Not to burst your bubble too much but Loftin is not president anymore so all that any time anywhere is out the window.

The real folks who make the athletic decisions are absolutely against restarting the game. They see that there is zero benefit to A&M.

But hey, I bet you had fun writing that mini novel!

I think aggie is perfectly content on letting texas be the one with ego issues

if aggie ever turns down a legitimate series renewal that doesn't have some special condition attached to it. they would face so much public, internal, & political backlash that I don't see how they ever consider not accepting it.

you have a lot of good posts 10th but I just don't see that happening.

John, you might be right, but as I said, UT arrogance makes that possibility pretty much non-existent. They'll only accept a renewal if we agreed to some crappy setup like they got for Thanksgiving where we always play in Austin. They are incapable of offering a fair deal because that would presume some mere mortal was their equal.

A&M made the Best Decision They could possibly have made jumping into the SEC. They have a great future there and need nothing from the Big 12 for respect.

(02-16-2014 04:10 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  John, you might be right, but as I said, UT arrogance makes that possibility pretty much non-existent. They'll only accept a renewal if we agreed to some crappy setup like they got for Thanksgiving where we always play in Austin. They are incapable of offering a fair deal because that would presume some mere mortal was their equal.

yeah thats why i said "without some special condition attached to it"

it's a win for aggie. they are playing their best football and can spin it as "texas is to afraid to play us"

the distance between the two programs is also a + for aggie as they are really developing into their own nice program.

but one thing aggie can never do is have an ego of its own. no matter how many johnny footballs come through college station they will never match the market/political power that texas has which allows UT to get away with so much BS every year.

Good points

As long as the series stays gone, A&M benefits.

hate to interrupt you alternate reality with facts, but he was still president when he TALKED ABOUT PLAYING UT less than 3 months ago and John Sharp is still the chancellor of A&M

again your claim was that A&M had a policy in place of not wanting to play UT....and my replay was that is all fine and good to try and save face with that when it was clear from all involved that it was UT that took a pass on keeping the series going (as documented by the anytime anywhere claims by Lofton and Sharp)

then the claim was "well A&M never talks about it anymore" which is proven again false with supporting documentation that the president of the university talked about it 3 months ago and reiterated the anytime anywhere comments

you can't claim ANYTIME ANYWHERE less than 2 years ago and then claim there is a policy in place to not play UT.....last I checked anytime means ANYTIME.....as in ANY TIME the offer is made......anytime does not mean anytime until we stop talking about it and start telling others that we have a policy to not play UT in place

and even more so when the president of the university reiterated that feeling and statement of anytime anywhere less than 3 months ago which means he was talking about playing UT and which means there was a policy in place less than 3 months ago (with the integrity of the university president at the time on the line) of playing UT anytime anywhere

and again even with a new president in place trying to claim a new 3 month old policy of "we will not play UT" (and ignoring that the current chancellor also stated anytime anywhere and that the burden of the series not taking place falls on UT) just means that A&M has had a 3 month old policy of trying to save face in place after UT declined to play them anytime anywhere or to take A&M up on that offer

so congrats on your new 3 month old policy of not playing UT that you put in place after UT ignored your policy of anytime anywhere for 2 years....I am sure you can get much face saving and chest thumping from that new 3 month old policy of no longer playing a team that has not expressed an interest in playing you for 2 years......even though the highest university system official said "anytime anywhere" and placed all the blame on UT just 2 years ago......and now seems to be going back on his word according to you

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He's not president anymore. So what he said is irrelevant to the here and now.

The people in our AD who actually make these decisions do not support that idea.

So....yeah.

Again not sure what point you are trying make with these mini novels.

I get it's super important to the UT ego that everyone thinks you are in total control and will decide when/if the series continues. It's all part of the charm that makes you such a joy to share a conference with!

(02-16-2014 04:49 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  ....

He's not president anymore. So what he said is irrelevant to the here and now.

The people in our AD who actually make these decisions do not support that idea.

So....yeah.

Again not sure what point you are trying make with these mini novels.

