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LOL! No kidding here more than anyone b1tching about it and the says he doesn't llive here?

(02-07-2014 07:25 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Will not be too long before he is arguing with offline bulletin boards at his age.

HEY - that was a shot! ...Was that a shot?

(02-07-2014 07:54 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  PJ did a great job recruiting. Pat on the back, good job. He still has to prove that he can develop and coach. I don't hate the guy. He says great things 98% of the time. But he made alot of mistakes up to this point. If those get corrected and he wins I will be there ever step of the way and will give him the credit when he does. My major problems with him happened during the season and the fact that he has had to learn on the job. He has learned somethings along the way which was seen by how many times he had to back track on stuff. Just don't keep making the same mistakes. It's not personal with me and PJ other than this is the program I gave my health to and don't want to see flounder because he can't develop talent and coach. We have checked off that he can recruit talent. Now we hopefully don't hear from him until spring ball and we can re-evaluate at that point, atleast a little bit.

Amen.

(02-08-2014 09:07 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 07:54 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  PJ did a great job recruiting. Pat on the back, good job. He still has to prove that he can develop and coach. I don't hate the guy. He says great things 98% of the time. But he made alot of mistakes up to this point. If those get corrected and he wins I will be there ever step of the way and will give him the credit when he does. My major problems with him happened during the season and the fact that he has had to learn on the job. He has learned somethings along the way which was seen by how many times he had to back track on stuff. Just don't keep making the same mistakes. It's not personal with me and PJ other than this is the program I gave my health to and don't want to see flounder because he can't develop talent and coach. We have checked off that he can recruit talent. Now we hopefully don't hear from him until spring ball and we can re-evaluate at that point, atleast a little bit.

Amen.

^this

If you said it like that yesterday, I prolly wouldn't have gotten all ridiculous. Good talk fellas.

(02-08-2014 09:55 AM)EA3 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 09:07 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 07:54 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  PJ did a great job recruiting. Pat on the back, good job. He still has to prove that he can develop and coach. I don't hate the guy. He says great things 98% of the time. But he made alot of mistakes up to this point. If those get corrected and he wins I will be there ever step of the way and will give him the credit when he does. My major problems with him happened during the season and the fact that he has had to learn on the job. He has learned somethings along the way which was seen by how many times he had to back track on stuff. Just don't keep making the same mistakes. It's not personal with me and PJ other than this is the program I gave my health to and don't want to see flounder because he can't develop talent and coach. We have checked off that he can recruit talent. Now we hopefully don't hear from him until spring ball and we can re-evaluate at that point, atleast a little bit.

Amen.

^this

If you said it like that yesterday, I prolly wouldn't have gotten all ridiculous. Good talk fellas.

I am a numbers guy and love statistics and probability. I was dissecting some things for WMU, NIU and Toledo and here is what I found:

The rankings on Scout are subjective in nature. Western Michigan has a lot of three star recruits. However when you dissect things further the 12 kids they recruited and signed from Michigan had very little interest from AQ schools. In fact only two received offers from AQ schools. Drilling down further I found that WMU had seven total kids that received some AQ offers, Toledo six and NIU six. I have more faith that the college coaches know who is really better then a couple of analysts. In fact none of the WMU recruits from Michigan received any offers from Michigan State or Michigan. NIU and Toledo each have six kids from FL. WMU has two. It just leads me to believe that the quality of the Michigan kids overall wasn't there? If so, then how come they weren't heavily recruited. NIU signed one kid from Michigan and Toledo signed none. Are you telling me that PJ Fleck knows something that none of the other schools do? Is he that awesome?

(02-08-2014 09:06 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 07:25 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Will not be too long before he is arguing with offline bulletin boards at his age.

HEY - that was a shot! ...Was that a shot?

YES. at least somebody noticed...

(02-08-2014 09:55 AM)EA3 Wrote:  If you said it like that yesterday, I prolly wouldn't have gotten all ridiculous. Good talk fellas.

Same stuff I've been writing all along, EA. You were just so giddy about our recruiting that you went off the deep end at a perceived slight.

(02-08-2014 10:01 AM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 09:06 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 07:25 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Will not be too long before he is arguing with offline bulletin boards at his age.

HEY - that was a shot! ...Was that a shot?

YES. at least somebody noticed...

That's because I thought I was the target.

Kimbo said it much better. Not even close.

(02-08-2014 10:15 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Kimbo said it much better. Not even close.

Ouch. You really cut me to the quick with that one.

Now you're a literary critic too.

Pull your claws back in, Missy.

(02-08-2014 10:30 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:15 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Kimbo said it much better. Not even close.

Ouch. You really cut me to the quick with that one.

Now you're a literary critic too.

Pull your claws back in, Missy.

Awww, he has a crush on Kimbo. You Hoople? Not so much!

Never minded Kimbo... Hoople just seems like a d***

(02-08-2014 10:42 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Never minded Kimbo... Hoople just seems like a d***

"I can't understand what I did to piss everyone off here" - Persky ten minutes ago.

Been called a lot worse by lot better men than you.

(02-08-2014 10:43 AM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:42 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Never minded Kimbo... Hoople just seems like a d***

"I can't understand what I did to piss everyone off here" - Persky ten minutes ago.

Yes, because like I said it started a long time ago.

No problems here, just don't get it.

(02-08-2014 10:43 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Been called a lot worse by lot better men than you.

Men being key.

(02-08-2014 10:45 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:43 AM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

(02-08-2014 10:42 AM)BandBronco13 Wrote:  Never minded Kimbo... Hoople just seems like a d***

"I can't understand what I did to piss everyone off here" - Persky ten minutes ago.

Yes, because like I said it started a long time ago.

No problems here, just don't get it.

Don't you worry your pretty little head dear, I'm sure your insanity workout classes this afternoon will ease your stress about this.

(02-07-2014 06:41 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Nick Saban on what determines how good a recruiting class it:

Quote:"That gets determined by their performance, and how they develop, and how they continue to develop down the road, which we as a coaching staff are responsible for. That's what we are here for."

Nobody is going to disagree on this, but who has the last four #1 recruiting classes in the country?

(02-08-2014 05:35 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 06:41 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Nick Saban on what determines how good a recruiting class it:

Quote:"That gets determined by their performance, and how they develop, and how they continue to develop down the road, which we as a coaching staff are responsible for. That's what we are here for."

Nobody is going to disagree on this, but who has the last four #1 recruiting classes in the country?

Correct and something like 7 of the last 8 but getting them is just the first step. If you don't fit into the "program" then you don't last long. They have gotten good players but they also develop them. Their strength coach is a maniac. He has a video they play at the beginning of the 4th quarter and the place goes nuts. Their off season program is called "The 4th quarter program", I used a variation of it during my coaching career.