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RE: 1/27/14 - AP & Coaches Poll. La Tech and USM getting votes.
I've met sooooo many wonderful USM fans, but I seriously doubt that Eager Eagle is even a USM fan at all. Dude, you have been doing this childish crap for over 10 years. Will you EVER get a friggin life!?!!! You are just a no-class, sorry chump.
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(01-27-2014 10:10 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Any one and done is a buy game, and no spin can change that....lol...hilarious.


While that is true I think doing it for basketball is totally different than in football. I think we need what we had this year plus one more to make sure the rpi is higher. It is the best way to manipulate rpi and get closer to a at large.
Id would be totally willing to give up the willam carey game for one more buy game.
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I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....
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(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.
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(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

You are right about making the tournament, but wrong about whore games.
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(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Follow me for just a second. I don't like the football situation just like you don't and for the same reason. But rpi in baskeball can be played with. Last season just replacing one game with a very high rpi game might have gotten us that at large. Which means money, exposure etc. A couple of years of that and we will be in a better position to get teams to do home and home.
Look at middle tenn. girls team. They are in right now even if they don't win the conf tournament. why? They played UT and UK early who are extremely high rpi teams.
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(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

Making it once wont change that. Making it 2 or 3 years in a row will.
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(01-27-2014 10:35 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

Making it once wont change that. Making it 2 or 3 years in a row will.

Hence the phrase "in the future". Besides, if we make the NCAA tourney this season, that would be twice in three seasons with a #1 NIT bid in the other season as the last team out.
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(01-27-2014 10:37 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:35 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

Making it once wont change that. Making it 2 or 3 years in a row will.

Hence the phrase "in the future". Besides, if we make the NCAA tourney this season, that would be twice in three seasons with a #1 NIT bid in the other season as the last team out.

As a first step, I just want a all div 1 schedule.
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(01-27-2014 10:40 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:37 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:35 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I certainly don't agree with you Goldstandard on that, but we do need to drop Carey....

Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

Making it once wont change that. Making it 2 or 3 years in a row will.

Hence the phrase "in the future". Besides, if we make the NCAA tourney this season, that would be twice in three seasons with a #1 NIT bid in the other season as the last team out.

As a first step, I just want a all div 1 schedule.

Yes. Start by replacing the non-D1 games with buy games. Then, hopefully, replace buy games with home and homes.
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Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.
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How in the hell does American (12-7) have a vote? Their best win is over...Boston U?
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(01-27-2014 11:10 PM)keebler645 Wrote:  How in the hell does American (12-7) have a vote? Their best win is over...Boston U?

One of the writers must be an alum.
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(01-27-2014 10:44 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:40 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:37 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:35 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 10:25 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  Go find us a good team that will give us a return game and we won't need a buy game. Good luck with that.

If we make the NCAA tourney this season, it might be easier in the future.

Making it once wont change that. Making it 2 or 3 years in a row will.

Hence the phrase "in the future". Besides, if we make the NCAA tourney this season, that would be twice in three seasons with a #1 NIT bid in the other season as the last team out.

As a first step, I just want a all div 1 schedule.

Yes. Start by replacing the non-D1 games with buy games. Then, hopefully, replace buy games with home and homes.

or the same one buy game, a top tier december tourney, and a home/home multi-conference fesitval.....like that much better.....the rest takes care of itself

....could result in saying adios to the single buy game...which I'm still okay withl for dollars in the near term
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(01-27-2014 11:09 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.

No, the loss to Marshall cost us last year. We had a shot as an at-large until we loss that game. (was it a lock? Nope), but that game costs us.
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(01-28-2014 08:04 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 11:09 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.

No, the loss to Marshall cost us last year. We had a shot as an at-large until we loss that game. (was it a lock? Nope), but that game costs us.

Nope, playing whore games on the road once again cost us. It gave the committee something to point at and say...."See, we told you they don't belong". When will we ever learn. Gotta play on neutral courts against them in tournaments, or do not play them at all...
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(01-27-2014 09:32 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 03:41 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 03:34 PM)wh49er Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 03:25 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Absolutely, and you are an idiot if you don't think so....pal


Substitute them with another DII for all I care and your basketball program can cry every year they miss out on at-large bid.

Yep. I went over the numbers with you guys time and again last year. You literally had nothing on your resume. If you want to go 12-0 OOC and 14-2 in conference, don't come cry here when you get left out because you played 11 home games against RPI 100+ teams and 1 road game @Depaul

Of our 13 D1 non-conference games only 4 were at home. 6 away; 3 neutral. One win was at RPI #41 North Dakota State.

RPI #83 Georgia State's only loss since November was at Southern Miss. They are on a roll and they beat WKU by 23 on the road.

