(01-29-2014 03:07 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of?

Everyone who encountered an angel in the NT was afraid.

I think demons would induce sufficient fear for any person.

Ghosts? That's what I've always had a hard time understanding why people were afraid of them.

Oh don't get me wrong, the shock of the whole thing would scare the piss out of me. **** jumps out from under me bed with horns and **** speaking ancient Sumerian and I'll **** directly into my pants.

I'm just saying that once it settles in. It's really a major relief.

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of? By meeting that thing you have just proven the existence of God, in my opinion. So, if I met a daemon tomorrow, would I be afraid? I may at first but at the same time my faith would be confirmed in the most amazing and complete way. Would I be afraid of death at that point? No. If there is evil like that in the world it can only be the focus on immeasurable good.

BTW, the reason Catholics get associated with this is because of the case of a French peasant girl during the reformation who was supposedly possessed. It became a contest between the different denominations to get rid of the daemon and was international news at the time. Ultimately, they settled on the Catholics being the most effective and so we've been associated with it in culture ever since.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? What's there to be afraid of? Really?



You ever been splatted in the face with hot pea soup? Apparently not. If the heat doesn't burn your face, that schit is salty as hell and stings your eyes something awful.

Afraid indeed!

(01-29-2014 03:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of? By meeting that thing you have just proven the existence of God, in my opinion. So, if I met a daemon tomorrow, would I be afraid? I may at first but at the same time my faith would be confirmed in the most amazing and complete way. Would I be afraid of death at that point? No. If there is evil like that in the world it can only be the focus on immeasurable good.

BTW, the reason Catholics get associated with this is because of the case of a French peasant girl during the reformation who was supposedly possessed. It became a contest between the different denominations to get rid of the daemon and was international news at the time. Ultimately, they settled on the Catholics being the most effective and so we've been associated with it in culture ever since.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? What's there to be afraid of? Really?



You ever been splatted in the face with hot pea soup? Apparently not. If the heat doesn't burn your face, that schit is salty as hell and stings your eyes something awful.

Afraid indeed!

Who you gonna call???

(01-29-2014 02:42 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I wish they would use pentecostal type ministers or pastors for this.

Its always a catholic because Catholics or the one's who have official rits for such things.

Seems like a christian who is more in tune with the spiritual side would be a a better choice.

This is not a knock in Catholics, it just that different denominations focus on different aspects. Catholics are more ritualistic in nature. Some Pentecostals are much more spiritual based. Some Baptists as well.

My Baptist Preacher told us stories of possessions that he'd witnessed. My mom and dad, unless very sick, have been in church every Sunday, Sunday evening, and most Wednesdays for the last 38 years and when I sent my mom the link, she said she'd read it but she wouldn't look further into it because she doesn't want to push the doors that things like this can open. Myself, I can't help it, I'm all over this kind of stuff like a fly on sh*t.

(01-29-2014 03:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of? By meeting that thing you have just proven the existence of God, in my opinion. So, if I met a daemon tomorrow, would I be afraid? I may at first but at the same time my faith would be confirmed in the most amazing and complete way. Would I be afraid of death at that point? No. If there is evil like that in the world it can only be the focus on immeasurable good.

BTW, the reason Catholics get associated with this is because of the case of a French peasant girl during the reformation who was supposedly possessed. It became a contest between the different denominations to get rid of the daemon and was international news at the time. Ultimately, they settled on the Catholics being the most effective and so we've been associated with it in culture ever since.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? What's there to be afraid of? Really?



You ever been splatted in the face with hot pea soup? Apparently not. If the heat doesn't burn your face, that schit is salty as hell and stings your eyes something awful.

Afraid indeed!

Who you gonna call???

Bill Oreilly?

No no! Glenn Beck!!!

(01-29-2014 03:36 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of? By meeting that thing you have just proven the existence of God, in my opinion. So, if I met a daemon tomorrow, would I be afraid? I may at first but at the same time my faith would be confirmed in the most amazing and complete way. Would I be afraid of death at that point? No. If there is evil like that in the world it can only be the focus on immeasurable good.

BTW, the reason Catholics get associated with this is because of the case of a French peasant girl during the reformation who was supposedly possessed. It became a contest between the different denominations to get rid of the daemon and was international news at the time. Ultimately, they settled on the Catholics being the most effective and so we've been associated with it in culture ever since.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? What's there to be afraid of? Really?



You ever been splatted in the face with hot pea soup? Apparently not. If the heat doesn't burn your face, that schit is salty as hell and stings your eyes something awful.

Afraid indeed!

