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Drummond Suspension
I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.
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(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.
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(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.

If only there was some sort of punishment that was between a one game suspension and a medieval execution.
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RE: Drummond Suspension
(02-10-2014 12:40 PM)GoBullsGo Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.

If only there was some sort of punishment that was between a one game suspension and a medieval execution.
The poor guy lives in Toledo, what else do you want to put him through.
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He will get more punishment, from the courts.
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(02-10-2014 12:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:40 PM)GoBullsGo Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.

If only there was some sort of punishment that was between a one game suspension and a medieval execution.
The poor guy lives in Toledo, what else do you want to put him through.

Toledo isn't bad, better than cornfields or murder capitol Chicago.

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(02-10-2014 12:40 PM)GoBullsGo Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.

If only there was some sort of punishment that was between a one game suspension and a medieval execution.

If only punishing a kid for an alleged DUI wasn't equivalent to letting all other kids get away with anything.
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RE: Drummond Suspension
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?
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RE: Drummond Suspension
(02-10-2014 12:40 PM)GoBullsGo Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.

If only there was some sort of punishment that was between a one game suspension and a medieval execution.

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(02-10-2014 01:20 PM)T4C8 Wrote:  He will get more punishment, from the courts.

Memo to Toledo Fans: Ideally a schools code of conduct should be more stringent than your City's criminal code...

Hell a UB player punched a fellow player in the preseason and missed one game (nearly 10% of the season)....
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really disappointing to hear this kind of nonsense to justify a ONE games suspension for something as serious as a DUI. Pathetic, really.
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(02-10-2014 04:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?

Hysterics aside, I do not for one moment condone Justin Drummonds actions. Maybe he deserves more than a 2 or 3 game suspension. Serious charges.
What say you ???
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(02-10-2014 04:47 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 04:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?

Hysterics aside, I do not for one moment condone Justin Drummonds actions. Maybe he deserves more than a 2 or 3 game suspension. Serious charges.
What say you ???

I would say three games is a good place to start ~= 10% of the season then let the courts deal with it....

But 1 game is a slap on the wrist type of deal... Heck why not just the first half?

And I apologize if I gave the impression that you were ok with what he did... That was never my intent.
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Jim Christian set the precedent for 1-game suspensions for DUIs while he was at Kent State.
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(02-10-2014 04:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?

Linky?
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There is not a single Rocket fan that is justifying Justin Drummond's actions. He made a huge mistake and will pay the price for it by missing their biggest game of the regular season. I'm confident he will learn from this.

As for the one game suspension, whether you agree with it or not, that is the decision that Coach K made. As fans, there is nothing that we can do about the coach's decision. We just have to accept it and continue to support our team.

While I don't know for sure how Coach K made his decision of a one game suspension, I can give you some information that might shed some light on it. I want to make it clear that I am not justifying his being suspended for only one game. I am simply explaining the reasoning that Coach K might have used.

Coach K has described Drummond as the best leader he has had in his entire coaching career (which includes coaching Dwayne Wade at Marquette). Coach K only recruits good guys who are good students and come from good families. I assume this is the first time that Drummond has gotten in trouble with the law because I don't think Coach K would have recruited him in the first place otherwise.

Again, I am not saying that this excuses Drummond in any way, shape, or form whatsoever. I am simply giving some information that Coach K might give to explain his decision of a one game suspension.
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(02-10-2014 05:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 04:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?

Linky?

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/2/9/539456...t-on-smart
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(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  There is not a single Rocket fan that is justifying Justin Drummond's actions.
Maybe not directly, but those that are saying its the Court's responsibility and not the University's responsibility to pass judgment are offering passive acceptance of it.


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  He made a huge mistake and will pay the price for it by missing their biggest game of the regular season. I'm confident he will learn from this.
Is a 1 game suspension really "paying the price"? Put that in context with what you know about other student/athletes who have been suspended, what is the lesson being learned- play well enough and DUI will be treated with the harshness of skipping practice?


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  As for the one game suspension, whether you agree with it or not, that is the decision that Coach K made. As fans, there is nothing that we can do about the coach's decision. We just have to accept it and continue to support our team.
No, there is something you can do about it, you can voice your disproval. Supporting your team shouldn't include supporting a slap on the wrist for a serious offense.


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  While I don't know for sure how Coach K made his decision of a one game suspension, I can give you some information that might shed some light on it. I want to make it clear that I am not justifying his being suspended for only one game. I am simply explaining the reasoning that Coach K might have used.
none of those reasons matter. The kid messed up and a 1 game suspension is a joke.
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(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 05:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 04:21 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 12:30 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 11:58 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  I think it is ridiculous that Drummond was only suspended one game for getting a DUI.. He put people's lives at danger by driving a car drunk. This sets a bad example for Toledo and how they will let their kids get away with anything if it means winning.

I would imagine if this team wasn't in the race for a MAC Title, he would have gotten more than one game.

As I posted on our board, maybe to go medieval on the young man would be the proper course of action. Why not have him drawn and quartered at halftime of the next game.
I seriously believe that the embarrassment brought on himself and the program will hopefully bring positive long term ramifications for Justin Drummond.
IMO, a week off (2 game suspension) along with what the courts deem necessary, seems in order. Thankfully, no one was hurt or killed in the incident.

Oh knock off the hysterics...

A player in a B12 game is called the N word, shoves a fan, and he is looking at multiple games... A UT player gets drunk and behind the wheel and he is getting one game?

Linky?

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/2/9/539456...t-on-smart

I think he is referring to the fact that there is some question about what the fan actually said to Smart. The idiot fan has admitted to being way out of line, but has denied making any racial remark.
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(02-10-2014 06:56 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  There is not a single Rocket fan that is justifying Justin Drummond's actions.
Maybe not directly, but those that are saying its the Court's responsibility and not the University's responsibility to pass judgment are offering passive acceptance of it.


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  He made a huge mistake and will pay the price for it by missing their biggest game of the regular season. I'm confident he will learn from this.
Is a 1 game suspension really "paying the price"? Put that in context with what you know about other student/athletes who have been suspended, what is the lesson being learned- play well enough and DUI will be treated with the harshness of skipping practice?


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  As for the one game suspension, whether you agree with it or not, that is the decision that Coach K made. As fans, there is nothing that we can do about the coach's decision. We just have to accept it and continue to support our team.
No, there is something you can do about it, you can voice your disproval. Supporting your team shouldn't include supporting a slap on the wrist for a serious offense.


(02-10-2014 06:41 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  While I don't know for sure how Coach K made his decision of a one game suspension, I can give you some information that might shed some light on it. I want to make it clear that I am not justifying his being suspended for only one game. I am simply explaining the reasoning that Coach K might have used.
none of those reasons matter. The kid messed up and a 1 game suspension is a joke.

How do you know that being suspended for one game is not "paying the price" personally for Justin Drummond? I certainly agree that a one game suspension is not enough punishment for some players, but can you at least accept that it might be for other players, especially those who have been model citizens previously? It might be possible that for Justin Drummond personally, missing one game of such magnitude will have the same impact on him that a multiple game suspension would have on a player who has a history of getting in trouble.

I'm looking forward to the game on Wednesday. The first matchup in Athens was a great college basketball game. I think the rematch in Toledo will be another great game. I'm going to focus on the Rockets players who will be playing in the game.
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