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RE: why do so many people not list their team they root for?
College teams
1. Houston
2. Texas Tech
3. North Texas
4. Illinois
5. UT
All other Texas college teams if in the running for something.

Pro teams
1. Houston
2. Dallas (except basketball it's San Antonio)

Why? I'm an alumni, my son attends or one of my brothers are alumni or have close family relations who are alumni, try keep it all in the family. Raised in DFW and live in Houston 35 plus years. I'm about all things Texas, except for the fighting Illini, one of my brothers and best man at my wedding, graduated from their.
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RE: why do so many people not list their team they root for?
Why no particular team? Because there are many teams I follow/enjoy/root for.

I had one undergrad school (Utah) - but I live nowhere near it now (or even since) and spent a total of 4 years of my life in its state (actually, a bit less). It isn't "my state". I didn't grow up rooting for my alma mater. Due to distance, I dont really get much (media) info on the teams - and couldn't name more than a handful of players on the team in any given season. Also - I'm basically a college FB fan - and they were really a basketball school (at least when I was there), unless we were playing BYU or UtahSt. I still try and catch those games if they are on.

3 graduate schools (2 play college FB, one does not play Div 1 sports) and I haven't lived near any of them in quite some time either. I've taught at a few div 1 schools. Are they any less "my school" than the one I attended undergrad or the 3 I attended as a grad student? They all feel like they are a part of me...a little anyway.

Now I watch and follow a school within a reasonable drive from me that my friends and family enjoy. We go to games together. I don't think they've played any of "my schools" in FB since I've watched them, so competing loyalties have not been an issue. Someday, my kids will attend a college - or two... and I''ll enjoy and root for them too (unless they go to OhioU - which I would pay them not to).
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Honestly, I'd figure the handle's and the sigs would give off who you pull for.
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As a kid in Cincinnati on Sundays, WXIX prior to cable, you got ND football re broadcasts.
You rarely saw a Cincy game although WXIX would broadcast Cincy football and and basketball
games. The local rag would publish more on Big Ten crap than the local school. Went to Purdue, first year
there Cincy beats Penn St. in football, ND hammers Purdue early on. LOL.
Transferred to Cincy after year 1. Never seen a program, Cincinnati accomplish more with less
resources than football and basketball.

I think that ECU football is a compelling story.
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I'm a Texas State fan first and foremost. With that said I grew up on SWC football, and as such I consider myself a fan pretty much all the SWC Texas teams espcially Texas Tech, TCU, Houston and Rice. Used to count Baylor amongst that group, but that stopped when I visited Baylorfans.com several years ago when we last played them. The people who post there are some of the most arrogant I've ever encountered, and that was when they had a horrible team. I don't even want to imagine how they now that they are pretty good.
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I was born in Indiana. As a child I lived in Gary, IN., Geneva, NY., and Toledo, NY before my family settled in Louisville. I am a Louisville fan because I went to UofL. Now my children attend UofL and I send a donation to the university every year.

Being a Louisville fan in the 60s and 70s was easy for me because of the racial hatred that I grew up around. UK fans followed UK because they were white. If you followed UofL you were labeled a "N*gger Lover". Having dark skin it was easy for me to root for Louisville. Though I am not black I looked more like the Louisville players like Phil Bond than the white boys like Jay Shidler that played at UK. After UofL won its 1st title in 1980 I was told a by UK fan "the only reason Louisville won was because their "n*ggers could play ball." I am sure most Louisville fans have similar stories.

I am a Browns fan from my days of living in Toledo. Will always be a Browns fan. I hate front running fans. For example 49er or Cowboy fans that have never been to San Francisco or Dallas.

I always root for the underdog.
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(01-30-2014 04:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I was born in Indiana. As a child I lived in Gary, IN., Geneva, NY., and Toledo, NY before my family settled in Louisville. I am a Louisville fan because I went to UofL. Now my children attend UofL and I send a donation to the university every year.

