(01-13-2014 12:01 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 11:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So I see the worst-realistic case scenario as 12-4 in C-USA standings, and probably 13-3 or 14-2. Even 15-1 is not impossible, but with the loss already @Tulsa that would be tough.

Based off of what happened this weekend, I don't see Southern Miss having a shot at 15-1 anymore.

15-1 = 10% likelihood
14-2 = 33%
13-3 = 35%
12-4 = 20%
11-5 or worse = 2%

(01-13-2014 11:11 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Bottom teams winning may not be good for the Conference, but it is starting to feel good for ODU fans.

After a disastrous 5-win 2013 season, firing a coach before the end of a season, and hiring a coach who has been, to at least some Monarch fans (by the way I am not one of them), a controversial hire, this is clearly a rebuilding season at ODU. The team is now 7-9 with wins over George Mason and East Carolina in its last two games, and this group appears to be coming together much better than many anticipated, with the last game against ECU clearly being their best effort of the year.

The next two games are on the road against the two F-U's, and many Monarch fans are beginning to see reason to believe it is possible for the Monarcsh to be 9-9 and 3-0 in conference when they return home to play USM.

Bottom line: ODU was not expected to make any noise this year, but don't be surprised if this ODU team doesn't have some real impact before the season is over. Let me be clear. I am not making any grandiose predictions, but I am encouraged and cautiously optimistic based on the progress I have observed. I believe a .500 season is now a possiblity, when early on we were just hoping for an improvement over last year's record.

Here's hoping this bottom team continues to win games it is not supposed to win!

I'm kind of feeling the same way, but don't get too excited. ECU is a perfect matchup for ODU. They don't have depth and absolutely no size just like the monarchs. Whoever has a somewhat decent 6'9" big, ODU is gonna be in trouble especially if Ross picks up cheap fouls. Heres to progress though

(01-13-2014 12:13 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 12:01 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 11:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So I see the worst-realistic case scenario as 12-4 in C-USA standings, and probably 13-3 or 14-2. Even 15-1 is not impossible, but with the loss already @Tulsa that would be tough.

Based off of what happened this weekend, I don't see Southern Miss having a shot at 15-1 anymore.

15-1 = 10% likelihood
14-2 = 33%
13-3 = 35%
12-4 = 20%
11-5 or worse = 2%

A 10% chance they run the table from this point on? Nope. I'd put it closer to 1% than 10%

(01-13-2014 12:44 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 12:13 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 12:01 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 11:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So I see the worst-realistic case scenario as 12-4 in C-USA standings, and probably 13-3 or 14-2. Even 15-1 is not impossible, but with the loss already @Tulsa that would be tough.

Based off of what happened this weekend, I don't see Southern Miss having a shot at 15-1 anymore.

15-1 = 10% likelihood
14-2 = 33%
13-3 = 35%
12-4 = 20%
11-5 or worse = 2%

A 10% chance they run the table from this point on? Nope. I'd put it closer to 1% than 10%

This is from RPI Forecast and is for D1 games only. Uses the Sagarin Predictor to project likely outcomes for all games.
26-3 1.08%
25-4 6.22%
24-5 16.79%
22-7 23.54%
21-8 16.50%
20-9 6.99%
19-10 2.54%
18-11 0.60%
17-12 0.07%

(01-13-2014 12:14 PM)monarchbball90 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 11:11 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Bottom teams winning may not be good for the Conference, but it is starting to feel good for ODU fans.

After a disastrous 5-win 2013 season, firing a coach before the end of a season, and hiring a coach who has been, to at least some Monarch fans (by the way I am not one of them), a controversial hire, this is clearly a rebuilding season at ODU. The team is now 7-9 with wins over George Mason and East Carolina in its last two games, and this group appears to be coming together much better than many anticipated, with the last game against ECU clearly being their best effort of the year.

The next two games are on the road against the two F-U's, and many Monarch fans are beginning to see reason to believe it is possible for the Monarcsh to be 9-9 and 3-0 in conference when they return home to play USM.

Bottom line: ODU was not expected to make any noise this year, but don't be surprised if this ODU team doesn't have some real impact before the season is over. Let me be clear. I am not making any grandiose predictions, but I am encouraged and cautiously optimistic based on the progress I have observed. I believe a .500 season is now a possiblity, when early on we were just hoping for an improvement over last year's record.

