(02-07-2014 10:41 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Good sign that all of the current Top 100 RPI teams will be in CUSA next season plus possibly adding another Top 100 RPI team in WKU next season....I think we can get 2 bids regularly to dance at least...

We need to get 6-7 teams each year in the top 100. Most likely that will give us 2-3 teams in the NCAAs and a couple more in the NIT.

(02-07-2014 09:32 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(02-06-2014 07:07 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  If Charlotte wins at Tulane and then loses at Southern Miss, they will still improve their RPI most likely. La Tech jumped 20 or so spots after losing at Southern Miss.

It would improve about 10 spots

http://www.rpiforecast.com/wizard/Charlotte.html

Glad I'm not the only person who has had some fun with this new tool they put out recently.

(02-07-2014 01:58 PM)EaglehasLanded Wrote:  Glad I'm not the only person who has had some fun with this new tool they put out recently.

Honestly, it makes me sad to go back in put in the games we should of won.

(02-07-2014 09:35 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-06-2014 11:22 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-06-2014 11:16 PM)STexMiner Wrote:  9:30 Eastern against Marshall on CBSSN.

Great! Thanks. I owe you a beer.

Oh by the way, you'll probably win but you do know that I'll be rooting for Marshall.

I want UTEP and USM and LT to win the rest of the way. Problem is UTEP plays at USM but you know what I mean. The top 3 need to have a lot of wins down the stretch just in case we can get a second team in as an at large selection. A long shot but that's are only chance.

Ha ha ha! nice sig! I was trying to figure out how to edit this post for about 2 minutes! I'm an effing moron.

(02-07-2014 10:39 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 10:24 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Show me what the formula is please...

RPI = (WP * 0.25) + (OWP * 0.50) + (OOWP * 0.25)

WP = Winning Percentage
OWP = Opponents' Winning Percentage
OOWP = Opponents of Opponents' Winning Percentage

WP should be AWP (adjusted winning percentage)

Is strange that a southern miss athletic dept employee, that eschewed a RPI inner working knowledge base, and got paid for it!!!!!!!!, would ask this question.

(02-07-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 10:24 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Show me what the formula is please...

RPI = (WP * 0.25) + (OWP * 0.50) + (OOWP * 0.25)
WP = Winning Percentage
OWP = Opponents' Winning Percentage
OOWP = Opponents of Opponents' Winning Percentage

It's clear to anyone with the least bit of a math background that 75% of the formula is weighted to the schools/conference who have a Duke, Syracuse, Ohio St., UCLA, etc. within their conference. A school within a weaker conference will be significantly underscored v. a team in a stronger conference due to the continual compounding of the OWP and OOWP. Add to this the kick-start of the B1G v. ACC challenge and other similar scheduling and you really have little chance to get a significant number of schools above the 100 ranking. You do have schools in any one year, like Witchita St., who make huge runs to pull their conferences up but I think it's clear to see that those opportunities are few and far between.

If I were a G5 administrator, or any D1 hoops conference administrator, I would try to form a coalition of other non-P5 conferences to lobby the NCAA (who we all know is significantly controlled by the P5) to increase the weighting of the (A)WP and reduce the O/OWP within the formula to get a fairer valuation of the other 250 schools that play D1 basketball. After all, that formula is not written in stone; someone had to derive it that way for what ever reasons. ( $$$ and control)

Just like the British in India, one day their going to realise that they're significantly outnumbered.

(02-07-2014 02:47 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 10:24 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Show me what the formula is please...

RPI = (WP * 0.25) + (OWP * 0.50) + (OOWP * 0.25)
WP = Winning Percentage
OWP = Opponents' Winning Percentage
OOWP = Opponents of Opponents' Winning Percentage

It's clear to anyone with the least bit of a math background that 75% of the formula is weighted to the schools/conference who have a Duke, Syracuse, Ohio St., UCLA, etc. within their conference. A school within a weaker conference will be significantly underscored v. a team in a stronger conference due to the continual compounding of the OWP and OOWP. Add to this the kick-start of the B1G v. ACC challenge and other similar scheduling and you really have little chance to get a significant number of schools above the 100 ranking. You do have schools in any one year, like Witchita St., who make huge runs to pull their conferences up but I think it's clear to see that those opportunities are few and far between.

If I were a G5 administrator, or any D1 hoops conference administrator, I would try to form a coalition of other non-P5 conferences to lobby the NCAA (who we all know is significantly controlled by the P5) to increase the weighting of the (A)WP and reduce the O/OWP within the formula to get a fairer valuation of the other 250 schools that play D1 basketball. After all, that formula is not written in stone; someone had to derive it that way for what ever reasons. ( $$$ and control)

Just like the British in India, one day their going to realise that they're significantly outnumbered.

yet we started finished in top 35 last couple of years (ain't lookin' it up, but I'm close)

nailed the perception value of things though....that was my fear last year with our final RPI value getting no respect....welcome to the conference

Thanks for the info.

Tulane doing pretty well against[/i] Charlotte so far.

I really don't understand some of these teams this season (Charlotte, UAB)

Good win Tulane

(02-07-2014 09:21 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  I really don't understand some of these teams this season (Charlotte, UAB)

Another embarrassing loss by Charlotte. Just a ridiculous performance. Tulane is terrible.

Which means Charlotte is even worse. They easily have 6 losses they have no excuse for. What a miserable program right now.

Interesting start in Hattiesburg.

Tulane is terrible against teams with strong inside games. And if they couple that with pressing us and wearing us out, they maul us.
But Tulane has 3 good guards and decent enough shooters to hang with everyone else on most nights. Thus 4-4 in league play.

Marshall up 11 at half.

Marshall lost to NT by 15. NT lost to Tulane by 9. USM smoked Tulane by too many to count.

...so how is Marshall - a team that very well may lose to Tulane in a few days - taking care of USM right now?

C-USA makes no damn sense.

Charlotte is just doing a tour of the basement, trying to decide if we want to move into the spare bedroom down there.

(02-06-2014 07:07 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  If Charlotte wins at Tulane and then loses at Southern Miss, they will still improve their RPI most likely.

No dice on the Tulane game, but the 49ers still have a chance to lose at Southern Miss.

(02-07-2014 10:22 PM)DrBox Wrote:  Tulane is terrible against teams with strong inside games. And if they couple that with pressing us and wearing us out, they maul us.
But Tulane has 3 good guards and decent enough shooters to hang with everyone else on most nights. Thus 4-4 in league play.

Precisely.

(02-07-2014 10:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Marshall lost to NT by 15. NT lost to Tulane by 9. USM smoked Tulane by too many to count.

...so how is Marshall - a team that very well may lose to Tulane in a few days - taking care of USM right now?

C-USA makes no damn sense.

If this was the Big 10, it would be "look how great teams there are and how deep this league is."

(02-07-2014 10:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Marshall lost to NT by 15 at home. NT lost to Tulane by 9 at home. USM smoked Tulane by too many to count.

...so how is Marshall - a team that very well may lose to Tulane in a few days - taking care of USM right now?

C-USA makes no damn sense.