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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 03:52 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
You guys were going to be top 4 and competing for the conference title this offseason. Top 5 in the AAC? Nope.
Did you read the thread?
We have a top 25 pg, a sf/pf that put up 50 the other day, and a juco pf/c guy coming in. Add that to a FSU transfer that was Mr. Basketball in the state of NC his senior year.
And 2 transfers that I believe are post players.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
I think next year is too soon to expect that.
Maybe 2 years from now IMO.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:00 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:52 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
You guys were going to be top 4 and competing for the conference title this offseason. Top 5 in the AAC? Nope.
Did you read the thread?
We have a top 25 pg, a sf/pf that put up 50 the other day, and a juco pf/c guy coming in. Add that to a FSU transfer that was Mr. Basketball in the state of NC his senior year.
And 2 transfers that I believe are post players.
I've learned many times not to expect a freshman to be a program changer. If Tejada is year 1, great for you guys, but chances are he'll be a contributor, but not an all-conference level player his first year.
Whisnant was a part time starter at FSU and averaged 5.2ppg. Respectable, but no reason to suspect he'll suddenly become a 15ppg player.
Year 2 in the AAC gives you a Tejada with another year of experience, a senior Whisnant, a senior Guilmette, a junior Stith, a junior White, and probably some other guys I don't really know anything about.
That is a team that could be a top 5 AAC team, I just don't see it for next year though.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
I think ECU could contend for 5th in the AAC next year. UCONN, Cincy, Memphis, and SMU are going to be really good, but after those 4 assuming everyone I expect to be here is here (big assumption after the turmoil this year) we'll have the talent to compete with everyone else in the league. Of course no one on this board is going to believe that, and that's fine.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
I think SJ has reinvented himself. Anyone else see it?
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:00 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:52 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
You guys were going to be top 4 and competing for the conference title this offseason. Top 5 in the AAC? Nope.
Did you read the thread?
We have a top 25 pg, a sf/pf that put up 50 the other day, and a juco pf/c guy coming in. Add that to a FSU transfer that was Mr. Basketball in the state of NC his senior year.
And 2 transfers that I believe are post players.
Did you realize you are 0-6 in conference play this year? I'm not saying ECU won't be better, because I think they will, but top 5 is a stretch. The top 4 are pretty much locked in, so you will be the one team that finishes next in line? I just don't see it next year.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I think ECU could contend for 5th in the AAC next year. UCONN, Cincy, Memphis, and SMU are going to be really good, but after those 4 assuming everyone I expect to be here is here (big assumption after the turmoil this year) we'll have the talent to compete with everyone else in the league. Of course no one on this board is going to believe that, and that's fine.
It's not out of the question, I would just be surprised to see it. I do think ECU is positioned well for their 2nd and 3rd years in the AAC though.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:07 PM)Niner National Wrote: (01-31-2014 04:00 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:52 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
You guys were going to be top 4 and competing for the conference title this offseason. Top 5 in the AAC? Nope.
Did you read the thread?
We have a top 25 pg, a sf/pf that put up 50 the other day, and a juco pf/c guy coming in. Add that to a FSU transfer that was Mr. Basketball in the state of NC his senior year.
And 2 transfers that I believe are post players.
I've learned many times not to expect a freshman to be a program changer. If Tejada is year 1, great for you guys, but chances are he'll be a contributor, but not an all-conference level player his first year.
Whisnant was a part time starter at FSU and averaged 5.2ppg. Respectable, but no reason to suspect he'll suddenly become a 15ppg player.
Year 2 in the AAC gives you a Tejada with another year of experience, a senior Whisnant, a senior Guilmette, a junior Stith, a junior White, and probably some other guys I don't really know anything about.
That is a team that could be a top 5 AAC team, I just don't see it for next year though.
Guilmette would be a JR, because of medical RS. And I wouldn't be saying mark it down if it wasnt bold
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:12 PM)MUsince96 Wrote: I think SJ has reinvented himself. Anyone else see it?
I was thinking exactly the same thing. The dude was trolling over on our boards this pm and it reeked of SJ.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
Agree with folks who have said that Lebo gets a pass for this year. But next year is another story.
Ed Conroy at Tulane is on thin ice, too. It looks like he will just barely get by, but unless there is a dramatic infusion of new talent in the next 10 months, then Tulane MBB will get absolutely crushed next year and then he will have to move on. We'll see.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:20 PM)Niner National Wrote: (01-31-2014 04:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I think ECU could contend for 5th in the AAC next year. UCONN, Cincy, Memphis, and SMU are going to be really good, but after those 4 assuming everyone I expect to be here is here (big assumption after the turmoil this year) we'll have the talent to compete with everyone else in the league. Of course no one on this board is going to believe that, and that's fine.
It's not out of the question, I would just be surprised to see it. I do think ECU is positioned well for their 2nd and 3rd years in the AAC though.
I agree just looking at the roster years 2 and 3 of the AAC appear to be setting up nicely. Next year is really going to depend on how good Tejada can be right away.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I think ECU could contend for 5th in the AAC next year. UCONN, Cincy, Memphis, and SMU are going to be really good, but after those 4 assuming everyone I expect to be here is here (big assumption after the turmoil this year) we'll have the talent to compete with everyone else in the league. Of course no one on this board is going to believe that, and that's fine.
