(01-28-2014 05:14 PM)Terry Wrote:  The Mosser Company, of Fremont and Maumee, was the low bidder, and The Speiker Company of Perrysburg was second.

Thanks for the update Terry. Please keep us posted on when they pick the winning company and things get going. I think they want to get underway by second week of Feb and go fast.

If Mosser is selected as the general contractor, they want to start ASAP. I was told that every day the project goes past the projected completion date ( I think is August 1st) they get dinged $3,000 per day. They will be in a hurry to get it done.........

Hopefully it gets completed, but not at the expense of the project. Could some of the cracks in the floor on the Savage project be attributed to the speed of the project or the general design? Did stuff not set up long enough?

Concrete cracks


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(01-29-2014 01:52 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Concrete cracks


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That's too simple a response.

The cracks in Savage and the business expansion, are both worth questioning, let alone the extremely poor performance of new walkways around UTs campus.

I don't recall seeing these things in older buildings or on other campuses (Owens, BG), including new construction. Just anecdotal observation though.

(01-29-2014 02:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 01:52 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Concrete cracks


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That's too simple a response.

The cracks in Savage and the business expansion, are both worth questioning, let alone the extremely poor performance of new walkways around UTs campus.

I don't recall seeing these things in older buildings or on other campuses (Owens, BG), including new construction. Just anecdotal observation though.

The cracking of the concrete in the Savage Sullivan addition is totally unacceptable. I know they went with concrete instead of terrazzo because of the cost, but long-term it was a bad move. Whoever did the installation should have provided a warranty. And the mezzanine expansion joint areas where the new concrete meets the old is a real mess. But that's another story.

P.S. - Most of the older buildings at UT have terrazzo floors.

(01-29-2014 03:48 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 01:52 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Concrete cracks


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That's too simple a response.

The cracks in Savage and the business expansion, are both worth questioning, let alone the extremely poor performance of new walkways around UTs campus.

I don't recall seeing these things in older buildings or on other campuses (Owens, BG), including new construction. Just anecdotal observation though.

The cracking of the concrete in the Savage Sullivan addition is totally unacceptable. I know they went with concrete instead of terrazzo because of the cost, but long-term it was a bad move. Whoever did the installation should have provided a warranty. And the mezzanine expansion joint areas where the new concrete meets the old is a real mess. But that's another story.


P.S. - Most of the older buildings at UT have terrazzo floors.

When it comes to concrete, there's two types:
1) The type has cracked, and
2) The type that going to crack

(01-29-2014 01:52 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Concrete cracks


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Yep...it you find concrete without cracks...just give it time

There are alot of things that factor into concrete cracking and without a detailed look at the mix design its hard to say what, typically, cracking happens when the movement of the slab was underestimated, the concrete wasnt cured properly, the mix design was off, or insufficient joints were made (either in number or depth). Without being on the design or construction team its hard to say which...my guess would be a combo of all of them. Terrazo is great because due to its finish, hairline cracks tend of blend in and go unnoticed...unfortunatly its expensive.

Thy do make a nice overlay material thats a urethane impregnated mortar style thats flexible and looks like concrete...I believe its pigmentable too...but again, pricey. I did see a nice use of a fractured slab with acid based concrete stain where they used the cracks as stain division lines and turned it into a nice artsy look...When done it loked awesome.

Id rather see the team win in a cracked gym that lose in a pristine palace :)

A little bird told me that construction is under way! Hopefully our loyal Rocket alums up in Toledo can keep us posted on what you see and hear!

(02-03-2014 09:53 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  Walked around Lot 10 after the womens b-ball game yesterday and noticed grade stakes around the perimeter of the existing Larimer. The grade marker at the northwest corner of the building is precariously close (within 2 feet) to the access road. They probably will need to reconfigure that roadway. Overall the north corners of the comlex will be bumped out, along with the existing wall facing lot 10. Nothing that we didn't already know, except the addition should be larger than we originally thought.

(01-29-2014 04:54 PM)letsgoblue Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 03:48 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 02:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(01-29-2014 01:52 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Concrete cracks


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That's too simple a response.

The cracks in Savage and the business expansion, are both worth questioning, let alone the extremely poor performance of new walkways around UTs campus.

I don't recall seeing these things in older buildings or on other campuses (Owens, BG), including new construction. Just anecdotal observation though.

