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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 10:26 AM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 03:34 AM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:06 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  
(02-01-2014 11:52 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Several of those are just silly imo. Some though are right on the money.

Or problems are about defense. PERIOD

Offensively, we are pretty darn strong.

What offense? We chuck and miss 3's. For the life of me I have no idea what kind of offense we are ever running. Players are out of position all the time. We drive a midget into three defenders with no where to go all the time. We don't feed the ball inside enough. Our FT shooting is horrid. Not too strong imo.

Lets not even talk about the defense.

Our offensive numbers are some of the best in the nation.

Its hard to understand what you are talking about here.

Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Those rankings and numbers are horrific..I watched One player in particular yesterday after I knew that the game was out of reach..Nick King should be playing much more than he is IMO..That guy hustles his butt off..If half our guys hustled and put forth the effort he does this team would be much better..NK has a lot of learning to do but dadgum I'd take someone like him any day of the week just because of his heart and effort..He would probably average 8 to 10 rebounds a game just on effort alone..He definitely goes after rebounds and has a Knack for the ball..


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yep. A lot of us see it. Kid has a motor. Josh doesn't for whatever reason.
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The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 10:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:26 AM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 03:34 AM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:06 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  What offense? We chuck and miss 3's. For the life of me I have no idea what kind of offense we are ever running. Players are out of position all the time. We drive a midget into three defenders with no where to go all the time. We don't feed the ball inside enough. Our FT shooting is horrid. Not too strong imo.

Lets not even talk about the defense.

Our offensive numbers are some of the best in the nation.

Its hard to understand what you are talking about here.

Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Those rankings and numbers are horrific..I watched One player in particular yesterday after I knew that the game was out of reach..Nick King should be playing much more than he is IMO..That guy hustles his butt off..If half our guys hustled and put forth the effort he does this team would be much better..NK has a lot of learning to do but dadgum I'd take someone like him any day of the week just because of his heart and effort..He would probably average 8 to 10 rebounds a game just on effort alone..He definitely goes after rebounds and has a Knack for the ball..


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yep. A lot of us see it. Kid has a motor. Josh doesn't for whatever reason.

I agree on King. Iverson should be playing as well. They're no more lost on the court than any of the starters or any of our seniors.
02-02-2014 10:36 AM
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 10:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:26 AM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 03:34 AM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:06 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  What offense? We chuck and miss 3's. For the life of me I have no idea what kind of offense we are ever running. Players are out of position all the time. We drive a midget into three defenders with no where to go all the time. We don't feed the ball inside enough. Our FT shooting is horrid. Not too strong imo.

Lets not even talk about the defense.

Our offensive numbers are some of the best in the nation.

Its hard to understand what you are talking about here.

Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Those rankings and numbers are horrific..I watched One player in particular yesterday after I knew that the game was out of reach..Nick King should be playing much more than he is IMO..That guy hustles his butt off..If half our guys hustled and put forth the effort he does this team would be much better..NK has a lot of learning to do but dadgum I'd take someone like him any day of the week just because of his heart and effort..He would probably average 8 to 10 rebounds a game just on effort alone..He definitely goes after rebounds and has a Knack for the ball..


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yep. A lot of us see it. Kid has a motor. Josh doesn't for whatever reason.

He doesn't cause he's stuck on giving these 4 guards all the minutes no matter who we play...I read king sometimes will have defensive lapses and may look lost out there ever so often but I've seen plenty of the guards that look lost just as lost and even hanging their heads when things don't go their way a lot of times too and they're freakin seniors!
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
You forgot missed free throws. Amazing that D1players cannot make free throws; a few easy baskets could have changed the outcomes of a few games this year.
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.
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The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
(02-02-2014 01:10 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.

Exactly!
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(02-02-2014 01:10 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.

I didn't say we would be fine. I just don't think this board is going to solve our problems because we have to many different reasons on what our coach should do. I just hope our recruits don't read this board because of all the hate that some of the posters have toward Pastner. He is not perfect but our loses haven't been to bad teams. Do I want us to win every game- yes.Is it possible-no. We all wanted in a better league. We are in one and we need to realize that and stop wanted a new coach every time we loose.
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(02-02-2014 01:38 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:10 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.