I think Tulsa finishes Top 5. They have 8 of their top 10 players returning, 7 are just sophomores. And I don't even know what UCF/USF/Temple/Houston return. I would be very impressed if ECU can finish above that middle spot.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 04:12 PM)MUsince96 Wrote: I think SJ has reinvented himself. Anyone else see it?
does howdy dowdy get a ribbon?????????
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: What would USM look like if your starting small forward, power forward, center and back up center either left the team or were lost to injury during the same off season?
Off our NCAA squad two years ago we lost our two starting guards and two starting forwards along with a bench guy averaging 11pts per game. The only starter that returned was Mills (a 6'4" guy playing a post position), and we ended as a #1 seed in the NIT while completely changing the system in Tyndall's first year.
From last year's team, we lost three players that were starters at the end of the season including our leading scorer and leading rebounder. There's a lot of season left, but we've got a good shot at post-season play this season IMO.
So that's 7 starters we've lost over the past two seasons without any super duper recruiting rankings, and we're doing just fine.
It's not just USM, though. UTEP lost half their team mid-season, and they're tied for 1st place and a team likely to be playing after the conference tourney. USM and ECU both had an opportunity to recruit replacements while UTEP didn't so the "woe-is-us" argument just doesn't fly. Good coaching covers these deficiencies while bad coaching amplifies them.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 05:31 PM)istrahan Wrote: (01-31-2014 02:01 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: What would USM look like if your starting small forward, power forward, center and back up center either left the team or were lost to injury during the same off season?
Off our NCAA squad two years ago we lost our two starting guards and two starting forwards along with a bench guy averaging 11pts per game. The only starter that returned was Mills (a 6'4" guy playing a post position), and we ended as a #1 seed in the NIT while completely changing the system in Tyndall's first year.
From last year's team, we lost three players that were starters at the end of the season including our leading scorer and leading rebounder. There's a lot of season left, but we've got a good shot at post-season play this season IMO.
So that's 7 starters we've lost over the past two seasons without any super duper recruiting rankings, and we're doing just fine.
It's not just USM, though. UTEP lost half their team mid-season, and they're tied for 1st place and a team likely to be playing after the conference tourney. USM and ECU both had an opportunity to recruit replacements while UTEP didn't so the "woe-is-us" argument just doesn't fly. Good coaching covers these deficiencies while bad coaching amplifies them.
UTEP's is more closely related, because they lost people that they were expecting to have. USM didn't expect to have those folks so they were able to move on and recruit kids. ECU expected to have to recruit to replace Kemp and Paul from last year's team, but the other stuff is completely off the radar. Such is the business of college sports though.
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 05:31 PM)istrahan Wrote: (01-31-2014 02:01 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: What would USM look like if your starting small forward, power forward, center and back up center either left the team or were lost to injury during the same off season?
Off our NCAA squad two years ago we lost our two starting guards and two starting forwards along with a bench guy averaging 11pts per game. The only starter that returned was Mills (a 6'4" guy playing a post position), and we ended as a #1 seed in the NIT while completely changing the system in Tyndall's first year.
From last year's team, we lost three players that were starters at the end of the season including our leading scorer and leading rebounder. There's a lot of season left, but we've got a good shot at post-season play this season IMO.
So that's 7 starters we've lost over the past two seasons without any super duper recruiting rankings, and we're doing just fine.
It's not just USM, though. UTEP lost half their team mid-season, and they're tied for 1st place and a team likely to be playing after the conference tourney. USM and ECU both had an opportunity to recruit replacements while UTEP didn't so the "woe-is-us" argument just doesn't fly. Good coaching covers these deficiencies while bad coaching amplifies them.
have 'em google d j newbill to see how he's doing....never skipped a beat....and we are lucky for that (his stats would work in the world of sj to a tee)
we fired a dipshite after ONE YEAR in FOOTBALL
...yeah, it's been painful.....
so bye now to sj and the pirates.....wishing them good luck in the akkkkkkkkkk plank
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
How many times have you been top 5 in CUSA?
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(01-31-2014 03:25 PM)07owl Wrote: Ben Braun, Rice...not everything that's happened to the program recently is his fault, but 5-26 last year and 6-14 so far this year isn't gonna give you much job security
Braun's biggest issue is the small fan base that we had left after Willis Wilson has now dwindled even further. Even in a C-USA thread on lousy basketball coaches, only two of us are talking about Rice. We have to make an SMU-like change.
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(01-31-2014 06:25 PM)ESE84 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:25 PM)07owl Wrote: Ben Braun, Rice...not everything that's happened to the program recently is his fault, but 5-26 last year and 6-14 so far this year isn't gonna give you much job security
Braun's biggest issue is the small fan base that we had left after Willis Wilson has now dwindled even further. Even in a C-USA thread on lousy basketball coaches, only two of us are talking about Rice. We have to make an SMU-like change.
If only we had an SMU-like big name coach who lived in walking distance and attends numerous games
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RE: CUSA basketball coaches on hot seat...
(01-31-2014 06:16 PM)Blazer88 Wrote: (01-31-2014 03:43 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: Lebo will have us top 5 in the AAC next year. Mark it down.
How many times have you been top 5 in CUSA?
How many times have we been top 10 in CUSA? Y'all will see...
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