(02-08-2014 11:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:22 PM)cleveland2854 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Ply him at either.

He can't guard the 3 yet. Doing very well playing the PF position right now though. Maybe you're onto something there.

His offense needs some work for sure. But, his rebounding is NBA ready right now.

Hell, his offense is fine. Everytime he touches the ball he's getting fouled. It's his defense I worry about, but he seems to do fine guarding the 4.

He has had a tough time guarding the 3 but frankly he hasn't been allowed to play thru his mistakes. It's too late in the season to play him at the 3 consistently...Coach IMO has made a mistake not playing and developing King at the 3. But with his hustle and intensity, he can contribute for us this year at the 4 especially since Nichols seems to be struggling on defense.

(02-08-2014 11:43 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:24 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:39 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't see how Josh keeps him buried on the bench.

#onlylegitking

amen. Joe's partial block did get us on a run....but King's timely rebounding and getting some Zag players into foul trouble was the difference maker in this game.
GTG! Great win!
Yet another top 25 win for Memphis and Coach Pastner. 8-)

What is a partial block? Will the box score say Joe Jackson 0.5 blocks?

Joe didn't block the shot...it was altered.
The Zag player actually managed to touch the rim with the ball after Joe's hand hit the ball.
I think the guy was just surprised at Joe challenging him...and took his mind off of the dunk for a split second...and did not follow thru.
Nice attempt at being a 'smart bottom'

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:22 PM)cleveland2854 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Ply him at either.

He can't guard the 3 yet. Doing very well playing the PF position right now though. Maybe you're onto something there.

His offense needs some work for sure. But, his rebounding is NBA ready right now.

Hell, his offense is fine. Everytime he touches the ball he's getting fouled. It's his defense I worry about, but he seems to do fine guarding the 4.

He really worked hard tonight on the defensive end. The only time he made any sort of mistake was not closing out on his man and allowing an easy entry, but it was only one time.

And, for a change, JP let him play through a mistake. Plus, his FT stroke is looking better.

Coach didn't have a choice today...he had to let King play thru his mistakes. No Dom, hurt Pellom and Nichols wasn't playing well...he had no choice but to play King. Let's see if King plays more in the future.

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  King has looked good all season. His opportunities and playing time have been yanked around for seemingly no reason. The guy is always around the ball. He's always hustling up and down the court. He's always getting rebounds or getting close. He has a very high motor and he's been criminally underused

When King gets time at the 4 people cry and moan that Pastner is going small and playing players out of position. But it's pretty clear, King plays the 4 like a madman right now. The 3? Not so much, especially on D. He's coming along though.

I doubt there's more than 1 or 2 poster that complain about King playing at the 4. Hell most of us are happy just seeing King get any playing time especially since he can help the team so much.

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:43 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:24 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:39 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't see how Josh keeps him buried on the bench.

#onlylegitking

amen. Joe's partial block did get us on a run....but King's timely rebounding and getting some Zag players into foul trouble was the difference maker in this game.
GTG! Great win!
Yet another top 25 win for Memphis and Coach Pastner. 8-)

What is a partial block? Will the box score say Joe Jackson 0.5 blocks?

Joe didn't block the hot...it was altered.
The Zag player actually managed to touch the rim with the ball after Joe's hand hit the ball.
I think the guy was just surprised at Joe challenging him...and took his mind off of the dunk for a split second...and did not follow thru.
Nice attempt at being a 'smart bottom'

Huh? Joe didn't block the shot?

Perhaps you should watch the replay. There's a nice video in the "Joe's Block" thread.

You are the only one on the planet who would call that "altered".

(02-08-2014 11:48 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:22 PM)cleveland2854 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  He can't guard the 3 yet. Doing very well playing the PF position right now though. Maybe you're onto something there.

His offense needs some work for sure. But, his rebounding is NBA ready right now.

Hell, his offense is fine. Everytime he touches the ball he's getting fouled. It's his defense I worry about, but he seems to do fine guarding the 4.

He really worked hard tonight on the defensive end. The only time he made any sort of mistake was not closing out on his man and allowing an easy entry, but it was only one time.

And, for a change, JP let him play through a mistake. Plus, his FT stroke is looking better.

