(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater with a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

St. Dominic, St. Agnes and St. Mary's also teach Mandarin.

(01-24-2014 05:49 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 05:33 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:45 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  21,

those are great stories

What about folks like us who do not qualify for any kind of financial aid because we are deemed not to have financial need?

How are we supposed to afford a 110K private school education and a possible 150K college tuition? We are as determined as anyone to put him through school.

I am trying with the college part. I know for darn sure that I could not do it had I have to pay the going rate at MUS.

Well, if you are a two-income family, and only have one child, I can see where you might not qualify for financial aid at a private high school. But I would apply, anyway, because the formula is complex, and you are allowed to have more than one home, vehicles don't count, and other expenses (even vacations) are taken into account. I never thought I would qualify either, until a school secretary encouraged me to apply when my oldest was in 6th grade.

Do the best you can with high school, and college can be accomplished. I actually found college was cheaper than private high school. You may benefit from seeing a college guidance counselor and getting their advice about financial aid. Basically, you just file the FAFSA in January of your son's senior high school year with the colleges your son is interested in, after he has been admitted. You will receive a package of aid from each college that includes room and board and transportation.

Every college or university has scholarships for high GPA's, good test scores, exceptional community service, special talents, athletics, specific religious affiliations, intended careers, Native Americans, on and on. They have a handbook or web site that details all their possible scholarships.

Then there are grants you can receive which are outright gifts, like Pell grants. And finally, there are both student and parent loans. It took both my children and me taking out loans to get them through. Some contiguous states have in-state tuition for out-of-state students.

Your child will also be able to apply for on-campus work which will supplement his weekly spending. They are allowed to work about 15 hours a week in many places on campus. This is called work-study.

The school will offer you a package of financial aid, made up of all of these categories. And some of the best colleges in the nation are "need blind", which means if your child can get himself admitted, he will have a completely free ride. The Ivy League schools, like Harvard, offer that and also now Vanderbilt.

My children attended the U. of Missouri, the U. of Oregon, and Birmingham-Southern. If I can help you further, I will be glad to.

Ha

not at you, but at this scenario - his idea of supplementing his spending will come via a text or phone call



Thx. We are way down the college path. He most likely will be attending U of Missouri as they gave him the most merit aid possible given to out of state kids.

Interesting that one of yours did too.

Starting to think college for my kids as well now. I was interested in the merit aid comment. My daughter is a sophomore and got a 30 on her first ACT and has an upper 3 point GPA. I noticed that the University of Alabama has some very good merit aid. Do you mind telling me what Mizzou offers?

Good for her. She is in range for that.

10K per year.

http://financialaid.missouri.edu/types-o.../index.php

(01-23-2014 09:54 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 04:56 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 02:39 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  further reinforcing why private education is always the best.

At least, though, you know you have dedicated and concerned parents that want the best for their kids. That is the cornerstone of strong schools, public or private. Those parent's sweat equity (or frost equity) matches private school parent's monetary investment.

That's why a school like WSHS will still provide an equal educational opportunity with most every private school, at $15-$20K a year less.

Bingo.

While I love my hometown, I have been fortunate enough to live in other cities where the public schools are very good.

My son, who's a senior in Bentonville AR HS, has had the opportunity to take multiple AP classes and participate in a myriad of events.

None of this cost me a thing, except of course for taxes.

If I lived in Memphis and weren't fortunate enough to be in the WSHS district, I would send him to a private school.

And the bill might be upwards of $100K ++ for 9-12. Before Year One in college.

The folks who send their young ones through the PDS / St. Mary's pipeline from kindergarten on, well, they have some major bankage.

And I'm sure those folks can afford to bank roll their kids in college. Most people can't do that.

Good public schools are a must.

Our Daughter went to Mills HS here in LR, which is akin to sending your child from Germantown to Melrose. However, it was the only school in the Pulaski County Special School District that offered the advanced type classes that you would find at a place like WSHS. She graduated 6th in her class, and qualified for the Governor's Distinguished Scholarship. As long as she goes to an in state school all tuition room and board are covered, and she began her college career in Fayetteville as a first year sophomore. She worked her a$$ off to get there, but even in AR where the schools are not deemed better than average, it is what you make of it.

