(02-02-2014 01:16 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 08:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I have no issue with someone having a basic pistol or rifle for home defense...a simple shot gun is the best home defense ever...but I see no need/reason for a citizen to have something like an AK-47, AR-15, Tec-9 style assault weapon...I mean, even in a semi-auto style their not too hard to modify into full auto.

I also fully support carry permits...but I think guns and bars don't mix (see TN)

What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial.

I never said my opinion meant jack or ****...but I can still express it.

(02-02-2014 01:33 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 01:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 01:05 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 08:47 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  but I see no need/reason for a citizen to have something like an AK-47, AR-15, Tec-9 style assault weapon...

What about a Mini-14? Am I allowed one of those, Mr. Moral High Ground?



Notice that cosmetically, it's no different than the Ruger 10/22 that I had whenever I was 10 years old.



Yet the Mini-14 (first picture) just so happens to fire the same caliber and has the same rate of fire as your so-called "assault weapons", yet has absolutely nothing "assault" about it.

Or better yet, how about an M1A in .308?



Same action as the Mini-14, same rate of fire, but MUCH more devastating. 5.56x45 is a pea shooter compared to .308/7.62x51.

You'll notice that your "assault weapon" argument quickly deteriorates whenever you come across someone that actually knows something about guns.

No, you can't, I don't like your attitude...no gun for you...come back one year.

LOL

I'd note that your argument was decimated to the point that you had to turn to sarcasm.

I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

Moreover, most are made far too mod-ready for my taste.

I mean, I carry a gun for a living...and still see no need for an assault style weapon.

You have no issue with the M-14, while it fires the same caliber and has the same rate of fire as your so-called "assault weapons", and now have expanded your argument to the legality of a piece of plastic and a spring.

Boy, oh boy.

(02-02-2014 02:46 PM)Kronke Wrote:  You have no issue with the M-14, while it fires the same caliber and has the same rate of fire as your so-called "assault weapons", and now have expanded your argument to the legality of a piece of plastic and a spring.

Boy, oh boy.

Yes, weapons are far too easy to modify...

My argument has nothing to do with caliber and never did...If you're going to "quote" me you should re-read...I said "assault style weapons"

Gun nuts...

If it has nothing to do with caliber or rate of fire, please explain to me why then an AR-15 is an "assault rifle" and an M-14 is not. And why you're perfectly okay with one but not the other, while both are functionally identical.


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(02-02-2014 02:58 PM)Kronke Wrote:  If it has nothing to do with caliber or rate of fire, please explain to me why then an AR-15 is an "assault rifle" and an M-14 is not. And why you're perfectly okay with one but not the other, while both are functionally identical.


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I said assault style weapon...as I said, some are made far too easy to modify...if you can't get it, you can't modify it.

(02-02-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:   I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:   I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

So let's legalize all drugs...since making something illegal clearly doesn't work.

(02-02-2014 02:58 PM)Kronke Wrote:  If it has nothing to do with caliber or rate of fire, please explain to me why then an AR-15 is an "assault rifle" and an M-14 is not. And why you're perfectly okay with one but not the other, while both are functionally identical.


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Until this question is answered, "assault style weapons" is a useless political phrase.

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(02-02-2014 03:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:   I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

So let's legalize all drugs...since making something illegal clearly doesn't work.

Sure. I'll take my kid into a field and teach him how to shoot targets.

You can take your kid into a field and teach him how to shoot heroin.

Do we have a deal?

(02-02-2014 03:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:   I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

So let's legalize all drugs...since making something illegal clearly doesn't work.

Sure. I'll take my kid into a field and teach him how to shoot targets.

You can take your kid into a field and teach him how to shoot heroin.

Do we have a deal?

So your for the full legalization of drugs? Just want to get that on record.

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

(02-02-2014 03:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

So you didn't say "What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial."

(02-02-2014 03:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

So you didn't say "What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial."

Calling your opinion immaterial =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

(02-02-2014 03:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

So you didn't say "What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial."

Calling your opinion immaterial =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

Then why say it? Your opinion is just as worthless as mine...

(02-02-2014 03:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I guess I'm not allowed a personal opinion...I mean, I have a carry permit, several guns, carry a gun to work...so I'm clearly the enemy of gun rights. lol

Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

So you didn't say "What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial."

Calling your opinion immaterial =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

Then why say it? Your opinion is just as worthless as mine...

So, now I don't get an opinion?

(02-02-2014 03:19 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pointing out that you're wrong =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

So you didn't say "What you "see no need/reason for" is immaterial."

Calling your opinion immaterial =/= saying you don't get an opinion.

Then why say it? Your opinion is just as worthless as mine...

So, now I don't get an opinion?

Of course not.

(02-02-2014 03:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 02:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:   I have no issue with those weapons as long as you can't legally can't get a magazine that holds more than a few rounds.

And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

So let's legalize all drugs...since making something illegal clearly doesn't work.

Sure. I'll take my kid into a field and teach him how to shoot targets.

You can take your kid into a field and teach him how to shoot heroin.

Do we have a deal?

So your for the full legalization of drugs? Just want to get that on record.

No, I'm not for the full legalization of drugs. How many crimes were committed in the name of drug addiction as opposed to gun addiction?

More people died from drug overdoses than gun shots, either intentional, accidental, or suicide. In 2010 62% of all gun deaths were suicides. In 2010 there were more than 38,000 overdose deaths with most of them being accidental.

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-i...tatistics/
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(02-02-2014 03:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 03:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  And that's were you just separated regular folks from criminals. The average Joe who is harmless will be deprived of something your typical gang banger will have. Why punish harmless people? If the left wants to do something about guns then why aren't they cracking down real hard on the most likely people to have them illegally and actually kill people?

Taking away something from me does absolutely nothing to stop the criminal next door.

So let's legalize all drugs...since making something illegal clearly doesn't work.

Sure. I'll take my kid into a field and teach him how to shoot targets.

You can take your kid into a field and teach him how to shoot heroin.

Do we have a deal?

So your for the full legalization of drugs? Just want to get that on record.

No, I'm not for the full legalization of drugs. How many crimes were committed in the name of drug addiction as opposed to gun addiction?

More people died from drug overdoses than gun shots, either intentional, accidental, or suicide. In 2010 62% of all gun deaths were suicides. In 2010 there were more than 38,000 overdose deaths with most of them being accidental.

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-i...tatistics/
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And there were 31,672 deaths from firearm injuries in 2010...are you saying ones "better" than the other.