Based on what I think.....

BIG 12

TEXAS
TEXAS TECH
TCU
BAYLOR
OKLAHOMA
OKLAHOMA STATE
KANSAS
KANSAS STATE
IOWA STATE
WEST VIRGINIA
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CINCINNATI
BYU
TULANE
HOUSTON
SMU
MEMPHIS
COLORADO STATE
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TIER 1 (ACC COLLAPSE)

FLORIDA STATE
CLEMSON
GEORGIA TECH
MIAMI
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UCF
SOUTH FLORIDA
EAST CAROLINA

SEC

MISSOURI
TEXAS A&M
ARKANSAS
LSU
OLE MISS
MISSISSIPPI STATE
ALABAMA
AUBURN
VANDERBILT
TENNESSEE
KENTUCKY
SOUTH CAROLINA
GEORGIA
FLORIDA
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TIER 1 WEST (BIG 12 COLLAPSE)

OKLAHOMA
OKLHAOMA STATE
TEXAS
TEXAS TECH
KANSAS
KANSAS STATE
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TIER 2 WEST

TULANE
MEMPHIS
HOUSTON
SMU
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TIER 1 EAST (ACC COLLAPSE)

NORTH CAROLINA
DUKE
VIRGINIA
VIRGINIA TECH
NC STATE
WEST VIRGINIA
WAKE FORREST
FLORIDA STATE
CLEMSON
GEORGIA TECH
LOUISVILLE
MIAMI
MARYLAND
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TIER 2 EAST

EAST CAROLINA
UCF
SOUTH FLORIDA
CINCINNATI
OLD DOMINION
CHARLOTTE

BIG

NEBRASKA
IOWA
MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
INDIANA
PURDUE
MICHIGAN
MICHIGAN STATE
OHIO STATE
PENN STATE
MARYLAND
RUTGERS
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TIER 1 WEST

MISSOURI
KANSAS
OKLAHOMA
TEXAS
IOWA STATE
BAYLOR
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TIER 2 WEST

KANSAS STATE
OKLAHOMA STATE
COLORADO STATE
AIR FORCE
TCU
SMU
HOUSTON
RICE
TULSA
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TIER 1 EAST (ACC COLLAPSE)

vIRGINIA
NORTH CAROLINA
DUKE
SYRACUSE
BOSTON COLLEGE
GEORGIA TECH
VANDERBILT
VIRGINIA TECH
WAKE FORREST
UCONN
KENTUCKY
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TIER 2 EAST

BUFFALO
NOTRE DAME
ARMY
NAVY
PITTSBURGH
TEMPLE
CINCINNATI

ACC

BOSTON COLLEGE
SYRACUSE
PITTSBURGH
NOTRE DAME
LOUISVILLE
VIRGINIA
VIRGINIA TECH
WAKE FORREST
DUKE
NORTH CAROLINA
NC STATE
CLEMSON
GEORGIA TECH
FLORIDA STATE
MIAMI
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TIER 1

CINCINNATI
UCONN
WEST VIRGINIA
VANDERBILT
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TIER 2

NAVY
SOUTH FLORIDA
UCF
TEMPLE
ARMY
MEMPHIS

PAC-12

WASHINGTON
WASHINGTON STATE
OREGON
OREGON STATE
STANFORD
CAL
USC
UCLA
UTAH
COLOARDO
ARIZONA
ARIZONA STATE
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TIER 1 (BIG 12 COLLAPSE)

TEXAS
OKLAHOMA
TEXAS TECH
OKLAHOMA STATE
KANSAS
BAYLOR
TCU
KANSAS STATE
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TIER 2

BYU
AIR FORCE
HOUSTON
SMU
RICE
BOISE STATE
UTEP
NEW MEXICO
COLORADO STATE
TULSA
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UNLV
FRESNO STATE
SAN DIEGO STATE
HAWAII
NEVADA
NEW MEXICO STATE
UTAH STATE
UTSA

All I hear is that the top candidates at this time for the Big 12 IF they were to expand continue to be: UCF, USF, UConn, BYU, Cincinnati in no particular order.

^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

I think we've reached a point at which even realignment-junkies are simply getting a headache from thinking about this topic anymore.

Your list is laughable, and the above poster is correct. This subject has been done ad nauseum. Vandy as an ACC candidate?

