(01-21-2014 03:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 03:19 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Larry Blakeney, Troy

Blakeney is an Auburn man.

Correct, my fault

George P. Burdell - Georgia Tech.

(P.S. I now have 999 posts. I will stay at this number for as long as possible.)

A tale of two Larrys...Finch and Porter.

(01-21-2014 03:29 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 01:43 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 11:26 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 11:15 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  He who shall not be named and bailed on us bowl game week is an alum and coached UH. He who shall not be named now coaches at Baylor.....

(Art Briles)

Thats really lame. That would be like Ruff leaving for Wake.

Art Briles went to uh but graduated from Texas Tech. IIRC, his parents died in a car wreck and he went back home to West Texas.

Art also coached under Leach at Texas Tech. I seriously doubt Ruff leaves ECU. Ruff is home and he seems happy.

This is correct but he is still an alum. He attended UH.

And just in full disclosure as much as it stung I fault him for the manner (more specifically the timing) of his departure not that he went to a B12 team.

Both he and Scumlin did a major disservice to UH on the way out. If both "men" had been professional and stayed and stayed focused for what was 7 days for Scumlin and between 7-10 days for Briles I would wish them well.

However they did not and showed what little class they both have. I will never wish them well alum (Briles) or not (Scumlin).

I can't stand pine box because he is a coward and wouldn't face the firing squad at Tech. That being said, both of our interim coaches won their respective Bowl Games despite Leach(fired) and pine box(running away to a school in a lesser conference) being replaced. Ruff( Alamo Bowl) and Chris Thomsen(Houston Bowl) wanted to win and didn't use the coaching change as an excuse to lose.

I think Briles and Sumlin are both scum but not because they ran off for better opportunities. I don't care when they left, the coogs should have been fired up to beat TCU and Southern Miss, especially Southern Miss with all that was riding on that game.

(01-21-2014 10:33 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  I think Briles and Sumlin are both scum but not because they ran off for better opportunities. I don't care when they left, the coogs should have been fired up to beat TCU and Southern Miss, especially Southern Miss with all that was riding on that game.

I'll save the 9 page response to Scumlin but Briles took literally the entire coaching staff. Thurmond was the only coach who stayed. Players were calling the plays themselves and we still had a chance to tie the game late in the 4th.

Both "men" "showed" class on the way in and none on the way out. As anti P5/G5 as I am I get the need to take those opportunities. Their timing and lack of focus are what hurt our program.

(01-21-2014 10:43 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 10:33 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  I think Briles and Sumlin are both scum but not because they ran off for better opportunities. I don't care when they left, the coogs should have been fired up to beat TCU and Southern Miss, especially Southern Miss with all that was riding on that game.

I'll save the 9 page response to Scumlin but Briles took literally the entire coaching staff. Thurmond was the only coach who stayed. Players were calling the plays themselves and we still had a chance to tie the game late in the 4th.

Both "men" "showed" class on the way in and none on the way out. As anti P5/G5 as I am I get the need to take those opportunities. Their timing and lack of focus are what hurt our program.

At Arkansas State we are sooo used to playing bowls without a full staff now.

Going outside of football and basketball.

SDSU has Tony Gwynn for beisbol.

We did have Tom Craft for football...his record was pathetic.

(01-21-2014 12:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 12:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 12:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That was far from the worst behavior by Georgia's athletic department during the Dooley years.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Quote:I ran into Ray on the recruiting roads during his time at Georgia. He was always an affable and well met guy and a great recruiter.

Recruiting -- that was his unquestioned great strength as a coach. Sideline decisions and personnel selections were another story.

Quote:Bill Curry was the only coach from that era that I never found any dirt on with regards to recruiting. I'm not saying the Tech program was lily white in recruiting, but there were ample opportunities for me to run across the negative and it just was never there. I think that's about as good as it gets. Curry's big problem at Alabama was not that he failed to beat Auburn, but that he wouldn't "do what it takes" to get recruits.

All of that jibes with the information I have gleaned about Curry through the years, too. I've had a chance to meet him during his Georgia State-phase the last few years (2009-12) and have always been impressed.

Quote:Appointing Curry to be head coach of the Tide would be like making Mother Teresa the head of the CIA.

Heh. The Capstone is a peculiar mix of good and bad, and quite honestly it's not to my liking. But yes Bill Curry was a bizarre choice to be the HC there. I've never understood what Steve Sloan's strategy was, with that decision. It didn't work out, but it did lead to Gene Stallings, which turned out fine.

C.M. Newton and Gene Stallings were two of the most honorable stand up guys that the Alabama coaching ranks ever produced (IMO). I'd put Bill Curry in there but he was never really an Alabama product.