Being a Louisville fan in the 60s and 70s was easy for me because of the racial hatred that I grew up around. UK fans followed UK because they were white. If you followed UofL you were labeled a "N*gger Lover". Having dark skin it was easy for me to root for Louisville. Though I am not black I looked more like the Louisville players like Phil Bond than the white boys like Jay Shidler that played at UK. After UofL won its 1st title in 1980 I was told a by UK fan "the only reason Louisville won was because their "n*ggers could play ball." I am sure most Louisville fans have similar stories.

I am a Browns fan from my days of living in Toledo. Will always be a Browns fan. I hate front running fans. For example 49er or Cowboy fans that have never been to San Francisco or Dallas.

I always root for the underdog.
CJ

It seems like you are stereotyping Kentucky fans as racist and Louisville fans as not racist.
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It's not anyway nearly as bad now as it was in the '60's & '70's. I'm White but I was born in Louisville and moved to Miami in 1959 and lived there until 1968 when the family moved back to Louisville. Having lived in a racially diverse area in Miami you accepted everyone and gave it no thought. Going to High School in Louisville from '68-'71 there was a huge divide between Blacks and Whites. Might have been over the Race riots in 68 here after the assassination of Dr. King in Memphis just before I moved back here. Louisville has a 17% Black population however out in the State listening to others You would swear it was 100%. I went to UK from '71-'73 and all I heard was How could You live in Louisville? IF YOU supported UL you were labeled what Cardinal Jim said by most UK fans. I worked for and still do one of the Worlds largest MFG companies in the Quality dept. I now see a totally different view from fans of both schools. People do change and Kentucky is the better for it. Sports has brought people closer together.
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(01-30-2014 07:49 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  It's not anyway nearly as bad now as it was in the '60's & '70's. I'm White but I was born in Louisville and moved to Miami in 1959 and lived there until 1968 when the family moved back to Louisville. Having lived in a racially diverse area in Miami you accepted everyone and gave it no thought. Going to High School in Louisville from '68-'71 there was a huge divide between Blacks and Whites. Might have been over the Race riots in 68 here after the assassination of Dr. King in Memphis just before I moved back here. Louisville has a 17% Black population however out in the State listening to others You would swear it was 100%. I went to UK from '71-'73 and all I heard was How could You live in Louisville? IF YOU supported UL you were labeled what Cardinal Jim said by most UK fans. I worked for and still do one of the Worlds largest MFG companies in the Quality dept. I now see a totally different view from fans of both schools. People do change and Kentucky is the better for it. Sports has brought people closer together.

It is much better now but CJ & CardFan is correct...the 1st Black player at UK was Tom Payne when he signed with them in 1969...one of the old Nicknames some UK fans gave UofL was the " Black Birds"...
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(01-29-2014 10:01 PM)nert Wrote:  Why no particular team? Because there are many teams I follow/enjoy/root for.

I had one undergrad school (Utah) - but I live nowhere near it now (or even since) and spent a total of 4 years of my life in its state (actually, a bit less). It isn't "my state". I didn't grow up rooting for my alma mater. Due to distance, I dont really get much (media) info on the teams - and couldn't name more than a handful of players on the team in any given season. Also - I'm basically a college FB fan - and they were really a basketball school (at least when I was there), unless we were playing BYU or UtahSt. I still try and catch those games if they are on.

3 graduate schools (2 play college FB, one does not play Div 1 sports) and I haven't lived near any of them in quite some time either. I've taught at a few div 1 schools. Are they any less "my school" than the one I attended undergrad or the 3 I attended as a grad student? They all feel like they are a part of me...a little anyway.

Now I watch and follow a school within a reasonable drive from me that my friends and family enjoy. We go to games together. I don't think they've played any of "my schools" in FB since I've watched them, so competing loyalties have not been an issue. Someday, my kids will attend a college - or two... and I''ll enjoy and root for them too (unless they go to OhioU - which I would pay them not to).