I didn't say we would be fine. I just don't think this board is going to solve our problems because we have to many different reasons on what our coach should do. I just hope our recruits don't read this board because of all the hate that some of the posters have toward Pastner. He is not perfect but our loses haven't been to bad teams. Do I want us to win every game- yes.Is it possible-no. We all wanted in a better league. We are in one and we need to realize that and stop wanted a new coach every time we loose.

Losing a road game is understandable [to a degree], but consequences come with getting curb stomped on national TV.
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Maybe this is the year we have to learn how to play a tough conference schedule. Before this, there were only a couple of games we even had to worry about in cusa. Now we have to have no lapses in almost every game. I don't think we have trained the habit of bringing it every night because even if the coaches preached it, the players knew better. They now have a bad habit ingrained (especially the seniors, You know somewhere in their brain they said "It's only SMU" even though this is not what was we would have considered a "normal" SMU team in years past).




(02-02-2014 01:42 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:38 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:10 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.

I didn't say we would be fine. I just don't think this board is going to solve our problems because we have to many different reasons on what our coach should do. I just hope our recruits don't read this board because of all the hate that some of the posters have toward Pastner. He is not perfect but our loses haven't been to bad teams. Do I want us to win every game- yes.Is it possible-no. We all wanted in a better league. We are in one and we need to realize that and stop wanted a new coach every time we loose.

Losing a road game is understandable [to a degree], but consequences come with getting curb stomped on national TV.
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RE: The things that drive me nuts about this team
Maybe this is the year we have to learn how to play a tough conference schedule. Before this, there were only a couple of games we even had to worry about in cusa. Now we have to have no lapses in almost every game. I don't think we have trained the habit of bringing it every night because even if the coaches preached it, the players knew better. They now have a bad habit ingrained (especially the seniors, You know somewhere in their brain they said "It's only SMU" even though this is not what was we would have considered a "normal" SMU team in years past).




(02-02-2014 01:42 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:38 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 01:10 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:11 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

Again, I think we need to fire all of our basketball and football coaches because we have so many coaches on this board. If you read the posts they all have their brilliant reasons that they are better coaches. They are are probably the same one's that wanted to fire Coach call after 3 years.

You don’t have to be a coach to determine if a team is not playing well and can improve. If you can’t see it then that’s your bad IMHO. As long as there are sports there will always be discussions & suggestions of them whether on a message board or elsewhere.

If you’re one of the “We’ll be Fine” crowd then it’s cool by me. That’s your opinion and I respect it. But at the same time don’t knock me if I disagree and don’t think we’re fine. Yesterday's game is a prime example.

I didn't say we would be fine. I just don't think this board is going to solve our problems because we have to many different reasons on what our coach should do. I just hope our recruits don't read this board because of all the hate that some of the posters have toward Pastner. He is not perfect but our loses haven't been to bad teams. Do I want us to win every game- yes.Is it possible-no. We all wanted in a better league. We are in one and we need to realize that and stop wanted a new coach every time we loose.

Losing a road game is understandable [to a degree], but consequences come with getting curb stomped on national TV.
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(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Yesterday we went 6-24 (25%) from 3 and of the 4 players who shot 3’s, Dixon was the ONLY one who hit more than 1.

Geron: 1-7
Joe: 1-4
Chris: 1-6
Dixon: 3-7

Of our 24 three point shots we missed 18. Our inability to make the 3 ball consistently is not only a key to most of our losses, it is why some of our wins have been so close. If our guards can’t hit 3’s then why do we have 3-4 of them in the game at the same time?

1. Time to try playing 2 guards at a time. They will be fresher and won’t have to reserve their energy as much. We probably could press more.
2. Time to throw King/Iverson/Wilson into the fire at the SF and determine which one will be the best in certain situations. Work with them very hard so they are dependable by the AAC tourney.
3. Keep giving Big Dom PT too. He did get a much needed 11 rebounds yesterday. He needs to be ready when we need him.
4. Play inside-out and don’t give up on it so easily when teams try to stop it. When teams sag we should continue to pop the post. We may not get easy looks but the numbers say it’s better than us jack’in up 3’s.

