I'm surprised this hasn't been talked about as yet. Seems like a natural that will draw both liberals and conservative opinions.

Couple of questions: do the football players think that only they can be unionized? What about woman's field hockey? Heck, how would the whole Title IX be affected?

Maybe they have some valid complaints, and maybe it's time the NCAA addressed these points.

How far would this go in affecting other schools? Would it be subject to NLRB regulations? Could different schools have dfferent policies?

Would southern states benefit from being "right to work"?

Will union organizers have to bulk up to intimidate defensive lineman?

I like it when leftists oppose leftists.

NCAA and universities have mistreated students. Leftists do like to exploit others.

The pushback will likely harm both parties.

This is pretty easy, as scholarships are only one year contracts. Simply relieve the aggrieved parties of their burden to be student athletes. Should take care of this in relatively short order.

There is a big split among fans...

Pro.. http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/1/28/53546...yers-union

Quote:No matter how you feel on the major issues when it comes to player's rights, (namely compensation), this is an important moment for three reasons:

1) All Players United recognizes the importance of getting a seat at the decision making table. When the NCAA decides how many tickets a player can get to his own performance, how many hours a week an athlete can work or how far a player can travel on a school night to play the sport, players are not part of the decision making process. The process is ripe for exploitation, and needs to be changed.

2) The Union discussion opens a lot of uncomfortable questions, that need to be discussed. Compensation, academic dishonesty, the role of sports in academia, the subsidization of non-revenue "country club" sports, player safety, and coach abuse are all things that need to be discussed, but are often dismissed. This opens up the conversation because...

3) The movement is created by players. Everyone has their opinion on how college athletes should be treated. This is not that, this is players telling the world how they should be treated and fighting to get the treatment they feel they deserve. In an age where posting on a blog or on Facebook is considered activism, it is nice to see a group of young men put in the real work to do something to create real change.

Con.. http://www.ubbullrun.com/2014/1/28/53549...s-not-1906

Quote:My experience in college was working more than three jobs to cover what little I could while taking out loans to cover the rest, loans I was paying back well into my 30's. Working as a stack page in the Library, a desktop support person in Capen Hall, a tutor, a classroom lab assistant, and on the side a vendor at parades was not as glorious as playing sports but it certainly consumed almost every hour I had which was not in the classroom or in the books.

College is hard... On everyone!

Are there issues that require immediate attention from the NCAA regarding the treatment of players? Hell yes there are and there are far more subtle, quick, and effective ways to do it.

You don't need a union to force the NCAA's hand on these issues. Colleges are practically tripping over themselves trying to pay out stipends. Everything from tickets, to practice hours, to injuries, to academic dishonesty can be handled if the players banded together to get representation in the NCAA on par with AD's and you don't need a union for that.

In the 50's there was a court case which seems to favor the players..

In 1953, in University of Denver v. Nemeth, the Colorado Supreme Court upheld a determination by the state Industrial Commission that Ernest Nemeth, a football player at the University of Denver, was an “employee”

(01-29-2014 01:34 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I'm surprised this hasn't been talked about as yet. Seems like a natural that will draw both liberals and conservative opinions.

Couple of questions: do the football players think that only they can be unionized? What about woman's field hockey? Heck, how would the whole Title IX be affected?

Maybe they have some valid complaints, and maybe it's time the NCAA addressed these points.

How far would this go in affecting other schools? Would it be subject to NLRB regulations? Could different schools have dfferent policies?

Would southern states benefit from being "right to work"?

Will union organizers have to bulk up to intimidate defensive lineman?

The players forming the union will also let D1 basketball players in. The kicker is: they will only those who go to private schools.

You're right. They have concerns that the NCAA needs to address.

Remember "right to work" doesn't mean that you can't be in a union, you just can't hold being in a union as a condition for employment.

Now here's my thing, how are they going to pay the dues to keep the union up? Do they want the universities to maintain them? You don't just form a union and *POOF* it's operational. They are expensive and will require a lot of funds to go head to head with the NCAA and conferences in court.