Dafuqdidijustread?

It makes me think of Selection Sunday. All these bubble teams, but who will be the last 4 in?

G5 Teams with upward potential:

Boise State
BYU
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Fresno State
Houston
Memphis
San Diego State
South Florida

I wont comment on it all because quite frankly it is hard to read, that is not a slight, just recommending you look into how you format these kind of posts when you create them. Nice to see folks still theorizing though.

In regards to your Big Ten musings. A little tip from a Big Ten guy, any scenario that includes Iowa State as a possible target, is not something I would take seriously at all. Listing Baylor is about as bad. Texas is a funny State in that regard. There really is only one school there that could possibly fit in with The Big Ten.

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Memphis may get blocked because of academics and the historically poor performance of the football team.

They aren't discussed much in regards to the B12 but I really like Houston's chances since they bring another large school into the footprint, solid enough academics and that new football stadium.

I have a difficult time seeing the B12 a football first conference that sends its champ to the Sugar Bowl against the SEC to add a weak football team. They've always added the strongest football program available when back filling (WVU, TCU in that order).

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

(02-07-2014 05:27 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Your list is laughable, and the above poster is correct. This subject has been done ad nauseum.

OK, but this forum does have "conference realignment" in its title so ....

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Memphis is definitely a southern town. Its about as southern as you can get. That you will get no disagreement from me.

However, I don't think the B12 views itself in any shape or form as a southern league. Its a Texas-Oklahoma conference, a distinct region onto itself. I say it thinks of itself as less southern than the ACC does even with the northern additions. North Carolina is another strong southern bastion.

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Dude, it is ridiculous to say that Memphis and WVU are in the same vicinity. About as silly as saying the same thing of Miami and Atlanta.

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(02-09-2014 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Dude, it is ridiculous to say that Memphis and WVU are in the same vicinity. About as silly as saying the same thing of Miami and Atlanta.

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Not at all given how spread out the B12 is and how separated apart WVU is from the next team. Tennessee is only separated from Ohio and West Virginia by Kentucky and next to Kansas.

(02-09-2014 11:46 AM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-09-2014 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Dude, it is ridiculous to say that Memphis and WVU are in the same vicinity. About as silly as saying the same thing of Miami and Atlanta.

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Not at all given how spread out the B12 is and how separated apart WVU is from the next team. Tennessee is only separated from Ohio and West Virginia by Kentucky and next to Kansas.

Yes, and Louisiana is only separated from New Mexico by Texas. But that doesn't make New Mexico State and LSU in the "same vicinity".

Nobody in West Virginia considers Memphis to be in its vicinity, or vice-versa. That's because they are 750 miles apart.

(02-09-2014 11:46 AM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-09-2014 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:07 PM)AntiG Wrote:  ^ I would say Memphis would be one of the top candidates too as they fit in very well with the southern culture and are in the vicinity of both Cincy and WVU.

Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Dude, it is ridiculous to say that Memphis and WVU are in the same vicinity. About as silly as saying the same thing of Miami and Atlanta.

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Not at all given how spread out the B12 is and how separated apart WVU is from the next team. Tennessee is only separated from Ohio and West Virginia by Kentucky and next to Kansas.

How do you figure Tennessee is next to Kansas?

(02-09-2014 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-09-2014 11:46 AM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-09-2014 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 11:26 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Well yeah, if you think that about 500 miles to Cincy and 750 to Morgantown are "in the vicinity of both".

Not that different than Atlanta to Miami in the ACC. Its pretty much in the same region and brings Morgantown at least a bit closer to the rest of the B12.

Dude, it is ridiculous to say that Memphis and WVU are in the same vicinity. About as silly as saying the same thing of Miami and Atlanta.

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Not at all given how spread out the B12 is and how separated apart WVU is from the next team. Tennessee is only separated from Ohio and West Virginia by Kentucky and next to Kansas.

Yes, and Louisiana is only separated from New Mexico by Texas. But that doesn't make New Mexico State and LSU in the "same vicinity".

Nobody in West Virginia considers Memphis to be in its vicinity, or vice-versa. That's because they are 750 miles apart.

He's right.

UCONN is a better regional rival to West Virginia than Memphis, not to mention being old Big East opponents.

Morgantown to Memphis - 750 miles
Morgantown to Storrs, CT - 525 miles