(01-24-2014 07:11 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater will a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

2 of my 3 kids graduated from Briarcrest, my oldest came through Memphis City Schools.

My youngest went to Briarcrest from kindergarten through 12th grade graduating #5 in her class last year.

I've seen a committed direction of improvement in the arts, scholastics, infrastructure, technology, and governance from Briarcrest.



The Dr. Willard R. Sparks Chapel and Performing Arts Center

The Dr. Willard R. Sparks Chapel and Performing Arts Center is a beautiful 35,000 square-foot facility with a 1,000 seat auditorium. Our new state-of-the-art performance venue also includes six music practice rooms, a theatre and dance sudio, vocal music classroom, a full-size theatrical stage, backstage holding areas, full dressing rooms and a set workshop. An art gallery in the main lobby of the facility displays artwork by Briarcrest students, faculty, alumni, and guest artists.

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(01-24-2014 08:19 PM)3601 Wrote:  St. Dominic, St. Agnes and St. Mary's also teach Mandarin.

I think that's great. I also think PDS teaches Spanish, and conducts all classes in it part of the time so students become bilingual.

(01-24-2014 05:49 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 05:33 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:45 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  21,

those are great stories

What about folks like us who do not qualify for any kind of financial aid because we are deemed not to have financial need?

How are we supposed to afford a 110K private school education and a possible 150K college tuition? We are as determined as anyone to put him through school.

I am trying with the college part. I know for darn sure that I could not do it had I have to pay the going rate at MUS.

Well, if you are a two-income family, and only have one child, I can see where you might not qualify for financial aid at a private high school. But I would apply, anyway, because the formula is complex, and you are allowed to have more than one home, vehicles don't count, and other expenses (even vacations) are taken into account. I never thought I would qualify either, until a school secretary encouraged me to apply when my oldest was in 6th grade.

Do the best you can with high school, and college can be accomplished. I actually found college was cheaper than private high school. You may benefit from seeing a college guidance counselor and getting their advice about financial aid. Basically, you just file the FAFSA in January of your son's senior high school year with the colleges your son is interested in, after he has been admitted. You will receive a package of aid from each college that includes room and board and transportation.

Every college or university has scholarships for high GPA's, good test scores, exceptional community service, special talents, athletics, specific religious affiliations, intended careers, Native Americans, on and on. They have a handbook or web site that details all their possible scholarships.

Then there are grants you can receive which are outright gifts, like Pell grants. And finally, there are both student and parent loans. It took both my children and me taking out loans to get them through. Some contiguous states have in-state tuition for out-of-state students.

Your child will also be able to apply for on-campus work which will supplement his weekly spending. They are allowed to work about 15 hours a week in many places on campus. This is called work-study.

The school will offer you a package of financial aid, made up of all of these categories. And some of the best colleges in the nation are "need blind", which means if your child can get himself admitted, he will have a completely free ride. The Ivy League schools, like Harvard, offer that and also now Vanderbilt.

My children attended the U. of Missouri, the U. of Oregon, and Birmingham-Southern. If I can help you further, I will be glad to.

Ha

not at you, but at this scenario - his idea of supplementing his spending will come via a text or phone call



Thx. We are way down the college path. He most likely will be attending U of Missouri as they gave him the most merit aid possible given to out of state kids.

Interesting that one of yours did too.

I can't say enough good things about Mizzou. I fell in love with it. A beautiful campus with really nice Midwestern kids, and fantastic academics. My daughter graduated from the Journalism school there. She got a very good job less than a month after graduation. Funny she had tons of community service and extracurricular activities, but she was admitted solely on her score of 27 on the ACT. Best wishes to your son! He will be a Tiger!

(01-24-2014 09:56 PM)whoyarootinfor Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 05:49 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 05:33 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:45 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  21,

those are great stories

What about folks like us who do not qualify for any kind of financial aid because we are deemed not to have financial need?

How are we supposed to afford a 110K private school education and a possible 150K college tuition? We are as determined as anyone to put him through school.

I am trying with the college part. I know for darn sure that I could not do it had I have to pay the going rate at MUS.

