(01-20-2014 11:04 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:02 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Christianity was invented as a mechanism of control, and it is astoundingly good at doing just that. It's influence, however, is waning in western society. It's had a good run, but it's coming to an end. It will only be a few more generations before it falls below majority status in America. It's interesting to think about what, if anything, will rise to take its place.

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Ole, Arn, Ric, and Tully? I doubt it.

Today's new atheism is also a religion.

(01-20-2014 11:04 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:02 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  k

I changed that to "modern Christianity." Some forms of religion do scare me.

I'm Southern Baptist, have been since I can remember. My dad is a deacon, my mom a Sunday School teacher... They get mad at me for not going every Sunday, I go maybe once every two months but my faith hasn't been changed. It's been tested, but God won out, and always will. Having said that, there are also "religions" out there that I question, but none that scare me since I have full faith in mine.

(01-20-2014 10:54 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 10:02 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  OP-

Anti-christs is clearly not the correct term. That would be like calling adults the grinch during Christmas time simply because they no longer believe in Santa. Anti-theists is the best term for what you describe.

I agree Anti-theist is a good term for a general use against all religions. I also like Jugnaut's response of Misotheism. Now with this in mind, would you say the atheists who put up the anti-christmas billboard in NYC are falsely labeling themselves and are actually anti-theists or misotheists? Also, going deeper, since it was directed at Christianity what would be the specific term for someone who only hates Christianity? Would AntiChrists fit this context?

Misotheism is certainly not correct. It would truly be absurd to be an atheist and a misotheist. How can you hate that which you don't believe to exist?
As for the billboard story: I'm not entirely sure. Was the billboard hateful? Based on my limited knowledge of this story, these people are probably atheists who happen to be anti-theists. I don't pay attention to this sort of news.
The anti-christ is an actual Christian concept. An adversary to Jesus. So it obviously doesn't make sense to use that term. Someone who specifically hates Christianity could naturally be called an anti-Christian.

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

(01-20-2014 11:11 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I'm Southern Baptist, have been since I can remember. My dad is a deacon, my mom a Sunday School teacher... They get mad at me for not going every Sunday, I go maybe once every two months but my faith hasn't been changed. It's been tested, but God won out, and always will. Having said that, there are also "religions" out there that I question, but none that scare me since I have full faith in mine.

That's good. I'm scared of stuff that could potentially harm me since I'm biological.

(01-20-2014 11:16 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:11 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I'm Southern Baptist, have been since I can remember. My dad is a deacon, my mom a Sunday School teacher... They get mad at me for not going every Sunday, I go maybe once every two months but my faith hasn't been changed. It's been tested, but God won out, and always will. Having said that, there are also "religions" out there that I question, but none that scare me since I have full faith in mine.

That's good. I'm scared of stuff that could potentially harm me since I'm biological.

We're all biodegradable too. What do you think will happen to you when you die?

(01-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

actually it is not. It meets the definition of religion. Religion must meet 3 requirements.

1. Faith
2. Following
3 Prophets

(01-20-2014 11:19 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:16 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:11 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I'm Southern Baptist, have been since I can remember. My dad is a deacon, my mom a Sunday School teacher... They get mad at me for not going every Sunday, I go maybe once every two months but my faith hasn't been changed. It's been tested, but God won out, and always will. Having said that, there are also "religions" out there that I question, but none that scare me since I have full faith in mine.

That's good. I'm scared of stuff that could potentially harm me since I'm biological.

We're all biodegradable too. What do you think will happen to you when you die?

idk. I'm sure I'll biodegrade.

(01-20-2014 11:20 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

actually it is not. It meets the definition of religion. Religion must meet 3 requirements.

1. Faith
2. Following
3 Prophets

It has 1/3. It has a following. Atheists and agnostics are non-religious by definition.

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:04 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:02 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Christianity was invented as a mechanism of control, and it is astoundingly good at doing just that. It's influence, however, is waning in western society. It's had a good run, but it's coming to an end. It will only be a few more generations before it falls below majority status in America. It's interesting to think about what, if anything, will rise to take its place.

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Ole, Arn, Ric, and Tully? I doubt it.

There's some of that good ol Biblical ignorance talked about earlier. Thanks for posting...

(01-20-2014 11:21 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:20 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

actually it is not. It meets the definition of religion. Religion must meet 3 requirements.

1. Faith
2. Following
3 Prophets

It has 1/3. It has a following. Atheists and agnostics are non-religious by definition.

I'm sorry but that is incorrect. You would be correct if you were refering to true atheism.

I am referring to new atheism - which is a movement based in fear of mortality and accountability.

(01-20-2014 11:21 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:20 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

actually it is not. It meets the definition of religion. Religion must meet 3 requirements.

1. Faith
2. Following
3 Prophets

It has 1/3. It has a following. Atheists and agnostics are non-religious by definition.

There are many things that aren't fitting their intended definition these days. Take a look at Westboro, there is absolutely nothing Baptist about that cult, and nothing remotely close to a church. They're merely a hate group.

(01-20-2014 11:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm sorry but that is incorrect. You would be correct if you were refering to true atheism.

I am referring to new atheism - which is a movement based in fear of mortality and accountability.

Are you kidding me? Atheism's rise in popularity is based on fear of death? How? What about Christianity and the other religions? Which promise eternal life. You're getting silly now.
Accountability? lol?

actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm sorry but that is incorrect. You would be correct if you were refering to true atheism.

I am referring to new atheism - which is a movement based in fear of mortality and accountability.

Are you kidding me? Atheism's rise in popularity is based on fear of death? How? What about Christianity and the other religions? Which promise eternal life. You're getting silly now.
Accountability? lol?

Yes....and that is a main effect of people without a moral foundation.

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

Exactly, and they give Baptists and churches a bad name because they add it to their own name...

(01-20-2014 11:32 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

Exactly, and they give Baptists and churches a bad name because they add it to their own name...

That's the intention. The worst thing people of faith can do is lash out at the WBC. That is what they want.

(01-20-2014 11:30 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm sorry but that is incorrect. You would be correct if you were refering to true atheism.

I am referring to new atheism - which is a movement based in fear of mortality and accountability.

Are you kidding me? Atheism's rise in popularity is based on fear of death? How? What about Christianity and the other religions? Which promise eternal life. You're getting silly now.
Accountability? lol?

Yes....and that is a main effect of people without a moral foundation.

Explain how it is based on fear of mortality? That is the exact opposite! How is it not very clear logic to you that Christianity is the one based in fear of mortality?

(01-20-2014 11:34 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:30 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm sorry but that is incorrect. You would be correct if you were refering to true atheism.

I am referring to new atheism - which is a movement based in fear of mortality and accountability.

Are you kidding me? Atheism's rise in popularity is based on fear of death? How? What about Christianity and the other religions? Which promise eternal life. You're getting silly now.
Accountability? lol?

Yes....and that is a main effect of people without a moral foundation.

Explain how it is based on fear of mortality? That is the exact opposite! How is it not very clear logic to you that Christianity is the one based in fear of mortality?

Because true atheists don't need a God to not believe in..

The new atheist movement sees religion as a constant reminder of their lack of accountability.