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(02-12-2014 03:10 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  WVU can put all future Texas games in Morgantown on WVU's IMG network and make all Longhorn fans pay WVU to watch the game. After all, turn about is fair play. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

That's what WVU should do.
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(02-12-2014 03:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:03 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Todge,

How is LHN in any way hurt by letting a regional provider like Roots show the game in WV/Pittsburgh market?

LHN will NEVER be in that market. Its struggling just to be on in Texas.

If you have UVerse or Verizon FIOS it is on in West Virginia and has been for a couple of years.

Most Texans dont have Uverse or Fios

I can only imagine how many fewer WV folks have it.
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I have UVerse in CT and we get LHN. Obviously, nobody here watches it, but at least for those of us with UVerse, we could theoretically watch it.

How many home conference games does the B12 let its members keep ownership of, or is that not how this situation came about? I think this may be something that UConn may need to look at in the future, controlling a certain portion of our rights apart from the AAC, so that they can at least be property monetized in our market.
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I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.
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(02-12-2014 03:19 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I have UVerse in CT and we get LHN. Obviously, nobody here watches it, but at least for those of us with UVerse, we could theoretically watch it.

How many home conference games does the B12 let its members keep ownership of, or is that not how this situation came about? I think this may be something that UConn may need to look at in the future, controlling a certain portion of our rights apart from the AAC, so that they can at least be property monetized in our market.

You must have a better cable package than me then because I also have UVerse and no LHN...
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Pretty sure Verizon FIOS is unavailable in most of WV.
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Quote:I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

That middle America doesn't have the population/TV to support a major BCS conference by itself and just barely with the Texas market as proved by the SWC, Big 8 and the current B12. That is the root cause of all the B12 problems. It is being kept alive on artificial TV contract life support as the networks spar with each other over properties but it wont last forever.

Its the same reason you keep a dead person on oxygen. To keep the organs you want harvest later alive for now.
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(02-12-2014 03:24 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
Quote:I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

That middle America doesn't have the population/TV to support a major BCS conference by itself and just barely with the Texas market as proved by the SWC, Big 8 and the current B12. That is the root cause of all the B12 problems. It is being kept alive on artificial TV contract life support as the networks spar with each other over properties but it wont last forever.

Hmm, I wonder how the B12 could become relevant in the northeast and possibly Ohio?
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(02-12-2014 03:03 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Todge,

How is LHN in any way hurt by letting a regional provider like Roots show the game in WV/Pittsburgh market?

Why not do what they did for FB and limit it to LHN in Texas where almost nobody will see it but let the regional provider for the other team cover in in their state

the whole concept behind making a network desirable is to have the content on that network only available on that network

that is like asking why when WVU gets their football game and their basketball games on their network that they are getting 6.67 million per year for would they not let that game be shown on Fox Sports SW or on the LHN so that Texas fans can see it......well because that devalues the network properties that WVU is getting 6.67 million for
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(02-12-2014 03:30 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:24 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
Quote:I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

That middle America doesn't have the population/TV to support a major BCS conference by itself and just barely with the Texas market as proved by the SWC, Big 8 and the current B12. That is the root cause of all the B12 problems. It is being kept alive on artificial TV contract life support as the networks spar with each other over properties but it wont last forever.

Hmm, I wonder how the B12 could become relevant in the northeast and possibly Ohio?

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I have no doubt they're on line 2 salivating at the idea
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(02-12-2014 03:33 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:03 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Todge,

How is LHN in any way hurt by letting a regional provider like Roots show the game in WV/Pittsburgh market?

Why not do what they did for FB and limit it to LHN in Texas where almost nobody will see it but let the regional provider for the other team cover in in their state

the whole concept behind making a network desirable is to have the content on that network only available on that network

that is like asking why when WVU gets their football game and their basketball games on their network that they are getting 6.67 million per year for would they not let that game be shown on Fox Sports SW or on the LHN so that Texas fans can see it......well because that devalues the network properties that WVU is getting 6.67 million for

Not really. It actually could make it more valuable if WVU's media partner is showing it regionally in WV and that media partner is able to turn around and also sell the rights to a regional network in the other team's area. That's what happened to UConn and the AAC selling UConn's rights to ESPN and ESPN turning around and re-selling them to SNY.
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(02-12-2014 03:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:33 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:03 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Todge,

How is LHN in any way hurt by letting a regional provider like Roots show the game in WV/Pittsburgh market?