Well, if you are a two-income family, and only have one child, I can see where you might not qualify for financial aid at a private high school. But I would apply, anyway, because the formula is complex, and you are allowed to have more than one home, vehicles don't count, and other expenses (even vacations) are taken into account. I never thought I would qualify either, until a school secretary encouraged me to apply when my oldest was in 6th grade.

Do the best you can with high school, and college can be accomplished. I actually found college was cheaper than private high school. You may benefit from seeing a college guidance counselor and getting their advice about financial aid. Basically, you just file the FAFSA in January of your son's senior high school year with the colleges your son is interested in, after he has been admitted. You will receive a package of aid from each college that includes room and board and transportation.

Every college or university has scholarships for high GPA's, good test scores, exceptional community service, special talents, athletics, specific religious affiliations, intended careers, Native Americans, on and on. They have a handbook or web site that details all their possible scholarships.

Then there are grants you can receive which are outright gifts, like Pell grants. And finally, there are both student and parent loans. It took both my children and me taking out loans to get them through. Some contiguous states have in-state tuition for out-of-state students.

Your child will also be able to apply for on-campus work which will supplement his weekly spending. They are allowed to work about 15 hours a week in many places on campus. This is called work-study.

The school will offer you a package of financial aid, made up of all of these categories. And some of the best colleges in the nation are "need blind", which means if your child can get himself admitted, he will have a completely free ride. The Ivy League schools, like Harvard, offer that and also now Vanderbilt.

My children attended the U. of Missouri, the U. of Oregon, and Birmingham-Southern. If I can help you further, I will be glad to.

Ha

not at you, but at this scenario - his idea of supplementing his spending will come via a text or phone call



Thx. We are way down the college path. He most likely will be attending U of Missouri as they gave him the most merit aid possible given to out of state kids.

Interesting that one of yours did too.

Starting to think college for my kids as well now. I was interested in the merit aid comment. My daughter is a sophomore and got a 30 on her first ACT and has an upper 3 point GPA. I noticed that the University of Alabama has some very good merit aid. Do you mind telling me what Mizzou offers?

I think she will be an automatic admit with that score, and eligible for the Honors College. Most universities and colleges offer merit aid for high-achieving students, and special Honors programs. I would encourage you to explore others, too.
I visited Alabama with my daughter, and we both found it too large and impersonal for her. The very small Birmingham-Southern was a much better school for her. It's really important to match your child with the right school, according to her interests and where she will feel most comfortable. Finances are similar at most of them.

(01-25-2014 11:33 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 09:54 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 04:56 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 02:39 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  further reinforcing why private education is always the best.

At least, though, you know you have dedicated and concerned parents that want the best for their kids. That is the cornerstone of strong schools, public or private. Those parent's sweat equity (or frost equity) matches private school parent's monetary investment.

That's why a school like WSHS will still provide an equal educational opportunity with most every private school, at $15-$20K a year less.

Bingo.

While I love my hometown, I have been fortunate enough to live in other cities where the public schools are very good.

My son, who's a senior in Bentonville AR HS, has had the opportunity to take multiple AP classes and participate in a myriad of events.

None of this cost me a thing, except of course for taxes.

If I lived in Memphis and weren't fortunate enough to be in the WSHS district, I would send him to a private school.

And the bill might be upwards of $100K ++ for 9-12. Before Year One in college.

The folks who send their young ones through the PDS / St. Mary's pipeline from kindergarten on, well, they have some major bankage.

And I'm sure those folks can afford to bank roll their kids in college. Most people can't do that.

Good public schools are a must.

Our Daughter went to Mills HS here in LR, which is akin to sending your child from Germantown to Melrose. However, it was the only school in the Pulaski County Special School District that offered the advanced type classes that you would find at a place like WSHS. She graduated 6th in her class, and qualified for the Governor's Distinguished Scholarship. As long as she goes to an in state school all tuition room and board are covered, and she began her college career in Fayetteville as a first year sophomore. She worked her a$$ off to get there, but even in AR where the schools are not deemed better than average, it is what you make of it.

She will be successful wherever she goes. Congrats, Dad, and best wishes to her.