Our main problem on defense is stopping penetration. The way you stop it is to stay in front of your man or area of containment. With that said I’m open for suggestions. Our perimeter players seem to get beat too easily and too often with the help usually late.

yes, yes, and yes. Our on ball defense is very odd. It looks like we shade guys one way or the other quite a bit, and it opens up driving lanes that makes bigs have to step up and break down the D.
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(02-02-2014 10:55 AM)tigerderek Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:26 AM)tigergg Wrote:  
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(02-02-2014 03:34 AM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Our offensive numbers are some of the best in the nation.

Its hard to understand what you are talking about here.

Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Those rankings and numbers are horrific..I watched One player in particular yesterday after I knew that the game was out of reach..Nick King should be playing much more than he is IMO..That guy hustles his butt off..If half our guys hustled and put forth the effort he does this team would be much better..NK has a lot of learning to do but dadgum I'd take someone like him any day of the week just because of his heart and effort..He would probably average 8 to 10 rebounds a game just on effort alone..He definitely goes after rebounds and has a Knack for the ball..


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yep. A lot of us see it. Kid has a motor. Josh doesn't for whatever reason.

He doesn't cause he's stuck on giving these 4 guards all the minutes no matter who we play...I read king sometimes will have defensive lapses and may look lost out there ever so often but I've seen plenty of the guards that look lost just as lost and even hanging their heads when things don't go their way a lot of times too and they're freakin seniors!

yes, this argument on the board is driving me nuts> "We can't play King because he's lost on D" It's not like we're some well-oiled machine on D and King comes in and the wheels fall off. The bus is already driving on 4 rims shooting sparks everywhere to start with. I see no drop off between Crawford and King, or Dixon on a bigger guy and King.
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(02-02-2014 05:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:55 AM)tigerderek Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 10:26 AM)tigergg Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Those rankings and numbers are horrific..I watched One player in particular yesterday after I knew that the game was out of reach..Nick King should be playing much more than he is IMO..That guy hustles his butt off..If half our guys hustled and put forth the effort he does this team would be much better..NK has a lot of learning to do but dadgum I'd take someone like him any day of the week just because of his heart and effort..He would probably average 8 to 10 rebounds a game just on effort alone..He definitely goes after rebounds and has a Knack for the ball..


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yep. A lot of us see it. Kid has a motor. Josh doesn't for whatever reason.

He doesn't cause he's stuck on giving these 4 guards all the minutes no matter who we play...I read king sometimes will have defensive lapses and may look lost out there ever so often but I've seen plenty of the guards that look lost just as lost and even hanging their heads when things don't go their way a lot of times too and they're freakin seniors!

yes, this argument on the board is driving me nuts> "We can't play King because he's lost on D" It's not like we're some well-oiled machine on D and King comes in and the wheels fall off. The bus is already driving on 4 rims shooting sparks everywhere to start with. I see no drop off between Crawford and King, or Dixon on a bigger guy and King.

Been saying the same thing. Sure King has some learning to do, but I don't see the drop off.
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(02-01-2014 10:58 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  I agree with at least 13 of those.

I'm in with 9.
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(02-02-2014 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Ranked 272 in 3-point shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.

Ranked 323 in FT shooting. What makes that amazing is we're a guard oriented team.


HAHAHAHA!

IF you are trying to make me laugh, I was just ROTFLMAO.

We are 27th in the nation in scoring
We are 25th in the nation in FG%
We are 5th in the nation in APG
We are 10th in the nation in total assists
And we lead the NATION in points in the paint a few weeks ago.

Saying the problem is our offense is just as clueless as it gets.

I can't believe you had the gall to cherry pick those two stats and pretend they proved us to be a poor offensive team.
What a joke
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We're bipolar. You can medicate it to control it, but eventually the condition returns. It is incurable.
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(02-02-2014 05:57 PM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  We're bipolar. You can medicate it to control it, but eventually the condition returns. It is incurable.

Couldn't agree more.
That is, however, the nature of true fans, isn't it?
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