Coach didn't have a choice today...he had to let King play thru his mistakes. No Dom, hurt Pellom and Nichols wasn't playing well...he had no choice but to play King. Let's see if King plays more in the future.

PLAY NICK KING!

(02-08-2014 11:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:22 PM)cleveland2854 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Ply him at either.

He can't guard the 3 yet. Doing very well playing the PF position right now though. Maybe you're onto something there.

His offense needs some work for sure. But, his rebounding is NBA ready right now.

Hell, his offense is fine. Everytime he touches the ball he's getting fouled. It's his defense I worry about, but he seems to do fine guarding the 4.

Its fine for what we need out of him. But, we will need to be able to run offense for him next year.

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:22 PM)cleveland2854 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Ply him at either.

He can't guard the 3 yet. Doing very well playing the PF position right now though. Maybe you're onto something there.

His offense needs some work for sure. But, his rebounding is NBA ready right now.

Hell, his offense is fine. Everytime he touches the ball he's getting fouled. It's his defense I worry about, but he seems to do fine guarding the 4.

He has had a tough time guarding the 3 but frankly he hasn't been allowed to play thru his mistakes. It's too late in the season to play him at the 3 consistently...Coach IMO has made a mistake not playing and developing King at the 3. But with his hustle and intensity, he can contribute for us this year at the 4 especially since Nichols seems to be struggling on defense.

Nah, Crawford is better at the 3 than Nick will be this season. Nick's time at the 3 is next year. He can get some damn good PT by playing the garbage man at the 4 though, as we saw tonight.

I think King earned himself extra minutes going forward.

(02-08-2014 11:50 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  King has looked good all season. His opportunities and playing time have been yanked around for seemingly no reason. The guy is always around the ball. He's always hustling up and down the court. He's always getting rebounds or getting close. He has a very high motor and he's been criminally underused

When King gets time at the 4 people cry and moan that Pastner is going small and playing players out of position. But it's pretty clear, King plays the 4 like a madman right now. The 3? Not so much, especially on D. He's coming along though.

I doubt there's more than 1 or 2 poster that complain about King playing at the 4. Hell most of us are happy just seeing King get any playing time especially since he can help the team so much.

I dunno. I seem to hear it a lot. I love King and his effort, I just think that right now, his talents are best suited to the 4. Some people think he should be starting at the 3 and criticize the coaches for not doing so. I don't see where they're coming from though.

I would rather see him play than Pellom. I think he's better and we need him to develop. He can play the wing next year. We need him to backup the 4 this year.

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  He really worked hard tonight on the defensive end. The only time he made any sort of mistake was not closing out on his man and allowing an easy entry, but it was only one time.

And, for a change, JP let him play through a mistake. Plus, his FT stroke is looking better.

I agree, but it's a lot easier to get out on Sam Dower than Gary Bell, though. Bodying up a 4 man and chasing a 3 man through screens and off the dribble are two different beats.

His stroke looks a LOT better.

(02-08-2014 11:56 PM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  I would rather see him play than Pellom. I think he's better and we need him to develop. He can play the wing next year. We need him to backup the 4 this year.

Pellom's hurt, and probably will be hurt for the rest of the year. We need to start transitioning King to take Pellom's minutes from here on out.

(02-08-2014 11:55 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:50 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  King has looked good all season. His opportunities and playing time have been yanked around for seemingly no reason. The guy is always around the ball. He's always hustling up and down the court. He's always getting rebounds or getting close. He has a very high motor and he's been criminally underused

When King gets time at the 4 people cry and moan that Pastner is going small and playing players out of position. But it's pretty clear, King plays the 4 like a madman right now. The 3? Not so much, especially on D. He's coming along though.

I doubt there's more than 1 or 2 poster that complain about King playing at the 4. Hell most of us are happy just seeing King get any playing time especially since he can help the team so much.

I dunno. I seem to hear it a lot. I love King and his effort, I just think that right now, his talents are best suited to the 4. Some people think he should be starting at the 3 and criticize the coaches for not doing so. I don't see where they're coming from though.

King played mostly on the perimeter in HS, especially on offense. He shot a lot of 3s. I think the 3 is his natural position, but he needs a bit more experience to make a really big impact at that position right now.