(01-25-2014 12:47 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 07:11 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater will a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

2 of my 3 kids graduated from Briarcrest, my oldest came through Memphis City Schools.

My youngest went to Briarcrest from kindergarten through 12th grade graduating #5 in her class last year.

I've seen a committed direction of improvement in the arts, scholastics, infrastructure, technology, and governance from Briarcrest.



The Dr. Willard R. Sparks Chapel and Performing Arts Center

The Dr. Willard R. Sparks Chapel and Performing Arts Center is a beautiful 35,000 square-foot facility with a 1,000 seat auditorium. Our new state-of-the-art performance venue also includes six music practice rooms, a theatre and dance sudio, vocal music classroom, a full-size theatrical stage, backstage holding areas, full dressing rooms and a set workshop. An art gallery in the main lobby of the facility displays artwork by Briarcrest students, faculty, alumni, and guest artists.

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That is gorgeous! Briarcrest does have amazing facilities. Congrats to your daughter.

What about all the "newer school districts"? Wasn't there a vote for Gtown, Collierville, and some of the Shelby county schools to form their own thing?
Here in TX, there are school districts, usually associated with metro area. For example, my kids go to Southlake Carroll ISD (independent school district), and we pay school taxes based on the ISD rate. Our school taxes are waayyy more than property taxes, but this school district is one of the top school districts in the DFW region academically. They consistently have upper end SAT, ACT scores, Merit Scholars, and numerous scholarships awarded. My daughter takes AP classes, and the high school has a pre medical program, a pre engineering program, as well as all the perks of a private school. Also, our district excels in sports, state and national champions in football, soccer, swimming and diving, cross country, to name a few.
I would hope that is what the Shelby County schools who are forming their own district will do, and that their taxes will be paid DIRECTLY to the school district, like they are down here.
I have often told my hubby that if we ever move back to Memphis, it will be private schools. Just do not have the faith in the Memphis schools anymore.

(01-24-2014 07:11 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater with a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

Kathy Bates went to WSHS along with the "Fat kid" from Head of The Class. Apparently Jake the Snake Roberts also.(not sure his education helped his future)


I spent 8 years at a catholic school in Memphis until 8th grade. Then I spent a year at White Station middle and 2 yrs at WSHS. It was much tougher at WSHS for 2 years than my entire 8 years in private school. Much of the private schooling was a political reach around. More attention and accolades were given to the children whose parents were more financially stable. It was a joke and I for one would never put a child through private schooling because quite frankly it won't better them in real life situations. Education starts at home. Nobody looks at a persons resume to see if they were homeschooled, public or private. It's more for the parents to filter what the child sees and shelters them from the reality of our world.

the "fat kid" from that show went to MUS

(01-26-2014 12:12 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  the "fat kid" from that show went to MUS

You're both right ..............

Quote:

Dan Schneider
Songwriter

Dan Schneider is an American songwriter, actor, screenwriter, and producer of films and television. After appearing in mostly supporting roles in a number of 1980s and 1990s films and TV shows, Schneider ... Wikipedia

Born: January 14, 1966 (age 48), Memphis, TN

Height: 6' 0" (1.82 m)

Spouse: Lisa Lillien (m. 2002)

Movies: Good Burger, Big Fat Liar, Better Off Dead, More

Education: Memphis University School, White Station High School, Harvard University, Yale University

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(01-25-2014 09:27 PM)dfwtxtiger Wrote:  What about all the "newer school districts"? Wasn't there a vote for Gtown, Collierville, and some of the Shelby county schools to form their own thing?
Here in TX, there are school districts, usually associated with metro area. For example, my kids go to Southlake Carroll ISD (independent school district), and we pay school taxes based on the ISD rate. Our school taxes are waayyy more than property taxes, but this school district is one of the top school districts in the DFW region academically. They consistently have upper end SAT, ACT scores, Merit Scholars, and numerous scholarships awarded. My daughter takes AP classes, and the high school has a pre medical program, a pre engineering program, as well as all the perks of a private school. Also, our district excels in sports, state and national champions in football, soccer, swimming and diving, cross country, to name a few.
I would hope that is what the Shelby County schools who are forming their own district will do, and that their taxes will be paid DIRECTLY to the school district, like they are down here.
I have often told my hubby that if we ever move back to Memphis, it will be private schools. Just do not have the faith in the Memphis schools anymore.