Here's hoping this bottom team continues to win games it is not supposed to win!

I'm kind of feeling the same way, but don't get too excited. ECU is a perfect matchup for ODU. They don't have depth and absolutely no size just like the monarchs. Whoever has a somewhat decent 6'9" big, ODU is gonna be in trouble especially if Ross picks up cheap fouls. Heres to progress though

Good to know because UTEP's John Bohannon 6'11" had 18 pts, 14 rebs and 7 assist against Marshall on Sat., and 23 pts with 8 rebs. and 6 assist in a loss against Charlotte on Thursday.

I think 12-4 or 11-5 is most likely for us.

(01-13-2014 12:56 PM)stanman505 Wrote:  Good to know because UTEP's John Bohannon 6'11" had 18 pts, 14 rebs and 7 assist against Marshall on Sat., and 23 pts with 8 rebs. and 6 assist in a loss against Charlotte on Thursday.

We only have 1 guy that could match up in height and he's on the team for his 4.x gpa right now. Although he played his role in the 4 min he played at ECU.

(01-13-2014 12:14 PM)monarchbball90 Wrote:  I'm kind of feeling the same way, but don't get too excited. ECU is a perfect matchup for ODU. They don't have depth and absolutely no size just like the monarchs. Whoever has a somewhat decent 6'9" big, ODU is gonna be in trouble especially if Ross picks up cheap fouls. Heres to progress though

That excuse from Lebo and our fans should have long run it's course with with anyone that actually follows our program. We have both size and plenty adequate depth, Lebo just doesn't play beyond 7 players or play either of our bigs much because he chooses to play 4 guards, but uses it as an excuse in every post game which everyone here runs with.

We have a 6-9, 235lb low foul guy but that Lebo only played 18 minutes vs you guys and that only averages 19 minutes a game which insults our intelligence if you are going to blame our problems on size when he's on the bench because you don't play him. That guy is very productive and averages about 10 and 5 in only 19 minutes on 55% shooting. We also had a senior who played more as a freshman come off the bench for the first time in non garbage time and put 12 points on you guys.

He's looked very capable every time he's played the last few years of being a rotation player but Lebo never plays him then blames only having 7 players when we got 9 scholarships including this guy who is a senior and played a good bit as a freshman. 7 players is plenty of depth too. He could play all seven 28 minutes a game if he really wanted too which is not high minutes.. I'm fine with the rotations I'm just sick of it being used as an excuse. We seriously have one of the best 6-9+ guy in the league and he could play another 15 minutes if he wanted to play him.

(01-12-2014 09:59 PM)Niner National Wrote:  It's a really bad league this year.

We've been saying that annually since UNCC (and others) left the first time.

(01-13-2014 12:56 PM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 12:14 PM)monarchbball90 Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 11:11 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Bottom teams winning may not be good for the Conference, but it is starting to feel good for ODU fans.

After a disastrous 5-win 2013 season, firing a coach before the end of a season, and hiring a coach who has been, to at least some Monarch fans (by the way I am not one of them), a controversial hire, this is clearly a rebuilding season at ODU. The team is now 7-9 with wins over George Mason and East Carolina in its last two games, and this group appears to be coming together much better than many anticipated, with the last game against ECU clearly being their best effort of the year.

The next two games are on the road against the two F-U's, and many Monarch fans are beginning to see reason to believe it is possible for the Monarcsh to be 9-9 and 3-0 in conference when they return home to play USM.

Bottom line: ODU was not expected to make any noise this year, but don't be surprised if this ODU team doesn't have some real impact before the season is over. Let me be clear. I am not making any grandiose predictions, but I am encouraged and cautiously optimistic based on the progress I have observed. I believe a .500 season is now a possiblity, when early on we were just hoping for an improvement over last year's record.

Here's hoping this bottom team continues to win games it is not supposed to win!

I'm kind of feeling the same way, but don't get too excited. ECU is a perfect matchup for ODU. They don't have depth and absolutely no size just like the monarchs. Whoever has a somewhat decent 6'9" big, ODU is gonna be in trouble especially if Ross picks up cheap fouls. Heres to progress though

Good to know because UTEP's John Bohannon 6'11" had 18 pts, 14 rebs and 7 assist against Marshall on Sat., and 23 pts with 8 rebs. and 6 assist in a loss against Charlotte on Thursday.

ugh. that guys gives me nightmares already.

