(02-04-2014 11:31 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 11:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

Lose a close game in front of a full house.

No seriously, its a regular season game...while it has some impact on the standing, the only way you make the NCAA's is stringing some wins together in Mid march. If you played a classic game, lost in a close one thanks to another RJ Hunter circus shot in front of 5,000 people, I bet those 5K would walk away impressed and start talking about coming back to another game.

If you win by 10 in front of 800 people, it might be great, but the people who read the box score in the paper the next morning are going to assume that Georgia State is your typical talentless Sun Belt Program, and wonder why you didn't beat them by more.

So would you prefer for UALR to win or lose?

Okay, if I ran the world for one day I would choose UALR losing 80-78 in front of 5600 rabid fans as opposed to winning 64-54 in front of 800. We have lost a few hundred games since I have been a fan- one more won't change anything. We have never truly filled the Stephens Center since we moved in. I think doing that would bigger for the long term good of our program. The reality is, if we had a full house, our chances of actually winning would go up greatly.

(02-05-2014 12:02 AM)mjs Wrote:  Okay, if I ran the world for one day I would choose UALR losing 80-78 in front of 5600 rabid fans as opposed to winning 64-54 in front of 800. We have lost a few hundred games since I have been a fan- one more won't change anything.

If you could guarantee it would be for just one game, I would go along with that. Our fans need to get to feel what a full house feels like. But since all this is fictitious, anyway . . .

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:27 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:21 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 05:00 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Wouldn't it be a crying shame if somehow we did manage to beat GSU and there were the usual 800 people there?

Better than losing before a full house.

I seriously disagree with that statement!

I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

Jim, none of us here are rooting to lose.

I want us to win, even if we have to make changes in the off season.


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(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:27 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:21 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  Better than losing before a full house.

I seriously disagree with that statement!

I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:27 PM)PTJR Wrote:  I seriously disagree with that statement!

I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

I felt like Ync's actual point was that some folks may be rooting for us to lose because that meets their agenda. I have no idea if that is true or not (except for folks who "hide" on the private board). I also don't know if that is what he meant or not. Just my interpretation.

Full house or not...

(02-05-2014 09:56 AM)mjs Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

I felt like Ync's actual point was that some folks may be rooting for us to lose because that meets their agenda. I have no idea if that is true or not (except for folks who "hide" on the private board). I also don't know if that is what he meant or not. Just my interpretation.

MJS- Do you really believe that anyone who regularly posts on this board actually wants the Trojans to lose? Come on!

(02-05-2014 12:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  MJS- Do you really believe that anyone who regularly posts on this board actually wants the Trojans to lose? Come on!

I don't think that is the point. Of course we do not want to lose. But if we could have a choice (which, of course, we cannot), and we could have one absolutely packed house, but it would cost us one loss to have it, it would be worth it to the program in the long run. That is the point.

(02-05-2014 12:14 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 12:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  MJS- Do you really believe that anyone who regularly posts on this board actually wants the Trojans to lose? Come on!

I don't think that is the point. Of course we do not want to lose. But if we could have a choice (which, of course, we cannot), and we could have one absolutely packed house, but it would cost us one loss to have it, it would be worth it to the program in the long run. That is the point.

That was my point as well.

(02-05-2014 12:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:56 AM)mjs Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

I felt like Ync's actual point was that some folks may be rooting for us to lose because that meets their agenda. I have no idea if that is true or not (except for folks who "hide" on the private board). I also don't know if that is what he meant or not. Just my interpretation.

MJS- Do you really believe that anyone who regularly posts on this board actually wants the Trojans to lose? Come on!

I assume that's a rhetorical question.

(02-05-2014 12:56 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 12:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:56 AM)mjs Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

I felt like Ync's actual point was that some folks may be rooting for us to lose because that meets their agenda. I have no idea if that is true or not (except for folks who "hide" on the private board). I also don't know if that is what he meant or not. Just my interpretation.

MJS- Do you really believe that anyone who regularly posts on this board actually wants the Trojans to lose? Come on!

I assume that's a rhetorical question.

Well I'm not sure. You spoke of posters with an agenda, so I didn't know what to make of that. I understand Michaelspappy's post about one loss for a packed house, but I don't think that is the type of "agenda" you were referring to.

(02-05-2014 12:56 PM)mjs Wrote:  I assume that's a rhetorical question.

More like a fairy tale question for us.

I think he was just finally firing back at Scotto for all the potshots he's been taking at him on the private board. Just responding to the bullying is all.

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:27 PM)PTJR Wrote:  I seriously disagree with that statement!

I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

Huh???

(02-05-2014 06:31 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 08:30 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  I have been talking a long time about my being someone who can't bring himself to root for us to lose. Whatever.

What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

Huh???

Huh back at ya!

(02-05-2014 10:23 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 06:31 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:26 AM)PTJR Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:48 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 10:03 PM)PTJR Wrote:  What the hell has that got to do with attendance?

Pick one:

(A). Win in front of 800
(B). Lose before a full house.


Ok, now, everyone feel free to vote. Peter disagrees with my statement that beating GSU before a crowd of 800 would be better than losing before a full house. Tell me whether you root for us to win or lose.

I didn't say losing was better. But, if you get a, full house and even lose, if you play hard and are entertaining, some of those fans will be back next time to watch you win. It's what a successful program does- tries to build attendance. You and our administration apparently believe in the tree falling in the woods so who knows or cares philosophy.

Huh???

Huh back at ya!

What? Not a nanny nanny boo boo?