Who you gonna call???

Bill Oreilly?

No no! Glenn Beck!!!

lol, not really where I was going with this, but well played.

(01-29-2014 03:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:42 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I wish they would use pentecostal type ministers or pastors for this.

Its always a catholic because Catholics or the one's who have official rits for such things.

Seems like a christian who is more in tune with the spiritual side would be a a better choice.

This is not a knock in Catholics, it just that different denominations focus on different aspects. Catholics are more ritualistic in nature. Some Pentecostals are much more spiritual based. Some Baptists as well.

My Baptist Preacher told us stories of possessions that he'd witnessed. My mom and dad, unless very sick, have been in church every Sunday, Sunday evening, and most Wednesdays for the last 38 years and when I sent my mom the link, she said she'd read it but she wouldn't look further into it because she doesn't want to push the doors that things like this can open. Myself, I can't help it, I'm all over this kind of stuff like a fly on sh*t.

I'm the same way, but direct involvement does put us in more danger from them.

I never met the man, but its accepted fact in my family that my great, great grandfather died a possessed man. The story is my grandfather and his bother were there at his death and they shot out of his mouth in spectacular fashion the moment he died.

They both became a believers at that moment and never turned away from God again. Gramps in particular totally turned his life around after seeing that.

He died being known as a very strong and respected christian. His brother became a VERY respected minister.

Sadly, I never met gramps either, as he died a few months before I was born. I've rarely heard anyone spoke of with such respect as those two men are to this day.

(01-29-2014 03:38 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:36 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Here's a different take.

In my opinion you can tell that it's fake since everybody involved is afraid.

In my humble opinion, if you meet a daemon what is there to be afraid of? By meeting that thing you have just proven the existence of God, in my opinion. So, if I met a daemon tomorrow, would I be afraid? I may at first but at the same time my faith would be confirmed in the most amazing and complete way. Would I be afraid of death at that point? No. If there is evil like that in the world it can only be the focus on immeasurable good.

BTW, the reason Catholics get associated with this is because of the case of a French peasant girl during the reformation who was supposedly possessed. It became a contest between the different denominations to get rid of the daemon and was international news at the time. Ultimately, they settled on the Catholics being the most effective and so we've been associated with it in culture ever since.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? What's there to be afraid of? Really?



You ever been splatted in the face with hot pea soup? Apparently not. If the heat doesn't burn your face, that schit is salty as hell and stings your eyes something awful.

Afraid indeed!

Who you gonna call???

Bill Oreilly?

No no! Glenn Beck!!!

lol, not really where I was going with this, but well played.

I know where you were going with it but can we confirm that Bill Murray got the call?

(01-29-2014 03:39 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:42 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I wish they would use pentecostal type ministers or pastors for this.

Its always a catholic because Catholics or the one's who have official rits for such things.

Seems like a christian who is more in tune with the spiritual side would be a a better choice.

This is not a knock in Catholics, it just that different denominations focus on different aspects. Catholics are more ritualistic in nature. Some Pentecostals are much more spiritual based. Some Baptists as well.

My Baptist Preacher told us stories of possessions that he'd witnessed. My mom and dad, unless very sick, have been in church every Sunday, Sunday evening, and most Wednesdays for the last 38 years and when I sent my mom the link, she said she'd read it but she wouldn't look further into it because she doesn't want to push the doors that things like this can open. Myself, I can't help it, I'm all over this kind of stuff like a fly on sh*t.

I'm the same way, but direct involvement does put us in more danger from them.

I never met the man, but its accepted fact in my family that my great, great grandfather died a possessed man. The story is my grandfather and his bother were there at his death and they shot out of his mouth in spectacular fashion the moment he died.

They both became a believers at that moment and never turned away from God again. Gramps in particular totally turned his life around after seeing that.

He died being known as a very strong and respected christian. His brother became a VERY respected minister.

Sadly, I never met gramps either, as he died a few months before I was born.

Very interesting story, and I believe it every ounce. I get real uneasy when I'm watching a horror movie and words of a different language are being murmurred. That's like a direct portal for demonic activity.

(01-29-2014 03:52 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:39 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:42 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I wish they would use pentecostal type ministers or pastors for this.

Its always a catholic because Catholics or the one's who have official rits for such things.

Seems like a christian who is more in tune with the spiritual side would be a a better choice.

This is not a knock in Catholics, it just that different denominations focus on different aspects. Catholics are more ritualistic in nature. Some Pentecostals are much more spiritual based. Some Baptists as well.