Zangari's numbers vs just D1 only is actually even better.

10.8 ppg
4.2 rpg
59%
19.2 minutes per game


He's one of the most talented offensive players in CUSA period. He's probably already the best low post offensive big in CUSA as there isn't even a 6-8 guy averaging over 14.5ppg. If he was playing 32 minutes a game like Morrow did a couple years ago his numbers would most likely look closer to this with what he is doing per minute.

18ppg
7 rpg
59%
32 minutes

That's essentially the caliber of 6-9, 235lb guy we have on the bench over half the game then Lebo and fans use the excuse we have no size when he could easily play another 10+ minutes and Stith could as well if Lebo wanted him out there. It's not like he's a stiff that doesn't bring value when he's on the court or have size.

Well, monarchbball90, it appears we touched a sore spot with some Pirate fans. What ever the reason the Pirate big man doesn't get more playing time, I'm glad he was collecting splinters Saturday evening.

(01-13-2014 04:17 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Well, monarchbball90, it appears we touched a sore spot with some Pirate fans. What ever the reason the Pirate big man doesn't get more playing time, I'm glad he was collecting splinters Saturday evening.

It's a mystery but maybe 50 of the 81 points that ODU scored in the paint had something to do with it? It was literally a layup line for the vertically challenged Monarchs.

ODU scored 1.255 points per possession.

(01-13-2014 03:45 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Zangari's numbers vs just D1 only is actually even better.

10.8 ppg
4.2 rpg
59%
19.2 minutes per game


He's one of the most talented offensive players in CUSA period. He's probably already the best low post offensive big in CUSA as there isn't even a 6-8 guy averaging over 14.5ppg. If he was playing 32 minutes a game like Morrow did a couple years ago his numbers would most likely look closer to this with what he is doing per minute.

18ppg
7 rpg
59%
32 minutes

That's essentially the caliber of 6-9, 235lb guy we have on the bench over half the game then Lebo and fans use the excuse we have no size when he could easily play another 10+ minutes and Stith could as well if Lebo wanted him out there. It's not like he's a stiff that doesn't bring value when he's on the court or have size.

John Bohannon has been averaging 18 pts and 12 reb. since the suspensions. He had some tough games against NMSU, Iowa and Kansas or his numbers for the season would be better than the 11.2 pts and 8.5 rebounds.

You don't have to convince me. I've been singing Bohannon's praises for several years.

(01-12-2014 11:08 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  I cant believe Im about to defend a 7-9 Tulsa team.

Our OOC losses are 96-32 (Wichita State 16-0 , Creighton 13-3, Maryland 10-5, TCU 9-6 , ORU 8-8 , Wisco Green Bay 13-3, Mizz State 13-3)

Our worst losses ORU (8-8) , TCU x 2 (9-6)

Our best wins are against Indiana State (13-3) Southern Miss (14-3) and Tulane

The other 4 wins are against bad teams.

I dont think we are as bad as our record indicates. A lot of those games were woulda coulda shoulda wins where we shot something retarded like 50% from FT. Granted thats part of the game but if we shoot 70% we are 11-5 or even 12-4.

Also lost @ Oklahoma (13-3). Tulsa is still a very young team & is finally starting to show some improvement, after a very slow start.

(01-13-2014 08:08 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  You don't have to convince me. I've been singing Bohannon's praises for several years.

TBH: Average, at best, I'd say.

He's had one of the highest Player Efficiency Ratings and True Shooting percentages in CUSA for 3 years now and UTEP as a team has been +20 and +25 with him on the court every 100 possession which is one of the best too, clearly makes his teams better.

(01-13-2014 04:37 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 04:17 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Well, monarchbball90, it appears we touched a sore spot with some Pirate fans. What ever the reason the Pirate big man doesn't get more playing time, I'm glad he was collecting splinters Saturday evening.

It's a mystery but maybe 50 of the 81 points that ODU scored in the paint had something to do with it? It was literally a layup line for the vertically challenged Monarchs.

ODU scored 1.255 points per possession.

Not just that, but the fact that most of the inside scoring was from a 6'0" guard.

Don't worry

UTEP 66
MU 56

You can always count on Marshall for an easy win.