The cracking of the concrete in the Savage Sullivan addition is totally unacceptable. I know they went with concrete instead of terrazzo because of the cost, but long-term it was a bad move. Whoever did the installation should have provided a warranty. And the mezzanine expansion joint areas where the new concrete meets the old is a real mess. But that's another story.


P.S. - Most of the older buildings at UT have terrazzo floors.

When it comes to concrete, there's two types:
1) The type has cracked, and
2) The type that going to crack

And third type, as Arthur S. Langenderfer used to say, "Base for asphalt."

Here's a link to an interview with recently committed Toledo football recruit, Dedric Brinson. In the article, Brinson is quoted "...I got to see the new athletic facility (Larimer Athletic Facility) that will look amazing when it is done. It will be special to be the first incoming class in the new building with brand new lockers. Overall, the visit went great."

We Rocket fans want to hear more of that.



Link:

http://toledo.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1605848

(02-04-2014 10:29 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Here's a link to an interview with recently committed Toledo football recruit, Dedric Brinson. In the article, Brinson is quoted "...I got to see the new athletic facility (Larimer Athletic Facility) that will look amazing when it is done. It will be special to be the first incoming class in the new building with brand new lockers. Overall, the visit went great."

We Rocket fans want to hear more of that.



Link:

http://toledo.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1605848

Brinson sounds like the kind of kid that you want in your program. Very ambitious while having pride and being humble. I hope his skills are just as impressive.

Hi guys any construction activity taking place at Larimer?

Big Fence out to the edge of Lot 10, couple of front end loaders parked out front and a bunch of stakes. You can see the weight room is empty. Pretty much as looked the same for the past couple of weeks.

(01-14-2014 04:54 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 04:36 PM)Terry Wrote:  Bids from General Contractors are due, and to be opened this Thursday at 3:00 pm. I've got a set of the site plans and may bid as a site subcontractor. We'll see.

I know start date is set for sometime in February.

Put a bid in. We could use an inside man to keep us updated!

Talked with coach Campbell at the basketball game on Wednesday. They are in the process of gutting the inside right now,

Based on the evolution of renovations and upgrades I would not be surprised one bit to see it continue in the future under the current leadership. If you take a look at things they have tackled each need one at a time and about on pace for each two years. Savage Arena had the most need along with added facilities and offices hence adding the Sullivan Athletic complex. About two years later the Fetterman indoor along with the golf, basketball, and track upgrades came next. Right after that the Alumni Association got the Alumni pavillian next to the glass bowl done, and now the Larimer expansion and renovation. I would not be surprised to see baseball, soccer, etc moved onto the main campus where vacant land now sits from the demolition of the older dorms. I believe a higher ranking UT official had made such a reference. I also have a strong feeling that renovation and upgrades to the Glass Bowl will be in the next two years.

Further lets remember that UT has very little debt, actually one of the lowest debt levels of any University in Ohio, further the endowment is growing, and money is set aside in each annual budget for renovation. Dr. Jacobs has said they will stick to a "no new footers" in the ground approach meaning no brand new buildings unless absolutely necessary, but however using moneys for upgrade & expansion to existing buildings. What has been done in the past supports that effort very much. Fetterman was new and we do have a new pharmacy building on the Health science campus but I do believe the majority of other projects each and every year have been renovation. We do have some beautiful buildings so I am very happy about this approach in general.

(01-22-2014 09:35 AM)tampabayrocketfan Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 09:03 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 06:22 PM)Terry Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 01:09 PM)Terry Wrote:  For some reason the bid process has been extended until this coming Monday, January 27th. Don't know if the all the previous bids came in over budget. Or if the General contractors are having trouble getting prices on some of the "specialty" items required for an athletic building.

that's it for now- The Inside Man.......

Found out bids came in over budget. Some cuts made to plans. Next bid opening on Monday.

Wonder if some of the bids could come in a tad lower the second time around.

Some changes in materials/plans and a second go around can be helpful for all parties involved. I built our office from the ground up and you can save a lot of money doing many different things that doesnt change things a whole lot. For example I learned that an open ceiling that looks industrial is actually much more expensive then celing tiles. So we enclosed some of the ceiling wiht tiles but still left much of it with an open look. Also changing composites and such in lounges, kitchens, and baths can make a big difference. Stuff like that!

I talked with a UT official yesterday and he was unaware of any changes to the Larimer plans…and everything is on track.