My Baptist Preacher told us stories of possessions that he'd witnessed. My mom and dad, unless very sick, have been in church every Sunday, Sunday evening, and most Wednesdays for the last 38 years and when I sent my mom the link, she said she'd read it but she wouldn't look further into it because she doesn't want to push the doors that things like this can open. Myself, I can't help it, I'm all over this kind of stuff like a fly on sh*t.

I'm the same way, but direct involvement does put us in more danger from them.

I never met the man, but its accepted fact in my family that my great, great grandfather died a possessed man. The story is my grandfather and his bother were there at his death and they shot out of his mouth in spectacular fashion the moment he died.

They both became a believers at that moment and never turned away from God again. Gramps in particular totally turned his life around after seeing that.

He died being known as a very strong and respected christian. His brother became a VERY respected minister.

Sadly, I never met gramps either, as he died a few months before I was born.

Very interesting story, and I believe it every ounce. I get real uneasy when I'm watching a horror movie and words of a different language are being murmurred. That's like a direct portal for demonic activity.

They also said the multiple demons that shot out of his mouth were screaming in a different language.

We have a pic of the man taken a few years before this happened and he is the creepiest looking man I have ever seen.

I was creeped out by his picture long before Dad ever told me what had happened.

I have a few honest questions.

Why are only Christians, and so often Catholics, possessed? Why is it that the possessed are the very people who hold belief systems that include the possibility of demonic possession? Where is the Buddhist possessed by the Devil? Or more importantly, where is the Atheist possessed by a demon? If it's real, why are demons and the Devil playing favorites?

There are probably a billion smart phones on the planet. Why is it that no one there thought to film any portion of the possession with one of them? Where are the pictures of the oil on the blinds, of the basement, of the alter etc. If there are pictures, it's the internet, it's not like you can run out of ink. Or, did everyone conveniently forgot to document everything with media?

(01-29-2014 03:56 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I have a few honest questions.

Why are only Christians, and so often Catholics, possessed? Why is it that the possessed are the very people who hold belief systems that include the possibility of demonic possession? Where is the Buddhist possessed by the Devil? Or more importantly, where is the Atheist possessed by a demon? If it's real, why are demons and the Devil playing favorites?

There are probably a billion smart phones on the planet. Why is it that no one there thought to film any portion of the possession with one of them? Where are the pictures of the oil on the blinds, of the basement, of the alter etc. If there are pictures, it's the internet, it's not like you can run out of ink. Or, did everyone conveniently forgot to document everything with media?

Because we call the unbelieving possessed Liberals.

(01-29-2014 03:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:42 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I wish they would use pentecostal type ministers or pastors for this.

Its always a catholic because Catholics or the one's who have official rits for such things.

Seems like a christian who is more in tune with the spiritual side would be a a better choice.

This is not a knock in Catholics, it just that different denominations focus on different aspects. Catholics are more ritualistic in nature. Some Pentecostals are much more spiritual based. Some Baptists as well.

My Baptist Preacher told us stories of possessions that he'd witnessed. My mom and dad, unless very sick, have been in church every Sunday, Sunday evening, and most Wednesdays for the last 38 years and when I sent my mom the link, she said she'd read it but she wouldn't look further into it because she doesn't want to push the doors that things like this can open. Myself, I can't help it, I'm all over this kind of stuff like a fly on sh*t.

Back when UC was in CUSA they were a big drawl on the road games.
Opposing fans would usually pack the arena. Was watching Cincy @UAB
on a Wed. night any nobody was there, because that is Southern Baptist Church night. I was clueless about that. Most Catholic churches you go to Mass any day of the week in the AM or at Noon. Saturday evenings are popular.

(01-29-2014 11:47 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 11:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  They're there......

Authorities also think they've found a vamp burial ground. Imagine the chaos if the tribulation we Christians are taught is true... FTR, I believe it is.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/roll...d=19739673

You know what else is in that neighborhood around Katowice, Poland? An evil little place called Auschwitz. Don't think I'll include this particular part of Poland on any future European vacations.

(01-29-2014 03:56 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I have a few honest questions.

Why are only Christians, and so often Catholics, possessed? Why is it that the possessed are the very people who hold belief systems that include the possibility of demonic possession? Where is the Buddhist possessed by the Devil? Or more importantly, where is the Atheist possessed by a demon? If it's real, why are demons and the Devil playing favorites?

There are probably a billion smart phones on the planet. Why is it that no one there thought to film any portion of the possession with one of them? Where are the pictures of the oil on the blinds, of the basement, of the alter etc. If there are pictures, it's the internet, it's not like you can run out of ink. Or, did everyone conveniently forgot to document everything with media?