Why not do what they did for FB and limit it to LHN in Texas where almost nobody will see it but let the regional provider for the other team cover in in their state

the whole concept behind making a network desirable is to have the content on that network only available on that network

that is like asking why when WVU gets their football game and their basketball games on their network that they are getting 6.67 million per year for would they not let that game be shown on Fox Sports SW or on the LHN so that Texas fans can see it......well because that devalues the network properties that WVU is getting 6.67 million for

Not really. It actually could make it more valuable if WVU's media partner is showing it regionally in WV and that media partner is able to turn around and also sell the rights to a regional network in the other team's area. That's what happened to UConn and the AAC selling UConn's rights to ESPN and ESPN turning around and re-selling them to SNY.

ESPN was not want the LHN as a regional network they want it as a national network that is why they pay UT 15 million per year for it

if that will work out or not who knows, but UT really does not care they get paid either way

as for WVU if their media partner for 3rd tier can work that deal then that is to their benefit

at the end of the day WVU came to the Big 12 knowing full well what the deal was and WVU makes very good money with it that way and even better money when you add in the 6.67 million that WVU gets for their network.....and if it makes financial sense for their network to try and stay regional and farm things out to other regional networks that will happen if not it won't
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(02-12-2014 03:22 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Pretty sure Verizon FIOS is unavailable in most of WV.
Wrong. 07-coffee3

Check Verizon Fios Availability in West Virginia
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(02-12-2014 03:21 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

Its been explained on here before that it had nothing to do with LHN. But some people don't bother reading.
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Quote:I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

That middle America doesn't have the population/TV to support a major BCS conference by itself and just barely with the Texas market as proved by the SWC, Big 8 and the current B12. That is the root cause of all the B12 problems. It is being kept alive on artificial TV contract life support as the networks spar with each other over properties but it wont last forever.

Its the same reason you keep a dead person on oxygen. To keep the organs you want harvest later alive for now.

From the ratings, the Big 12 earns its keep. Its getting the casual fans around the country that matters, not just the people in the footprint. Look at the dismal ratings of the weaker teams in the SEC. That the SEC is in Florida and Texas doesn't help a Vandy-Arkansas game.
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(02-12-2014 05:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-12-2014 03:21 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

Its been explained on here before that it had nothing to do with LHN. But some people don't bother reading.

Yup.
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(02-12-2014 03:24 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
Quote:I wonder why Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska and Colorado left the conference? (Might as well throw Arkansas from the SWC days in there as well). What is the common denominator here...?

Such a mystery.

That middle America doesn't have the population/TV to support a major BCS conference by itself and just barely with the Texas market as proved by the SWC, Big 8 and the current B12. That is the root cause of all the B12 problems. It is being kept alive on artificial TV contract life support as the networks spar with each other over properties but it wont last forever.

Its the same reason you keep a dead person on oxygen. To keep the organs you want harvest later alive for now.

Another troll post. Par for the aggie course.

That crap was said about us by idiot aggies prior to the FOX and ESPN extensions proving it full of crap.

The Big 12 doesn't have the largest footprint... so what? It delivers strong ratings, has some disproportionately high college football loyal markets, gains interest in areas "technically" outside our footprint (Northern Missouri including KC, Pittsburgh & DC via WVU for starters) and performs well competitively to where it's always going into November with realistic title chances for one of it's members.
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Lets revisit this once the GOR comes up and see where the mighty Big 12 is financially compared to the others.

If you think theyre going to keep a 10 team conference with no markets outside Texas even with the 4 mega region conferences, then I have some beach front property in Waco to sell you!
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(02-12-2014 06:09 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Lets revisit this once the GOR comes up and see where the mighty Big 12 is financially compared to the others.

If you think theyre going to keep a 10 team conference with no markets outside Texas even with the 4 mega region conferences, then I have some beach front property in Waco to sell you!

Ratings are doing just fine compared to all but the SEC.
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