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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
What goes around, comes around - the old Southern Conference circa 1930:

LSU, Tulane, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Sewanee, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Clemson, NC State, UNC, Duke, VT, UVA, VMI, Washington & Lee, Maryland.

Those that deemphasized football - Tulane, Sewanee, VMI, Washington & Lee

Those that traded conferences - GT and South Carolina

Those added in the SoCon's footprint: Wake Forest, Miami, FSU, Louisville

Those added to the overall footprint: TAMU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Notre Dame

Ideally, TAMU, Arkansas, and Mizzou would play a B12 team of historic note, like Texas, OU, and Kansas. BC, Syracuse, and Pitt ideally would play B10 foes like Penn State, Michigan State, and Northwestern.
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 09:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We will play both Auburn and Kentucky in 2015.

Those were probably scheduled before the ACC invite, though, when they thought Louisville was not a P5 team. Am I correct?
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Target date is 2016 per Mike Slive

Quote:SEC commissioner Mike Slive told ESPN.com through a spokesman that his conference wants to create a scheduling format to take effect in 2016, but no details have been finalized.

"Achieving that objective involves exploring as many options as possible, which we are currently doing," Slive said. "Anything more is pure speculation."
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Sounds like this is one of the options which the SEC is considering (another is going to 9 conference games). So this is not just ACC daydreaming.

It may also be in line with the ACC wanting to be able to determine how to name their champion for the playoff purposes. I would really enjoy a scheduling deal. I wouldn't mind them with other P5 conferences, too. I just want rotating teams so nobody gets stuck playing in Mississippi all the time or in Iowa of such.

Plus, I'd like to see UT and TAMU get back to their annual game.
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 02:25 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 09:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We will play both Auburn and Kentucky in 2015.

Those were probably scheduled before the ACC invite, though, when they thought Louisville was not a P5 team. Am I correct?

No, when the Chick-fila game with Auburn was scheduled, UofL had already accepted the ACC invite. The series with UK runs through at least 2016, although they will weasel out of it if the SEC goes to a 9-game conference schedule.
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 01:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  What goes around, comes around - the old Southern Conference circa 1930:

LSU, Tulane, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Sewanee, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Clemson, NC State, UNC, Duke, VT, UVA, VMI, Washington & Lee, Maryland.

Those that deemphasized football - Tulane, Sewanee, VMI, Washington & Lee

Those that traded conferences - GT and South Carolina

Those added in the SoCon's footprint: Wake Forest, Miami, FSU, Louisville

Those added to the overall footprint: TAMU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Notre Dame

Ideally, TAMU, Arkansas, and Mizzou would play a B12 team of historic note, like Texas, OU, and Kansas. BC, Syracuse, and Pitt ideally would play B10 foes like Penn State, Michigan State, and Northwestern.

Correct, as I've been touting for a few months now -- The old Southern Conference is currently being resurrected under the media umbrella of ESPN, and a few of us have already seen the writing on the wall.

First, the SEC Network with the ACC Network soon to follow. Next, this scheduling alliance which will likely resemble a bit of the Southern Conference's old scheduling model.

I believe this leak is the first "visual" leak of something that is coming and I am excited about any ACC-SEC scheduling alliance.

Now, how this ties into "9 conference games" has me curious.
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 02:38 PM)Villecard Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 02:25 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 09:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We will play both Auburn and Kentucky in 2015.

Those were probably scheduled before the ACC invite, though, when they thought Louisville was not a P5 team. Am I correct?

No, when the Chick-fila game with Auburn was scheduled, UofL had already accepted the ACC invite. The series with UK runs through at least 2016, although they will weasel out of it if the SEC goes to a 9-game conference schedule.

Thanks for clarifying. Some SEC schools refuse to schedule OOC that are out of state, or even against a decent team unless mandated by the State (Can you say Florida?).
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-08-2014 06:21 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 01:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  What goes around, comes around - the old Southern Conference circa 1930:

LSU, Tulane, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Sewanee, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Clemson, NC State, UNC, Duke, VT, UVA, VMI, Washington & Lee, Maryland.

Those that deemphasized football - Tulane, Sewanee, VMI, Washington & Lee

Those that traded conferences - GT and South Carolina

Those added in the SoCon's footprint: Wake Forest, Miami, FSU, Louisville

Those added to the overall footprint: TAMU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Notre Dame

Ideally, TAMU, Arkansas, and Mizzou would play a B12 team of historic note, like Texas, OU, and Kansas. BC, Syracuse, and Pitt ideally would play B10 foes like Penn State, Michigan State, and Northwestern.

Correct, as I've been touting for a few months now -- The old Southern Conference is currently being resurrected under the media umbrella of ESPN, and a few of us have already seen the writing on the wall.

First, the SEC Network with the ACC Network soon to follow. Next, this scheduling alliance which will likely resemble a bit of the Southern Conference's old scheduling model.

I believe this leak is the first "visual" leak of something that is coming and I am excited about any ACC-SEC scheduling alliance.

