shooting countered those turnovers. This was a royal screw job. Stats don't lie. Thus team deserved this win but ask they get for their effort is a loss and that's a shame. Great effort ruined by three guys in stripes
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 06:02 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  You can't pick one lost rebound or a missed free throw. The systemic problem throughout the entire game was the way, way out of whack officiating. If that game had been called just like a 'normal' home game - even with some of the obligatory home cookin' - we win that game by 8-12 points. It shouldn't have even been that close. Even with Napier going off.


I'm not just picking one. I've got several to choose from.


Take your pick!!
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 06:16 PM)springcat Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 06:02 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  You can't pick one lost rebound or a missed free throw. The systemic problem throughout the entire game was the way, way out of whack officiating. If that game had been called just like a 'normal' home game - even with some of the obligatory home cookin' - we win that game by 8-12 points. It shouldn't have even been that close. Even with Napier going off.


I'm not just picking one. I've got several to choose from.


Take your pick!!

Yeah they got more calls...But they forced more calls...Their guards regularly beat ours off the dribble...We tend to reach way more than we should...We rarely initiate contact when we drive, we will pull back and look for the pass, they were jumping into our chests and taking FTs.

Now if they called the game right in the post we win this game...But they called it the same on both ends.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Just one of those bad calls that could have gone either way?

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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 05:48 PM)springcat Wrote:  Completely on the refs? Really?

Give us the one non-call (which was obvious) against Shaq on our final reg possession! 1 ft and we win!

Our guys dealt with the BS all day and still should've won!

You simplify it like it's no big deal. Just another loss!


I don't blame everything on the ref, nor should I. But if you're telling me the ft disparity wasn't a factor......the then wake the F up!!!!!

Wow, so much complain.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 06:02 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  You can't pick one lost rebound or a missed free throw. The systemic problem throughout the entire game was the way, way out of whack officiating. If that game had been called just like a 'normal' home game - even with some of the obligatory home cookin' - we win that game by 8-12 points. It shouldn't have even been that close. Even with Napier going off.

But it wasn't. What are we going to do, mope and complain? Our guys played tough, and if that game is played at the forum during the conference tourney we probably win by 10 or so.

Can't get too down on the loss.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Played a good game. Some dumb turnovers were the game. The non call on Shaq at the end of regulation and the pic BTW posted were my two I thought should have been called.

I'd much rather take this loss on a well played game with nice team play than say the OK state blow out or UCONN home bashing. We could do some damage I'd JJ doesn't go all bipolar. He is peaking at the right time.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 06:11 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  If you want to pick that rebound then I'll pick the moon foul call on Shaq on our last possession in regulation. It goes both ways with the little things. Yea we turned it over, but our shooting countered those turnovers. This was a royal screw job. Stats don't lie. Thus team deserved this win but ask they get for their effort is a loss and that's a shame. Great effort ruined by three guys in stripes

I actually didn't see a foul there. Shaq got his shot rejected on a good defensive play.

We can't deny that we had some boneheaded turnovers to begin the game. A few less of those and who knows.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
(02-15-2014 06:23 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 06:16 PM)springcat Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 06:02 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  You can't pick one lost rebound or a missed free throw. The systemic problem throughout the entire game was the way, way out of whack officiating. If that game had been called just like a 'normal' home game - even with some of the obligatory home cookin' - we win that game by 8-12 points. It shouldn't have even been that close. Even with Napier going off.


I'm not just picking one. I've got several to choose from.


Take your pick!!

Yeah they got more calls...But they forced more calls...Their guards regularly beat ours off the dribble...We tend to reach way more than we should...We rarely initiate contact when we drive, we will pull back and look for the pass, they were jumping into our chests and taking FTs.

Now if they called the game right in the post we win this game...But they called it the same on both ends.

Nah, our guards were as agreesive as theirs were. We had some dumb fouls on the perimeter, but for UConn got the good whistles tonight. That's why home games are easier to win than away games.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
I don't think we were favored to win, were we? We went to overtime on the road with a top 25 team and lost. That's not all that unexpected for any team. We played well. They played better.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
Bad calls happen.

This game was systematically mishandled. Not a conspiracy- just a really bad home court star treatment game.

Combine that with some extra turnovers (although the Memphis turnover numbers would have been fewer if UConn got called for reaches in the same manner as, say, Geron when he fouled out) and you take a loss.

Ref whining looks bad.

But in this game- it fits. They sucked and we were screwed.

Should have secured a top 25 road win and likely moved into the top 16.

Instead, star gazing referees make a really good Napier game into a legendary game. They anticipated fouls that were not there and were awful for the course of the game.

Still pissed.
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(02-15-2014 06:41 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I don't think we were favored to win, were we? We went to overtime on the road with a top 25 team and lost. That's not all that unexpected for any team. We played well. They played better.

I actually think WE played better, but I agree with your post. They needed many fortuitous breaks to even get the game to OT.
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RE: Tough break in Hartford (My take on the game)
We played a really good game today with the exception of turnovers. I have a hard time pinning a game on the refs when we gave away so many possessions, especially when so many were unforced and just sloppy. The refs were not great, and I do have an issue with the large FT difference. However, we gave it away just as much as the refs stole it. In the end, we played a really good game, we looked well coached, and it was a lot of fun to watch.
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(02-15-2014 06:47 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  We played a really good game today with the exception of turnovers. I have a hard time pinning a game on the refs when we gave away so many possessions, especially when so many were unforced and just sloppy. The refs were not great, and I do have an issue with the large FT difference. However, we gave it away just as much as the refs stole it. In the end, we played a really good game, we looked well coached, and it was a lot of fun to watch.

Yep, it could've easily been a win. I think we have a bad taste in our mouth about this one, which will help if we run across UConn in the conferenc tourney.
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