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$EC Network to charge $1.30 per subscriber
(01-21-2014 01:22 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  
(01-13-2014 01:13 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I have zero desire for access to the SEC Network and hate that it is foisted upon me against my will.

Me too. Same goes for Notre Dame.

If you really want to see a game you can watch online for free. If this is added I am gone. All you need is Netflix and Hulu Plus to see sitcoms you want
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Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?
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(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

Because I have the LHN, BTN, PAC and now the SEC forced upon me
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(01-22-2014 10:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

Because I have the LHN, BTN, PAC and now the SEC forced upon me

Well at least you finally got a network worth the 25 cents a month. I bet all the networks you mentioned total less than a buck. Do we sell our cars when the gas goes up a buck?
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(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

The BTN killed the love of a good game. It is now about the $, not the game.
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(01-22-2014 10:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 07:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Is all this cash raked in by the SEC going to inflate the market for pay day games?

Is Arkansas State going to make 5 million for playing at Alabama now? That could be a game changer if G5 schools can literally (not figuratively) pay for their entire operating budget with a couple of mega pay days.

USM just signed a $1.4 million deal with Alabama.

Anyone who thinks the P5 will push to reduce the size of FBS aren't paying attention to the basic economics.

The G5 just got a nice rise for signing the CFP deal, the equivalent of playing one money game per year.

More G5 are going to pare back their slate of money games. Arkansas State has cut back to one.

You constrain the supply of schools desperate for a check you constrain the supply of non-returned games but do nothing to reduce the demand. There is always going to be demand for 2 to 4 games out-of-conference that you ought to win.

They would also rather line up an AState type school where there is potential of a TV game because of its Top Tier G5 status over a lessor opponent.

The gate check on pushing payday games upward I believe might have to do more with P5 home game prices which have leveled off after a steep climb in the 2000's.
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(01-22-2014 11:07 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

The BTN killed the love of a good game. It is now about the $, not the game.

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(01-23-2014 07:33 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 11:07 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

The BTN killed the love of a good game. It is now about the $, not the game.

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Exactly He1nous! If we can't have one let's tear down what somebody else is doing. There's way too much of this around here these days. Folks should discuss the positives of their programs, and if you're going to be negative then enjoy the latest scandal but this incessant piss and envy gets way too old too fast and kills threads.

Thank God for the BTN. It simply showed the other conferences what they had been missing. I do think that the SEC approach is going to be more news and live programming. Now that conference networks exist they will evolve in ways that will make them more compelling television.

I think there are ways that they will eventually be used to serve a greater number of schools and in many more ways than just sports.
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I've got no beef with BTN, I don't watch many games on the network but until I can hit the channel guide or call up on an app on my TV and choose from any of the FBS games being played that day, there still isn't enough football on TV.
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(01-22-2014 10:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 05:28 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Update:

Quote:Justin Connolly (ESPN Senior VP for College Programming) was asked if the @SECNetwork would be packaged the same as the LHN. His response: "No, we learned our lesson."

03-lmfao

Yet UT keeps cashing the checks

A gilded cage is still a cage...and ESPN has the only key and no reason in the world to let them out of it.

That's the brilliant part about LHN. They didn't just buy tier 3 rights, they bought control over the realignment options for an entire conference.
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(01-22-2014 11:07 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

The BTN killed the love of a good game. It is now about the $, not the game.

Yeah, before BTN came along it wasn't about the money at all. Remember back in the halcyon days of 2006 when college sports was completely pure and innocent and free of greed and money-grubbing?
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(01-23-2014 07:58 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-23-2014 07:33 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 11:07 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Do you realize that you are in total rebellion over 25 cents if you live outside the SEC footprint? I do not live in the B1G footprint, but I pay for the B1G network, because a good game is a good game, regardless of the location. Where has the love for a good game gone?

The BTN killed the love of a good game. It is now about the $, not the game.

03-zzz

Exactly He1nous! If we can't have one let's tear down what somebody else is doing. There's way too much of this around here these days. Folks should discuss the positives of their programs, and if you're going to be negative then enjoy the latest scandal but this incessant piss and envy gets way too old too fast and kills threads.

Thank God for the BTN. It simply showed the other conferences what they had been missing. I do think that the SEC approach is going to be more news and live programming. Now that conference networks exist they will evolve in ways that will make them more compelling television.

I think there are ways that they will eventually be used to serve a greater number of schools and in many more ways than just sports.

Yes and hopefully the folks running the BTN learn from what ESPN and the SEC do with their Network. I see it as a good thing.
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(01-23-2014 09:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I've got no beef with BTN, I don't watch many games on the network but until I can hit the channel guide or call up on an app on my TV and choose from any of the FBS games being played that day, there still isn't enough football on TV.
I think you're getting closer to that - Fox Sports finally has a mobile app to compete with WatchESPN. If CBS gets one, and NBC can get meaningful non-Olympic and non-Notre Dame content for their app, that day may be here sooner than later.
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I don't watch a second of the BTN. I won't watch a second of the SEC Network.

