Pastner said that the training Frank Matrisciano was using on the Tigers, was making them too tired to jump high enough on their 3's. I think he was right, and the numbers back it up.

Since Frank Matrisciano was let go, the 3 point % has improved by 7.15%.

First 6 games 32.2%
Next 7 games 26.9% 29.3% up till that point

Next 7 games 36.5%, after Frank was let go.
Season Total 30.4%

You see that as the season went on, the 3 point % decreased....after Frank was let go, it increased....seems that Pastner was right.

Hope the upward trend continues.

I think he just wanted to experiment with dialing it down, not to be done with all of Frank's methods.

I do want guys to still go all out on defense, even if it impacts their shooting percentage (see Tone Anderson) - shooting comes and goes, but defense can be consistent

But another big difference is that the shot selection from 3 has gotten much better recently.

Out of all possible factors, I would key on shot selection as the most important (inside out ball movement), because it doesn't just relate to shooting percentage, but also to the flow of the offense.

So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

Because a free throw is not usually considered a Jump Shot

Big Dom looks good even when he misses. If he loses 20 lbs he is a scoring machine.

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

It's a proven fact that it takes a while to get your legs back!

Just ask Wilt. His problem may have been too many women, tho, come to think...

(01-26-2014 06:43 PM)bobby jo Wrote:  Big Dom looks good even when he misses. If he loses 20 lbs he is a scoring machine.

Hell, keep that 20 lbs Dom, just turn a bit of it from fat to muscle. We saw you throw that weight around in the lane tonight.

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

Ask Calipari. He started it.

To be serious for a moment, they asked Pastner on camera today. He said he had no idea, that he had tried everything he could think of to address it. Cal obviously never figured it out either.

I think it's a matter of concentration, stamina, and psychology. Probably the only one who can fix it is each individual player.

Part of the problem is in the mechanics of shooting the free throw. A free throw should start in the legs and finish with a follow through. This is not happening with some of our players.

(01-26-2014 08:33 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

Ask Calipari. He started it.

To be serious for a moment, they asked Pastner on camera today. He said he had no idea, that he had tried everything he could think of to address it. Cal obviously never figured it out either.

I think it's a matter of concentration, stamina, and psychology. Probably the only one who can fix it is each individual player.

At least King appears to have turned a corner.

(01-26-2014 08:44 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 08:33 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

Ask Calipari. He started it.

To be serious for a moment, they asked Pastner on camera today. He said he had no idea, that he had tried everything he could think of to address it. Cal obviously never figured it out either.

I think it's a matter of concentration, stamina, and psychology. Probably the only one who can fix it is each individual player.

At least King appears to have turned a corner.

Looked like he stopped thinking about it, and just did it. Good to see.

(01-26-2014 05:48 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  Pastner said that the training Frank Matrisciano was using on the Tigers, was making them too tired to jump high enough on their 3's. I think he was right, and the numbers back it up.

Since Frank Matrisciano was let go, the 3 point % has improved by 7.15%.

First 6 games 32.2%
Next 7 games 26.9% 29.3% up till that point

Next 7 games 36.5%, after Frank was let go.
Season Total 30.4%

You see that as the season went on, the 3 point % decreased....after Frank was let go, it increased....seems that Pastner was right.

Hope the upward trend continues.

no offense...but I do not think that a 7% increase justifies your theory.
Now if the 3 point shooting increases to say 45%...then that dynamic changes of course.

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

It's all who's shooting FT's. If it's Joe and Dixon and Shaq is making them then it's usually good. If it's the other guys and Shaq's not making them then it's not usually good.

All i am gonna say is you can bank of OUr Next Trainer being a Ganon Baker Type and working with the Players on Player Develop more and skills training.....#TrUeTh.....Also when Practicing Free Throws and 3 pointers we should be using the Perfect shot on the rim, so when in Game time the rim is bigger and making the shots easier to knock down with better form....Because its makes the rim smaller making you have to adjust to it and having better form to make it consistant,,,,Pros use it all the time.....Changes are coming....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis...The World Is Ours Memphis....

Looking back, I think Frank was a mistake from the very beginning ...

(01-26-2014 08:56 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:25 PM)dan o Wrote:  So why are we still abysmal at the free throw line?

It's all who's shooting FT's. If it's Joe and Dixon and Shaq is making them then it's usually good. If it's the other guys and Shaq's not making them then it's not usually good.

You are so right! It all depends on who is on the line and this goes for every team except for a few teams where nearly every player is really good in hitting them

(01-26-2014 08:44 PM)TigeRM Wrote:  Part of the problem is in the mechanics of shooting the free throw. A free throw should start in the legs and finish with a follow through. This is not happening with some of our players.

Ahem *Shaq*

Common big man form. Bends knees as a concession to coaching I assume, but then stands up straight, and catapults a line drive at the back of the rim.

I think big men may tend to think that using their legs will put unnecessary power into the shot. But it's about verticality, and smooth, consistent, reliable form.

(01-26-2014 08:54 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 05:48 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  Pastner said that the training Frank Matrisciano was using on the Tigers, was making them too tired to jump high enough on their 3's. I think he was right, and the numbers back it up.

Since Frank Matrisciano was let go, the 3 point % has improved by 7.15%.

First 6 games 32.2%
Next 7 games 26.9% 29.3% up till that point

Next 7 games 36.5%, after Frank was let go.
Season Total 30.4%

You see that as the season went on, the 3 point % decreased....after Frank was let go, it increased....seems that Pastner was right.

Hope the upward trend continues.

no offense...but I do not think that a 7% increase justifies your theory.
Now if the 3 point shooting increases to say 45%...then that dynamic changes of course.

Actually, 7% does justify my theory....36.5% would put us at #88, as opposed to #290 out of 294 at the time Fran was let go. That 7% would equate to an extra 3 points per game...would be the difference in losing to Florida

If we were 45%, we would be #1 by about 1.4 percentage points. Creighton the current number one is 43.6%.

I don't think the poor 3 point shooting can or can't be attributed to tired legs. There are a number of factors involved: more open shots, better mechanics, more concentration, more confidence, etc. I don't think we'll ever know. My personal opinion is that tired legs was not the reason for the poor shooting.