Well the obvious answer is if you are not a believer you won't believe in demonic possession. So the person is just sick, not possessed.

Perhaps you are unaware but there are THOUSANDS of people who are non Christians who were given an exorcism.

Take a missionary trip to Africa or eastern Asia. It happens a lot there.

I personally have seen dozens of filmed exorcisms.

(01-29-2014 03:56 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I have a few honest questions.

Why are only Christians, and so often Catholics, possessed? Why is it that the possessed are the very people who hold belief systems that include the possibility of demonic possession? Where is the Buddhist possessed by the Devil? Or more importantly, where is the Atheist possessed by a demon? If it's real, why are demons and the Devil playing favorites?

There are probably a billion smart phones on the planet. Why is it that no one there thought to film any portion of the possession with one of them? Where are the pictures of the oil on the blinds, of the basement, of the alter etc. If there are pictures, it's the internet, it's not like you can run out of ink. Or, did everyone conveniently forgot to document everything with media?

Not the case at all. The family in Indiana I seriously doubt were Catholic.
In the USA Christianity is by far the most common religion, so chances are............

There is an 800 page report about this case. You might find something there.
There very well could be video docs but that doesn't mean the people involved want to release it.

(01-29-2014 03:56 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I have a few honest questions.

Why are only Christians, and so often Catholics, possessed? Why is it that the possessed are the very people who hold belief systems that include the possibility of demonic possession? Where is the Buddhist possessed by the Devil? Or more importantly, where is the Atheist possessed by a demon? If it's real, why are demons and the Devil playing favorites?

Have you noticed that many Catholics in Latin American countries are typically the ones who see the Virgin Mary in an oil spill or burnt piece of toast? I guess if you look hard enough you'll find what you want to find.

Adam Lanza was a Satanist that got possessed. Happens all the time actually.

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(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Well the obvious answer is if you are not a believer you won't believe in demonic possession. So the person is just sick, not possessed.

I do not believe, but if what was described in the article actually happened (levitation, speaking in tongues, WALKING ON THE CEILING) than even the most grounded person may look to re-evaluate the situation as only a sickness.

(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Perhaps you are unaware but there are THOUSANDS of people who are non Christians who were given an exorcism.

Can you provide some link as to what you believe support your claim? I will review with an open mind.

(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Take a missionary trip to Africa. It happens a lot there. I personal have seen dozens of filmed exorcisms.

So help me understand why they don't lead the news each day, or are not more popular in the media, or don't have scientific papers written on them?

There was a fictional story I read a while ago about how Jesus just appeared in the sky one day, floating above the Vatican and speaking to all humanity that Heaven is real. On that day, everyone became a believer and all wars stopped, the poor were taken care of, and humanity was healed. Would not a clear, unambiguous, filmed exorcism with all the bells and whistles actually move humanity in that direction? Why not share those videos from the mountaintop?

Until then, I stand by my assertion that the people most likely to believe in demonic possession amazingly seem to be the people most like to be possessed by a demon.

(01-29-2014 04:14 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Well the obvious answer is if you are not a believer you won't believe in demonic possession. So the person is just sick, not possessed.

I do not believe, but if what was described in the article actually happened (levitation, speaking in tongues, WALKING ON THE CEILING) than even the most grounded person may look to re-evaluate the situation as only a sickness.

(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Perhaps you are unaware but there are THOUSANDS of people who are non Christians who were given an exorcism.

Can you provide some link as to what you believe support your claim? I will review with an open mind.

(01-29-2014 04:05 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  Take a missionary trip to Africa. It happens a lot there. I personal have seen dozens of filmed exorcisms.

So help me understand why they don't lead the news each day, or are not more popular in the media, or don't have scientific papers written on them? There was a fictional story I read a while ago about how Jesus just appeared in the sky one day, floating above the Vatican and speaking to all humanity that Heaven is real. One that day, everyone became a believer and all wars stopped, the poor were taken care of, and humanity was healed. Would not a clear, unambiguous, filmed exocism with all the bellls and whistles actually move humanity in that direction? Why not share those videos from the mountaintop?

Until then, I stand by my assertion that the people most likely to believe in demonic possession amazingly seem to be the people most like to be possessed by a demon.

Dude, I'm not doing your research for you.

You are free to believe what you choose.

The things I spoke of are out there and at your fingertips. Look them up.

I'm not arrogant or naive enough to think I can change a non believers mind with a few posts or links on a message board.

The only way you would every believe in these things is to investigate, learn and see them YOURSELF.