Dallas seems to have a special situation. My cousins went to the Highland Park school system, I believe it is. And that campus seemed to rival MUS. I think St. Louis has a similar situation.

(01-26-2014 11:35 AM)DenverTigerFan Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 07:11 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater with a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

Kathy Bates went to WSHS along with the "Fat kid" from Head of The Class. Apparently Jake the Snake Roberts also.(not sure his education helped his future)


I spent 8 years at a catholic school in Memphis until 8th grade. Then I spent a year at White Station middle and 2 yrs at WSHS. It was much tougher at WSHS for 2 years than my entire 8 years in private school. Much of the private schooling was a political reach around. More attention and accolades were given to the children whose parents were more financially stable. It was a joke and I for one would never put a child through private schooling because quite frankly it won't better them in real life situations. Education starts at home. Nobody looks at a persons resume to see if they were homeschooled, public or private. It's more for the parents to filter what the child sees and shelters them from the reality of our world.

I beg to differ. You went to a parochial school for eight years, which is a private school. But I was referring to the Protestant or non-denominational private schools, which are different from parochial schools in that they are funded by the parents and big donors. Except for a few Catholic schools, like CBHS and Auburndale, I don't think the facilities can compare.
The private elementary schools, like PDS, Grace-St. Luke's, and the lower grades at Hutchison, St. Mary's and St. George's, would have been very rigorous and prepared you for WSHS. When my son transferred to Catholic High School from MUS, he was two years beyond the other students there.
With the top private schools, every student will be admitted to a top college or university, and every student will attend college. The world-class education you can get at private high schools and excellent colleges can certainly impact your life in so many ways. A degree from Vanderbilt or Harvard or Duke or MIT will open doors for you all over the world, and you will have a wonderful education to enjoy your whole life.
Yes, education starts at home, but you can add to that by giving your children the benefit of learning at the feet of the most accomplished teachers. And the top private schools do not shelter students, but, to the contrary, open the world to them with community service, travel, and the mandate to develop an inquiring mind.
And yes, all through life, colleges, employers, and people you meet will be interested in whether you were home-schooled and what high schools and colleges you attended. It matters big-time, along with your talents and accomplishments, of course.
One of my children got a job with a top Memphis company mainly because of her high school, which was the sister school of the owner's school. They knew she had an excellent education and discipline. Another of my children got a great job upon graduation because she attended the best university in this country for her major, and her professor referred her to the owners, who mostly take Mizzou graduates because they need no additional training. At her freshman orientation, we were told that the only competition she would have when she graduated would be from her classmates. So, I would say, yes, it matters very much which schools you attend.
I sometimes think people who make broad statements like you did have not really had any first-hand experience with the best private schools in this city. JMTC

Each of us have unique life experiences but for me I just don't see it. My broad statements aren't untrue for some. I saw some of the more racist and evil people I've met in life when I attended that certain catholic school. I can't say each person in Memphis or any city has had the same experiences. My opinion is that the private schools in Memphis were there for a lot of parents to keep there children from the "horrid" public schools. And the lower income families.( my opinion, and I've had this conversation with others that have agreed)

As far as ones resume goes, I personally worked 6 years at a Fortune 500 company. While there I was responsible for interviewing/hiring/training. I can't remember one resume that listed the elementary/middle school they attended. Nobody paid attention to the names of the high schools, as long as they graduated. In fact nobody cared if the person went to a certain college over another. We were more focused with the individuals work history(ie how long they held positions/reasons for leaving a job)


I hate to argue over the internet, I'm sure you are a good person. Sorry for not agreeing with you.

A bigger school system is better right?

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(01-23-2014 11:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone is joking about schools like hutch or mus vs. athletic or other things vs. wshs, in terms of "college atmosphere" stuff. I'm a CBHS grad but respect the hell out of WSHS and what they provide. Athletics? WSHS is on ESPN this Saturday.

As for "infrastructure" that is college like. WGAS? College is college and there is no need to prep for niceties. I hope my kids learn the fundamentals, if they get a hold of an ipad or tablet, good for them. I hope that Shakespeare, Trig and Physics are promoted over other stuff. As far as I know WSHS has been pretty good in the drama dept.