Now, how this ties into "9 conference games" has me curious.

I don't understand how people are not seeing what is happening. ESPN has covered their collegiate sports butts. Think about the match ups that can be inventory with this scheduling alliance. What conference and conferences can match this? Aside from the regular schedule match ups inside of the conference. You throw in the likelihood of a Miami vs UF, Clemson vs Bama, Auburn, FSU vs UGa, Clemson vs UGa, U of L vs A&M, etc. the possibilities are endless when you think about the programs that have national appeal. Sure, the Pac has USC and Oregon... Big have Mich vs OSU and the Big12 have Texas vs OU. Throw in Penn State vs ? or Neb. vs Texas or Neb vs OU and you get the picture. ESPN with the ACC and the SEC has a range of great inventory.

Now, the basketball side is unmatched. 3 top 5 programs of all time in UNC, UK and Duke. Throw in 3 other top 20 programs of all time in State, Cuse and U of L. Throw in the new kids on the block in UF, Mizzu and maybe Arkansas and it is a wrap. You still have Pitt, ND and good but not great teams in FSU, Virginia, etc. No other conferences will give their
network that inventory.

Baseball is the same thing and Olympic sports is also dominated by the majority of programs in the SEC or ACC. Wrestling, swimming, track and field and volleyball are not as strong but ESPN is sitting pretty. if they get this scheduling alliance in place between the SEC and ACC, it is a wrap.
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RE: ESPN report: ACC vs. SEC: Another scheduling idea
(02-10-2014 04:18 PM)Indytarheel Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 06:21 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  
(02-08-2014 01:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  What goes around, comes around - the old Southern Conference circa 1930:

LSU, Tulane, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Sewanee, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Clemson, NC State, UNC, Duke, VT, UVA, VMI, Washington & Lee, Maryland.

Those that deemphasized football - Tulane, Sewanee, VMI, Washington & Lee

Those that traded conferences - GT and South Carolina

Those added in the SoCon's footprint: Wake Forest, Miami, FSU, Louisville

Those added to the overall footprint: TAMU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Notre Dame

Ideally, TAMU, Arkansas, and Mizzou would play a B12 team of historic note, like Texas, OU, and Kansas. BC, Syracuse, and Pitt ideally would play B10 foes like Penn State, Michigan State, and Northwestern.

Correct, as I've been touting for a few months now -- The old Southern Conference is currently being resurrected under the media umbrella of ESPN, and a few of us have already seen the writing on the wall.

First, the SEC Network with the ACC Network soon to follow. Next, this scheduling alliance which will likely resemble a bit of the Southern Conference's old scheduling model.

I believe this leak is the first "visual" leak of something that is coming and I am excited about any ACC-SEC scheduling alliance.

Now, how this ties into "9 conference games" has me curious.

I don't understand how people are not seeing what is happening. ESPN has covered their collegiate sports butts. Think about the match ups that can be inventory with this scheduling alliance. What conference and conferences can match this? Aside from the regular schedule match ups inside of the conference. You throw in the likelihood of a Miami vs UF, Clemson vs Bama, Auburn, FSU vs UGa, Clemson vs UGa, U of L vs A&M, etc. the possibilities are endless when you think about the programs that have national appeal. Sure, the Pac has USC and Oregon... Big have Mich vs OSU and the Big12 have Texas vs OU. Throw in Penn State vs ? or Neb. vs Texas or Neb vs OU and you get the picture. ESPN with the ACC and the SEC has a range of great inventory.

Now, the basketball side is unmatched. 3 top 5 programs of all time in UNC, UK and Duke. Throw in 3 other top 20 programs of all time in State, Cuse and U of L. Throw in the new kids on the block in UF, Mizzu and maybe Arkansas and it is a wrap. You still have Pitt, ND and good but not great teams in FSU, Virginia, etc. No other conferences will give their
network that inventory.

Baseball is the same thing and Olympic sports is also dominated by the majority of programs in the SEC or ACC. Wrestling, swimming, track and field and volleyball are not as strong but ESPN is sitting pretty. if they get this scheduling alliance in place between the SEC and ACC, it is a wrap.

I think ESPN is covering their College TV butt, however, I don't believe a scheduling agreement between the ACC and SEC is necessary to do so. I think ESPN is doing so for more compelling and viewer minded games, I.e. LSU or TAM in Boston, Syracuse or Pitt grabbing historic names in high people concentrations.

I don't believe the scheduling agreement is necessary because once a conference e is tied in, all of its home games are inventory regardless of opponent.
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An all sports scheduling agreement could help drive carriage of an SEC network in ACC territory and an ACC network in SEC territory.
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we will scratch your back if you scratch ours in a different spot
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If we go through with this I hope we use someone different to do the negotiations instead of the mook who gave away the farm in the last ESPN negotiations and the Orange Bowl deal with the SEC and B1G or else we'll get the short end of the stick again.
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