That said, his rebounding is extremely impressive, and he can help us a lot at the 4 (as proven tonight).

(02-08-2014 11:56 PM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  I would rather see him play than Pellom. I think he's better and we need him to develop. He can play the wing next year. We need him to backup the 4 this year.

We need Pellom's size if healthy. I think Pellom is better with the ball in the paint, but King has a nose for the ball and fights for it.

(02-08-2014 11:50 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:43 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:24 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:39 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't see how Josh keeps him buried on the bench.

#onlylegitking

amen. Joe's partial block did get us on a run....but King's timely rebounding and getting some Zag players into foul trouble was the difference maker in this game.
GTG! Great win!
Yet another top 25 win for Memphis and Coach Pastner. 8-)

What is a partial block? Will the box score say Joe Jackson 0.5 blocks?

Joe didn't block the hot...it was altered.
The Zag player actually managed to touch the rim with the ball after Joe's hand hit the ball.
I think the guy was just surprised at Joe challenging him...and took his mind off of the dunk for a split second...and did not follow thru.
Nice attempt at being a 'smart bottom'

Huh? Joe didn't block the shot?

Perhaps you should watch the replay. There's a nice video in the "Joe's Block" thread.

You are the only one on the planet who would call that "altered".

Then watch it again. Joe hit the ball, but the Zag player still had the ball moving forward. The ball hit the rim even after Joe had hit it. The ball had not left the Zag player's hands. Still a hell of a play.

(02-09-2014 12:03 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:56 PM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  I would rather see him play than Pellom. I think he's better and we need him to develop. He can play the wing next year. We need him to backup the 4 this year.

We need Pellom's size if healthy. I think Pellom is better with the ball in the paint, but King has a nose for the ball and fights for it.

Pellom is 6'7" 225, or around that right? King is 6'7" 220.

(02-09-2014 12:04 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:50 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:43 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:24 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  amen. Joe's partial block did get us on a run....but King's timely rebounding and getting some Zag players into foul trouble was the difference maker in this game.
GTG! Great win!
Yet another top 25 win for Memphis and Coach Pastner. 8-)

What is a partial block? Will the box score say Joe Jackson 0.5 blocks?

Joe didn't block the hot...it was altered.
The Zag player actually managed to touch the rim with the ball after Joe's hand hit the ball.
I think the guy was just surprised at Joe challenging him...and took his mind off of the dunk for a split second...and did not follow thru.
Nice attempt at being a 'smart bottom'

Huh? Joe didn't block the shot?

Perhaps you should watch the replay. There's a nice video in the "Joe's Block" thread.

You are the only one on the planet who would call that "altered".

Then watch it again. Joe hit the ball, but the Zag player still had the ball moving forward. The ball hit the rim even after Joe had hit it. The ball had not left the Zag player's hands. Still a hell of a play.

Counts as a block.

Nick King HAS to play. With King, AN, and Shaq, we would dominate the glass

(02-09-2014 12:04 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:50 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:47 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:43 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:24 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  amen. Joe's partial block did get us on a run....but King's timely rebounding and getting some Zag players into foul trouble was the difference maker in this game.
GTG! Great win!
Yet another top 25 win for Memphis and Coach Pastner. 8-)

What is a partial block? Will the box score say Joe Jackson 0.5 blocks?

Joe didn't block the hot...it was altered.
The Zag player actually managed to touch the rim with the ball after Joe's hand hit the ball.
I think the guy was just surprised at Joe challenging him...and took his mind off of the dunk for a split second...and did not follow thru.
Nice attempt at being a 'smart bottom'

Huh? Joe didn't block the shot?

Perhaps you should watch the replay. There's a nice video in the "Joe's Block" thread.

You are the only one on the planet who would call that "altered".

Then watch it again. Joe hit the ball, but the Zag player still had the ball moving forward. The ball hit the rim even after Joe had hit it. The ball had not left the Zag player's hands. Still a hell of a play.

LOL ... really. Joe hit the ball, it moved backwards, the guy lost control of it as a result, he kinda throws it at the rim.

Is that a blocked shot? Or is it an altered shot?

Are you really going to try to say that is not a blocked shot? If so, well ... I guess you can be alone in your belief.