I can't imagine anyone outside of the ACC having one speck of interest in any possible future ACC Network.

I don't want a nickel of my money going to the Big Ten or SEC. It is extortion to make me pay for content that I dislike, not merely don't watch.

And before anyone talks about "bundling" versus ala carte, I don't care if TV retracts to three channels again.
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(01-22-2014 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
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(01-13-2014 01:13 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I have zero desire for access to the SEC Network and hate that it is foisted upon me against my will.

Me too. Same goes for Notre Dame.

If you really want to see a game you can watch online for free. If this is added I am gone. All you need is Netflix and Hulu Plus to see sitcoms you want

The difference is that NBC is an over the air network that does not charge people a fee for something that they do not want to watch.
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(01-24-2014 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I don't watch a second of the BTN. I won't watch a second of the SEC Network.

I can't imagine anyone outside of the ACC having one speck of interest in any possible future ACC Network.

I don't want a nickel of my money going to the Big Ten or SEC. It is extortion to make me pay for content that I dislike, not merely don't watch.

And before anyone talks about "bundling" versus ala carte, I don't care if TV retracts to three channels again.

I really do wonder if when we look back on the industry changes five or ten years from now, that these conference networks might not mark the time the cable companies went to the bundling well once too often.

I can see a huge groundswell of people thinking like this and being pissed off about it enough to finally buck against the system. And since all of this is ESPN-driven and since ESPN is supposedly massively subsidized by bundling, they may rue the day that they went down this road.
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(01-24-2014 11:41 AM)JunkYardCard Wrote:  
(01-24-2014 11:27 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I don't watch a second of the BTN. I won't watch a second of the SEC Network.

I can't imagine anyone outside of the ACC having one speck of interest in any possible future ACC Network.

I don't want a nickel of my money going to the Big Ten or SEC. It is extortion to make me pay for content that I dislike, not merely don't watch.

And before anyone talks about "bundling" versus ala carte, I don't care if TV retracts to three channels again.

I really do wonder if when we look back on the industry changes five or ten years from now, that these conference networks might not mark the time the cable companies went to the bundling well once too often.

I can see a huge groundswell of people thinking like this and being pissed off about it enough to finally buck against the system. And since all of this is ESPN-driven and since ESPN is supposedly massively subsidized by bundling, they may rue the day that they went down this road.

Interesting discussion. Looking back just a few years, it is easy to see all of the once profitable enterprises (CDs, video store on every corner, the computer superstore, etc.) that have been largely reduced to the dustbin of history by an ever changing market where technological shifts are constantly occurring.

IMO, people who look at the CURRENT status-quo and assume that the current environment will be frozen in time forever are naive. I chuckle when fans of a particular conference gleefully project out what they expect conference earnings will be well into the future based on numerous assumptions which may or may not pan out as some TODAY expect.

Just my opionion, but I think many of the projections bandied about in these threads are based on speculative assumptions:

1. Will conferences who form their own networks convince millions of subscribers to pay extra $$ for cable access to these networks? People forget that even in the most rabid sports regions, actual fan viewership that follow Team A or B are still a minority of the total viewers. If a sporting event does a 35 share - a huge number, doesn't that mean that the majority of viewers at that time are watching something else? The value proposition put forth here is that enough of these viewers will acquiesce to paying a premium for something they will not be watching is an interesting theory.

2. The other thing I chuckle about is when posters in these threads compare the CURRENT media deals that a conference may enjoy and assume that any disparities between conferences will exist forever going forward. Most of these deals will be up for renegotiation within 10-12 years after they have been concluded; and during that time so much can happen. At the very least, major technological change and population shifts will have a huge impact on how future deals are struck. Since most of these conferences have been in existence for many decades - in some cases 75 years or so, a 10-12 year TV deal is not a huge amount of time.

Of course, we will see how it all plays out in the future.
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(01-24-2014 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-21-2014 01:22 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  
(01-13-2014 01:13 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I have zero desire for access to the SEC Network and hate that it is foisted upon me against my will.

Me too. Same goes for Notre Dame.

If you really want to see a game you can watch online for free. If this is added I am gone. All you need is Netflix and Hulu Plus to see sitcoms you want

The difference is that NBC is an over the air network that does not charge people a fee for something that they do not want to watch.

Check again. Most NBC affiliates demand and get carriage fees.
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NBC also has a cable sports network. Right now the only college football on NBCSN is the CAA, but I'd expect that to change in the near future.
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(01-24-2014 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(01-22-2014 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-21-2014 01:22 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  
(01-13-2014 01:13 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I have zero desire for access to the SEC Network and hate that it is foisted upon me against my will.

Me too. Same goes for Notre Dame.

If you really want to see a game you can watch online for free. If this is added I am gone. All you need is Netflix and Hulu Plus to see sitcoms you want

The difference is that NBC is an over the air network that does not charge people a fee for something that they do not want to watch.

It is not free to many of us. NBC, CBS, Fox, and ABC are part of a "local" channels package on DISH and Direct TV we have to pay for in many areas. Just clearing that up a bit...04-cheers
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