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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
Not our MVP but maybe our "DJ" type guy for this season. He may not have the acrobatics but he does have the attitude. I always loved the work DJ did diving to the floor as much as the work he did above the rim. Pellom brings that same drive.
(02-02-2014 12:34 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Pellom is our MVP now?
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 01:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-02-2014 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote: I still want him back asap.
Absolutely.
To me the SMU game was MUCH worse than UC. The UC game was a 2 point game with left than 11 minutes to play. UC then began to pull away slowly, but it was still as close as 7 points with 6:49 to play. There is still a reasonable chance to win that game at home with that much time.
Cincy finally got a double digit lead (58-47) with 4:59 to play. We cut it to 9 with 4:29 and again with 3:37 to play. It then got out of hand the last few minutes
SMU, on the other hand, got ugly quick. They ended the 1st half on a run and then came out and totally dominated us in the 2nd half.
Both games had similar scoring differentials, but I think the SMU game was much worse than the final score. Conversely, I think the UC game was much closer than the final score would indicate.
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Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 01:36 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (02-02-2014 01:35 PM)GringoStarr Wrote: implied
lol
Just stop
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 06:21 PM)lenetzach Wrote: We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 07:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 06:21 PM)lenetzach Wrote: We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 08:23 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 07:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 06:21 PM)lenetzach Wrote: We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 08:26 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:23 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 07:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 06:21 PM)lenetzach Wrote: We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
Just think that's this team's biggest weakness
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 08:35 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:26 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:23 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 07:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 06:21 PM)lenetzach Wrote: We were not "run" by Cinci - that is a silly thing to say
He is not the MVP, but he is a glue guy that can get stops and boards when needed.
They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
Just think that's this team's biggest weakness
We've got 5 seniors, 3 of which came from different programs either last year or the year before. Basketball IQ isn't the issue, I don't think.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
My god, this is stupid.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 10:18 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:35 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:26 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:23 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 07:32 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: They beat us by double digits at home. It's arguably the most humbling loss of the season. We got run.
He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
Just think that's this team's biggest weakness
We've got 5 seniors, 3 of which came from different programs either last year or the year before. Basketball IQ isn't the issue, I don't think.
agreed
Defensive is the issue.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 11:15 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote: (02-02-2014 10:18 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:35 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:26 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:23 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: He brings basketball IQ. Sorely needed.
Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
Just think that's this team's biggest weakness
We've got 5 seniors, 3 of which came from different programs either last year or the year before. Basketball IQ isn't the issue, I don't think.
agreed
Defensive is the issue.
You also need bball IQ on defense. drawing charges, good fouls vs. dumb fouls. There are NBA vets with low bball IQ. Have witnessed Rudy Gay for years. There are freshmen with high bball IQ. Some are born with it. Some learn it. Some never get it.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 11:55 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 11:15 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote: (02-02-2014 10:18 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:35 PM)cvilletiger Wrote: (02-02-2014 08:26 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: Basketball IQ but more importantly, interior defense and contagious energy. Pellom is sort of the DJ Stephens of this year; they're not exactly the same type of player, but they both fill a similar role.
Just think that's this team's biggest weakness
We've got 5 seniors, 3 of which came from different programs either last year or the year before. Basketball IQ isn't the issue, I don't think.
agreed
Defensive is the issue.
You also need bball IQ on defense. drawing charges, good fouls vs. dumb fouls. There are NBA vets with low bball IQ. Have witnessed Rudy Gay for years. There are freshmen with high bball IQ. Some are born with it. Some learn it. Some never get it.
Pellom is very good and seems to make very good decisions regularly.
The real reason his absence affected the game so much is that JP played zone for so long to protect Shaq from foul trouble. It was the zone Defense that lead to so many offensive rebounds. Had Pellom been available I sure hope we would have played more man to man D which would have put us in better position to rebound. Everyone blocks out their guy, in a zone you have to find the nearest body, sometimes two guys block out one guy. It is pretty much known that it is easier to get offensive rebounds against a zone.
We really do not have much experience with a zone as a team, I would bet that most of our team has been playing man since high school. Maybe Austin played some zone.
I can't fault JP for going zone, he was trying to protect Shaq. It did not help our cause though that is for sure.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-02-2014 11:21 AM)NJ1 Wrote: The two games we've looked absolutely horrible in were games where he did not play.
It's hard to overstate his importance, in my view.
+10 Pellom ads so many intangibles to the game......including what he does that everyone can see
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith · 26m
Pellom's got what CJP calls "an old man's (left) knee" after 3 surgeries on it over career. Will be a major blow if he misses multiple games
@TheCAJasonSmith: Interesting. Pastner says he doubts Pellom will practice the rest of the year.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-03-2014 04:45 PM)80sTiger Wrote: L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith · 26m
Pellom's got what CJP calls "an old man's (left) knee" after 3 surgeries on it over career. Will be a major blow if he misses multiple games
@TheCAJasonSmith: Interesting. Pastner says he doubts Pellom will practice the rest of the year.
Hope not. Thats for sure.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-03-2014 04:45 PM)80sTiger Wrote: L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith · 26m
Pellom's got what CJP calls "an old man's (left) knee" after 3 surgeries on it over career. Will be a major blow if he misses multiple games
@TheCAJasonSmith: Interesting. Pastner says he doubts Pellom will practice the rest of the year.
Damn....not good
Hope he is ok.
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RE: Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
(02-03-2014 04:58 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote: (02-03-2014 04:45 PM)80sTiger Wrote: L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith · 26m
Pellom's got what CJP calls "an old man's (left) knee" after 3 surgeries on it over career. Will be a major blow if he misses multiple games
@TheCAJasonSmith: Interesting. Pastner says he doubts Pellom will practice the rest of the year.
Hope not. Thats for sure.
If he can play I can live without the practice. come limping out like Willis Reed.
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Maybe Pellom is more important than we realized
As i understand it DJ didn't practice much last year for similar reasons but still played
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