That's much how it's all evolved for me. Although I have pulled for Texas since I knew what football and baseball were, I can't think of one family member who went there. 03-banghead In my immediate family (parents and brothers), we have attended TCU, UTEP, USC, UCLA, Kentucky, Tulane, Indiana, Oklahoma, Appalachian State, Clinch Valley College (named something else now, I think), Oklahoma City, Washington University (St. Louis), Georgetown, Ole Miss and William Carey University (And I am sure I've left a couple out). So a part of me will have some level of rooting interest for them, but none could be considered "my team," except William Carey, an NAIA school with no football. Having lived in Pennsylvania as a child, I liked Penn State (lived an hour or so away) and having lived in North Carolina, I liked Duke (brother's are Tarheel fans though). They aren't "my teams," but I am generally pleased when they do well.

My years as a sportswriter desensitized me to my own preferences for a long time, since I was supposed to be impartial regarding local schools. But knowing so many players gave me a greater appreciation for the young men and women playing the games and the work they have to put in to be successful. While I will state my preference for certain schools, like Texas, Ole Miss, USM and LSU, ultimately I find myself rooting for the individuals who play the games and that's why I put in my profile that I root for players. It's a lot simpler than saying I have a rooting interest in multiple teams and also explains how I can pull for a player I know, like Deion Branch, for example, but never root for Louisville, the team.
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(01-30-2014 07:06 AM)CoogNellie Wrote:  
(01-30-2014 04:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I was born in Indiana. As a child I lived in Gary, IN., Geneva, NY., and Toledo, NY before my family settled in Louisville. I am a Louisville fan because I went to UofL. Now my children attend UofL and I send a donation to the university every year.

Being a Louisville fan in the 60s and 70s was easy for me because of the racial hatred that I grew up around. UK fans followed UK because they were white. If you followed UofL you were labeled a "N*gger Lover". Having dark skin it was easy for me to root for Louisville. Though I am not black I looked more like the Louisville players like Phil Bond than the white boys like Jay Shidler that played at UK. After UofL won its 1st title in 1980 I was told a by UK fan "the only reason Louisville won was because their "n*ggers could play ball." I am sure most Louisville fans have similar stories.

I am a Browns fan from my days of living in Toledo. Will always be a Browns fan. I hate front running fans. For example 49er or Cowboy fans that have never been to San Francisco or Dallas.

I always root for the underdog.
CJ

It seems like you are stereotyping Kentucky fans as racist and Louisville fans as not racist.

Back in the time that he grew up, likely a fair generalization. Adolph Rupp was extremely racist, and that permeted the fan base. UL was an urban school, and at the time, it's fan base didn't extend to any of the rural areas of KY, which were (and for the most part still are) UK country.
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For me, Illinois was the family school (Grandpa, Dad, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, etc) went there. I went there for 3 semesters before deciding to head west to NAU.


I did apply, was accepted and visited two other schools when I left Illinois - Idaho and Colorado State were the other two - I have followed both of them to a lesser degree since.

Now living in Arizona, three miles from ASU, I follow them (and my partner grew up in Tucson, so is a big UA fan), so I follow them to a degree, but if ever there is a conflict, NAU and Illinois take priority.
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Louisville was a private school up until the very early '70's. Primarily an Engineering, Buisness and Medical based University. It became part of the State University systems around that time. Expanding to make Education more affordable for Louisvillians and surrounding counties. Louisville broke the racial barriers earlier in Sports. Louisvillian Pee Wee Reese became known to Befriend Jackie Robinson years before with the Dodgers. Louisville hired Ron Cooper to become the First Black Head coach at any Major State University in any sport in Kentucky. Funny that Two years ago all 3 Major Football programs in Kentucky had Black Head Coaches. Strong, Phillips and Taggart.
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I think people forget how much influence TV and accessibility had back in the day in shaping people's fandom. Take the NFL for example. When I was kid (grew up just south of Rochester pretty much between Syracuse and Buffalo) the Bills were horrible. It wasn't like today where you can watch any game you want. You basically got what ever was on network TV or you did not watch. The Bills were so bad that more often then not the game would be switched to a more competitive game. So at the critical junction of my young fandom forming I became a Dallas Cowboys fan .. not because I was a front runner .. but because I wanted to watch football and they seemed to be on more Sundays than not. Unlike the more local Bills.