I get it's super important to the UT ego that everyone thinks you are in total control and will decide when/if the series continues. It's all part of the charm that makes you such a joy to share a conference with!

and the Aggie inability to follow even basic reality or logic and to constantly change their position even though they stated their position was firm when they first stated it and the Aggie ability to claim conference accolades that happened before A&M was in the conference and the Aggie ability to turn 3rd or 4th place into their division into a massive accomplishment for the ages is why no one really panicked when A&M left the Big 12

he was president when he made the statement 3 months ago and that means the policy was in place 3 months ago

Sharp that had the same policy is still the chancellor of the system

so again your claims of "continuing the policy of not wanting playing UT" are laughable when 3 months ago the president of the university said his integrity was on the line and that policy had not changed and the chancellor of the university that also had that policy as well is still in place

and your claims that A&M never talks about UT have been proven false as well because the president of the university talked about it 3 months and further he stated his integrity was on the line and the policy was still anytime anywhere

so again congrats on the face saving new 3 month old policy of no longer playing UT that has not moved to play A&M in 2 years

I suppose "not talking about UT" is also a part of this new 3 month old policy, but perhaps that new policy should be broken just one time to let everyone know that A&M actually has a new policy of not playing UT VS the policy of anytime anywhere that was communicated by the then president of the university only 3 months back and that the current chancellor of the A&M system has always stated when ask publicly

if you do not communicate a policy then really it is not a policy now is it especially when the last policy communicated by the highest levels of the administration even 3 months ago was anytime anywhere

(02-16-2014 05:25 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 04:49 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  ....

He's not president anymore. So what he said is irrelevant to the here and now.

The people in our AD who actually make these decisions do not support that idea.

So....yeah.

Again not sure what point you are trying make with these mini novels.

I get it's super important to the UT ego that everyone thinks you are in total control and will decide when/if the series continues. It's all part of the charm that makes you such a joy to share a conference with!

and the Aggie inability to follow even basic reality or logic and to constantly change their position even though they stated their position was firm when they first stated it and the Aggie ability to claim conference accolades that happened before A&M was in the conference and the Aggie ability to turn 3rd or 4th place into their division into a massive accomplishment for the ages is why no one really panicked when A&M left the Big 12

he was president when he made the statement 3 months ago and that means the policy was in place 3 months ago

Sharp that had the same policy is still the chancellor of the system

so again your claims of "continuing the policy of not wanting playing UT" are laughable when 3 months ago the president of the university said his integrity was on the line and that policy had not changed and the chancellor of the university that also had that policy as well is still in place

and your claims that A&M never talks about UT have been proven false as well because the president of the university talked about it 3 months and further he stated his integrity was on the line and the policy was still anytime anywhere

so again congrats on the face saving new 3 month old policy of no longer playing UT that has not moved to play A&M in 2 years

I suppose "not talking about UT" is also a part of this new 3 month old policy, but perhaps that new policy should be broken just one time to let everyone know that A&M actually has a new policy of not playing UT VS the policy of anytime anywhere that was communicated by the then president of the university only 3 months back and that the current chancellor of the A&M system has always stated when ask publicly

if you do not communicate a policy then really it is not a policy now is it especially when the last policy communicated by the highest levels of the administration even 3 months ago was anytime anywhere

That's long enough on this ridiculous argument. If it must continue do so with the PM system and not in the thread.

Ok....

That's a lot of incoherent rambling...

But I THINK what you are asking for is this public statement:

Quote:"Texas A&M’s brass has changed its tune on whether the Aggies should ever play the Texas Longhorns again in football – at least in the regular season.

We hope to play them again in a BCS or playoff game at some point, A&M senior associate athletic director Jason Cook told me this afternoon.

That’s a far cry from A&M president R. Bowen Loftin’s assertion from two years ago that the Aggies, who were then preparing for a shift from the Big 12 to the Southeastern Conference, would agreeably take on the Longhorns anytime and anywhere, as nonconference foes."

That was in direct response to a Kirk Bohls tweet saying

Quote:But I'm also told by a higher-up Longhorn that the Texas-Texas A&M rivalry "perhaps" could resume. #statesman

So you see, the A&M brass has come to its senses and decided not to pursue a regular season game with UT. That was the policy I was referring to and said we should continue from now on.

your first quote is also a far cry from when Loftin (who was still the president of A&M at the time) stated only 3 months back that "anytime anywhere"

and again changing your policy and then boasting about it and boasting about having the power is meaningless when UT has never changed their policy of not playing A&M and no one from UT especially the president of the university, the AD or the chancellor of the system has even actually gone on record and stated they would like to restart the series

so while the last person that was actually willing to go on record and talk about the series publicly was the president of A&M 3 mnths back and he stated he was still reaffirming the anytime anywhere because of his integrity we are all now suppose to know that 3 months later "unnamed officials" that will not go on record have completely swapped the policies of each university

ok ya got ya!

JR, you can close this thread. It's unproductive.

(02-16-2014 06:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  JR, you can close this thread. It's unproductive.

Bit, I knew that about 3 pages ago, and agree, I just try to be patient, but you are right about this one.