Clare Grant (actress) is from WSHS and one of the main members from MGMT are from WSHS.

I also respect CBHS and WSHS. You can get great educations at both schools. I, too, am interested in a traditional, classic, fundamental education. Shakespeare, languages, math, science, art and art history, the humanities are all important. And theater is an awesome way to learn so many things. Kathy Bates went to East, as did Cybil Sheperd. I think Latin, the root of all Western languages, should also be required, as it was when I went to Hutchison. PDS is now teaching Mandarin Chinese starting in kindergarten, as is Hutchison, because the Chinese will be our greatest trading partners in the future.

What I meant by "college" infrastructure, you misunderstood. I am not talking about beautiful buildings, comfortable furniture, fancy entrances, or other "niceties." I am talking about all those tools that allow students to not only learn the fundamentals, but to fully develop their interests and abilities: a theater with a full lighting and sound board so a student can learn how to control the stage, a science lab with the equipment necessary to do advanced experiments, state-of-the-art audiovisual equipment so students can see a painting in all its detail, toys which are also tools to teach math, on and on.

The students of today take AP courses which put them on par with freshmen and sophomores in college. They are very bright, and have not only the fundamentals but the ability to use such high-tech tools, which helps them get admitted to the best colleges in the nation.

Kathy Bates went to WSHS along with the "Fat kid" from Head of The Class. Apparently Jake the Snake Roberts also.(not sure his education helped his future)


I spent 8 years at a catholic school in Memphis until 8th grade. Then I spent a year at White Station middle and 2 yrs at WSHS. It was much tougher at WSHS for 2 years than my entire 8 years in private school. Much of the private schooling was a political reach around. More attention and accolades were given to the children whose parents were more financially stable. It was a joke and I for one would never put a child through private schooling because quite frankly it won't better them in real life situations. Education starts at home. Nobody looks at a persons resume to see if they were homeschooled, public or private. It's more for the parents to filter what the child sees and shelters them from the reality of our world.

I beg to differ. You went to a parochial school for eight years, which is a private school. But I was referring to the Protestant or non-denominational private schools, which are different from parochial schools in that they are funded by the parents and big donors. Except for a few Catholic schools, like CBHS and Auburndale, I don't think the facilities can compare.
The private elementary schools, like PDS, Grace-St. Luke's, and the lower grades at Hutchison, St. Mary's and St. George's, would have been very rigorous and prepared you for WSHS. When my son transferred to Catholic High School from MUS, he was two years beyond the other students there.
With the top private schools, every student will be admitted to a top college or university, and every student will attend college. The world-class education you can get at private high schools and excellent colleges can certainly impact your life in so many ways. A degree from Vanderbilt or Harvard or Duke or MIT will open doors for you all over the world, and you will have a wonderful education to enjoy your whole life.
Yes, education starts at home, but you can add to that by giving your children the benefit of learning at the feet of the most accomplished teachers. And the top private schools do not shelter students, but, to the contrary, open the world to them with community service, travel, and the mandate to develop an inquiring mind.
And yes, all through life, colleges, employers, and people you meet will be interested in whether you were home-schooled and what high schools and colleges you attended. It matters big-time, along with your talents and accomplishments, of course.
One of my children got a job with a top Memphis company mainly because of her high school, which was the sister school of the owner's school. They knew she had an excellent education and discipline. Another of my children got a great job upon graduation because she attended the best university in this country for her major, and her professor referred her to the owners, who mostly take Mizzou graduates because they need no additional training. At her freshman orientation, we were told that the only competition she would have when she graduated would be from her classmates. So, I would say, yes, it matters very much which schools you attend.
I sometimes think people who make broad statements like you did have not really had any first-hand experience with the best private schools in this city. JMTC

I went to Catholic schools for 13 years and not once, ever, did politics enter the picture. Discipline did, however.

As a parent I have first-hand experience with both private and public schools. The public school was Cordova High right after it became city.

My God, what an absolute disaster of a school. I hear it is much worse now, it might as well be a community center. What a cesspool.