This was also how I became a t-shirt Syracuse fan. With no NBA team outside of NYC (which was 6 hours away) the Orangemen where the only local source of hoops entertainment. Not only where they on local TV and in our media constantly but our local YMCA (which was run by Uncle) took bus trips to the Dome several times a month to see them play. Had there been a closer, relevant NBA or college team I might never started watching SU. They were the sole game in town so to speak and unlike the poor hapless Bills they were actually on TV.

I just think people see sports how they are now with access via cable/satellite and internet and forget for many of us it wasn't like that when we were kids and forming our allegiances.
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(01-30-2014 12:52 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  I think people forget how much influence TV and accessibility had back in the day in shaping people's fandom. Take the NFL for example. When I was kid (grew up just south of Rochester pretty much between Syracuse and Buffalo) the Bills were horrible. It wasn't like today where you can watch any game you want. You basically got what ever was on network TV or you did not watch. The Bills were so bad that more often then not the game would be switched to a more competitive game. So at the critical junction of my young fandom forming I became a Dallas Cowboys fan .. not because I was a front runner .. but because I wanted to watch football and they seemed to be on more Sundays than not. Unlike the more local Bills.

This was also how I became a t-shirt Syracuse fan. With no NBA team outside of NYC (which was 6 hours away) the Orangemen where the only local source of hoops entertainment. Not only where they on local TV and in our media constantly but our local YMCA (which was run by Uncle) took bus trips to the Dome several times a month to see them play. Had there been a closer, relevant NBA or college team I might never started watching SU. They were the sole game in town so to speak and unlike the poor hapless Bills they were actually on TV.

I just think people see sports how they are now with access via cable/satellite and internet and forget for many of us it wasn't like that when we were kids and forming our allegiances.

For a time I followed Tennessee closely because I could pick up Tennessee radio broadcasts driving to or from AState games and for a couple years it seemed if we had a day game, they had a night game and vice versa.
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(01-30-2014 12:16 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-30-2014 07:06 AM)CoogNellie Wrote:  
(01-30-2014 04:59 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I was born in Indiana. As a child I lived in Gary, IN., Geneva, NY., and Toledo, NY before my family settled in Louisville. I am a Louisville fan because I went to UofL. Now my children attend UofL and I send a donation to the university every year.

Being a Louisville fan in the 60s and 70s was easy for me because of the racial hatred that I grew up around. UK fans followed UK because they were white. If you followed UofL you were labeled a "N*gger Lover". Having dark skin it was easy for me to root for Louisville. Though I am not black I looked more like the Louisville players like Phil Bond than the white boys like Jay Shidler that played at UK. After UofL won its 1st title in 1980 I was told a by UK fan "the only reason Louisville won was because their "n*ggers could play ball." I am sure most Louisville fans have similar stories.

I am a Browns fan from my days of living in Toledo. Will always be a Browns fan. I hate front running fans. For example 49er or Cowboy fans that have never been to San Francisco or Dallas.

I always root for the underdog.
CJ

It seems like you are stereotyping Kentucky fans as racist and Louisville fans as not racist.

Back in the time that he grew up, likely a fair generalization. Adolph Rupp was extremely racist, and that permeted the fan base. UL was an urban school, and at the time, it's fan base didn't extend to any of the rural areas of KY, which were (and for the most part still are) UK country.

Hiring Adolph Rupp is what killed the Duke basketball program between 1970 and 1977. He never coached a game at Duke because of the faculty backlash, and Duke had to go to an inferior coach. Duke had been oscillating between 1,2 or 3 in the SoCon/ACC for 40 years in basketball until that episode.
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I just think it's funny that Louisville tries to take the moral high ground on anything considering who their coaches are and what their coaches have done.
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