Curry is one of a kind. He actually takes a man at his word and believes in things like a hand shake and trust. In the case of his last job at GSU it was unfortunate that the people around him including members of his staff and his bids did not share that value system. But yeah, there is zero chance that he lies to or misleads a recruit or his parents.

Fred Hoiberg not only played basketball at Iowa State, he grew up in Ames, so he's really a hometown boy.

(01-21-2014 10:33 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 03:29 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 01:43 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 11:26 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 11:15 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  He who shall not be named and bailed on us bowl game week is an alum and coached UH. He who shall not be named now coaches at Baylor.....

(Art Briles)

Thats really lame. That would be like Ruff leaving for Wake.

Art Briles went to uh but graduated from Texas Tech. IIRC, his parents died in a car wreck and he went back home to West Texas.

Art also coached under Leach at Texas Tech. I seriously doubt Ruff leaves ECU. Ruff is home and he seems happy.

This is correct but he is still an alum. He attended UH.

And just in full disclosure as much as it stung I fault him for the manner (more specifically the timing) of his departure not that he went to a B12 team.

Both he and Scumlin did a major disservice to UH on the way out. If both "men" had been professional and stayed and stayed focused for what was 7 days for Scumlin and between 7-10 days for Briles I would wish them well.

However they did not and showed what little class they both have. I will never wish them well alum (Briles) or not (Scumlin).

I can't stand pine box because he is a coward and wouldn't face the firing squad at Tech. That being said, both of our interim coaches won their respective Bowl Games despite Leach(fired) and pine box(running away to a school in a lesser conference) being replaced. Ruff( Alamo Bowl) and Chris Thomsen(Houston Bowl) wanted to win and didn't use the coaching change as an excuse to lose.

I think Briles and Sumlin are both scum but not because they ran off for better opportunities. I don't care when they left, the coogs should have been fired up to beat TCU and Southern Miss, especially Southern Miss with all that was riding on that game.

Sumlin "coached" the Southern Miss game, failed miserably and then left. Levine coached the bowl game that year against Penn St. and won.
There really is no excuse for the TCU loss if you ignore the fact there wasn't a coaching staff and TCU had a pretty good team that year. I was at the TCU game and UH was pretty fired up, sans a coaching staff and all.

(01-22-2014 10:03 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  Fred Hoiberg not only played basketball at Iowa State, he grew up in Ames, so he's really a hometown boy.

Wow. Not many people grow up in Ames. Metro area of 90,000. I think it's the smallest city for any P-5 school.

(01-22-2014 01:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 10:03 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  Fred Hoiberg not only played basketball at Iowa State, he grew up in Ames, so he's really a hometown boy.

Wow. Not many people grow up in Ames. Metro area of 90,000. I think it's the smallest city for any P-5 school.

You'd be surprised. There's a a few smaller. Depends if you want to do it by city pop orMSA.

I know Auburn, Starkville, Oxford, Corvallis, West Lafayette, Clemson, Palo alto and Bloomington are all smaller sized (in general, not necessarily smaller than ames) based on city pop.

(01-23-2014 01:49 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 10:03 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  Fred Hoiberg not only played basketball at Iowa State, he grew up in Ames, so he's really a hometown boy.

Wow. Not many people grow up in Ames. Metro area of 90,000. I think it's the smallest city for any P-5 school.

You'd be surprised. There's a a few smaller. Depends if you want to do it by city pop orMSA.

I know Auburn, Starkville, Oxford, Corvallis, West Lafayette, Clemson, Palo alto and Bloomington are all smaller sized (in general, not necessarily smaller than ames) based on city pop.

Starkville and Oxford both have less than 25,000 residents. Mississippi is such an interesting state... it is just small town after small town, and 3 of the 10 largest ones are a stone throw from Memphis, so that counts more as suburb. Jackson is the only city over 75,000.

(01-23-2014 03:00 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 01:49 AM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 10:03 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  Fred Hoiberg not only played basketball at Iowa State, he grew up in Ames, so he's really a hometown boy.

Wow. Not many people grow up in Ames. Metro area of 90,000. I think it's the smallest city for any P-5 school.

You'd be surprised. There's a a few smaller. Depends if you want to do it by city pop orMSA.

I know Auburn, Starkville, Oxford, Corvallis, West Lafayette, Clemson, Palo alto and Bloomington are all smaller sized (in general, not necessarily smaller than ames) based on city pop.

Starkville and Oxford both have less than 25,000 residents. Mississippi is such an interesting state... it is just small town after small town. Jackson is the only city over 75,000.

It's a similar situation to UCONN. Storrs, CT only has a population of about 15,000, but the state of Connecticut as a whole follows UCONN as their team. That's about 3.6 million.

People in both states really get into their college programs because neither state has a homegrown professional team.