You're the second person who read it this way, I just want to clarify. I was talking about last year. Depaul was the wrong team to use as an example since they were on your schedule this year. Last year your resume had nothing on it, that was what I was saying. This year, your resume has more meat on it.(although when you are making an argument for Georgia State it's a bit worrisome to me)

I was just saying you can't play 12 home games and 1 mediocre road game and expect to get into the NCAA tournament. This was more directed at the one who thinks whore games are terrible.
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(01-28-2014 08:18 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 08:04 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 11:09 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.

No, the loss to Marshall cost us last year. We had a shot as an at-large until we loss that game. (was it a lock? Nope), but that game costs us.

Nope, playing whore games on the road once again cost us. It gave the committee something to point at and say...."See, we told you they don't belong". When will we ever learn. Gotta play on neutral courts against them in tournaments, or do not play them at all...

The selection committee did not point to that game last year. You lost by 8 at Arizona, nobody cares about a loss like that, it's competitive. You had shots against Arizona, La Tech, Wichita State, and NMSU. Your problem was you lost all those games. You beat Denver. That was literally your best win OOC, and best win overall. You had three shots against Memphis, and lost all of those. You also had one super WTF loss to Marshall. Put it altogether and the blind resume looked like this:

RPI: 31
SOS: 74
vs top 50: 0-5
vs 51-100: 3-2
1 loss to a 200+ team, 1 loss to a 101-200 team

If that wasn't Southern Miss, and you didn't have any tie to the team, you would say there was no way that team belonged in the tournament.(and as a member of the conference, I want Southern Miss in the tournament and thought they were a tournament team last year)

I'm afraid Southern Miss is headed for a similar fate this year(especially with another loss or two):

RPI 36
SOS 131
1-1 vs the top 50
3-1 vs the top 100
2 losses 101-200
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(01-28-2014 10:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 08:18 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 08:04 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 11:09 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.

No, the loss to Marshall cost us last year. We had a shot as an at-large until we loss that game. (was it a lock? Nope), but that game costs us.

Nope, playing whore games on the road once again cost us. It gave the committee something to point at and say...."See, we told you they don't belong". When will we ever learn. Gotta play on neutral courts against them in tournaments, or do not play them at all...

The selection committee did not point to that game last year. You lost by 8 at Arizona, nobody cares about a loss like that, it's competitive. You had shots against Arizona, La Tech, Wichita State, and NMSU. Your problem was you lost all those games. You beat Denver. That was literally your best win OOC, and best win overall. You had three shots against Memphis, and lost all of those. You also had one super WTF loss to Marshall. Put it altogether and the blind resume looked like this:

RPI: 31
SOS: 74
vs top 50: 0-5
vs 51-100: 3-2
1 loss to a 200+ team, 1 loss to a 101-200 team

If that wasn't Southern Miss, and you didn't have any tie to the team, you would say there was no way that team belonged in the tournament.(and as a member of the conference, I want Southern Miss in the tournament and thought they were a tournament team last year)

I'm afraid Southern Miss is headed for a similar fate this year(especially with another loss or two):

RPI 36
SOS 131
1-1 vs the top 50
3-1 vs the top 100
2 losses 101-200

Yep, and we lost the games that we played on the road...with no return
game....
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(01-28-2014 10:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 08:18 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 08:04 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(01-27-2014 11:09 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Been playing buy games for 50 years to no avail here. Long overdue to quit doing it. Didn't work last year either. The Committee will use the big loss at Louisville against us if we don't win the tournament. You will see. Happens every year to teams like us... And happened to us last year.

No, the loss to Marshall cost us last year. We had a shot as an at-large until we loss that game. (was it a lock? Nope), but that game costs us.

Nope, playing whore games on the road once again cost us. It gave the committee something to point at and say...."See, we told you they don't belong". When will we ever learn. Gotta play on neutral courts against them in tournaments, or do not play them at all...

The selection committee did not point to that game last year. You lost by 8 at Arizona, nobody cares about a loss like that, it's competitive. You had shots against Arizona, La Tech, Wichita State, and NMSU. Your problem was you lost all those games. You beat Denver. That was literally your best win OOC, and best win overall. You had three shots against Memphis, and lost all of those. You also had one super WTF loss to Marshall. Put it altogether and the blind resume looked like this:

RPI: 31
SOS: 74
vs top 50: 0-5
vs 51-100: 3-2
1 loss to a 200+ team, 1 loss to a 101-200 team

If that wasn't Southern Miss, and you didn't have any tie to the team, you would say there was no way that team belonged in the tournament.(and as a member of the conference, I want Southern Miss in the tournament and thought they were a tournament team last year)

I'm afraid Southern Miss is headed for a similar fate this year(especially with another loss or two):

RPI 36
SOS 131
1-1 vs the top 50
3-1 vs the top 100
2 losses 101-200

possibly, and it is a fear....but as you mentioned, this years schedule and w/l looks better

and there is no doubt the Marshall game was a knockout punch if we had any chance....no way we can afford to have a similar loss moving forward...so far. so good

btw, we really never had a chance against NMSU last year....their sleestack center killed us.
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