CFN ranked Carey fourth. He would have been No. 2 if the Huskies didn't lay an egg in the MACC and got to the Fiesta Bowl. I still don't understand how we left so many open receivers running free most of the night. Did anyone with access to the coaching staff get any sort of explanation? Was it bad scheming, horrible execution? I doubt 82 and 85 were that fast or world beaters.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1364270.html

Oh yeah, it was bad scheming. Leave recievers running wide open was totally part of the gameplan.

Thank you for such a well-thought out, insightful response. It's such joy to read the analysis of a well-informed, closely connected expert such as yourself.

(01-14-2014 09:24 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Thank you for such a well-thought out, insightful response. It's such joy to read the analysis of a well-informed, closely connected expert such as yourself.

You forgot to include, condescending and "self-proclaimed"...

It doesn't take an expert to figure out no playcall involves leaving a guy running wide open. You got the response you deserved.

Yes. Of course, you're right. Coaches never make mistakes and they game planned exactly what was called upon. They did an awesome job during the MACC. They should pat themselves on the back and we, the fans, should feel great about the what the defense did that game. Your insight is amazing!

They were running the same defense they ran the 12 games prior. If you want to blame the coaches for players blowing coverages 13(THIRTEEN!!!!!) games in, you're going to literally blame the coaches for everything.

You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

They didn't get outschemed, the secondary was blowing coverages. Look, NIU's corners this year were terrible. Awful. The linebackers were average at best, and the defensive line in conference play was below average. If anything, the coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for getting way more out of that defense then they should have. Remove the BG game, and look how well that defense played from after the EIU game.

It boggles my mind people look to blame the coaches for the debacle in Detroit. There's no logic behind it.

(01-14-2014 01:27 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

Most of our defensive players played like crap that night. No amount of scheming, no amount of adjustments, can compensate for a night when the majority of your defense plays as badly as they did.

Quite simply, our defensive players were not good to begin with, and they played awful that night.

They just played a bad game. That's all there is to it.

(01-14-2014 01:37 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:27 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

Most of our defensive players played like crap that night. No amount of scheming, no amount of adjustments, can compensate for a night when the majority of your defense plays as badly as they did.

Quite simply, our defensive players were not good to begin with, and they played awful that night.

They just played a bad game. That's all there is to it.

It's really that simple.

The coaching staff was putting lipstick on a pig post EIU game (and doing it pretty damn well) and it finally blew up in Detroit.

(01-14-2014 01:41 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:37 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:27 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

Most of our defensive players played like crap that night. No amount of scheming, no amount of adjustments, can compensate for a night when the majority of your defense plays as badly as they did.

Quite simply, our defensive players were not good to begin with, and they played awful that night.

They just played a bad game. That's all there is to it.

It's really that simple.

The coaching staff was putting lipstick on a pig post EIU game (and doing it pretty damn well) and it finally blew up in Detroit.

Go back and watch the game and you'll see our best player was routinely out of position all game. Got beat chasing with his eyes and vacating his zone assignments . He bailed us out all season but that night he was part of the problem.

All, or most, of our issues were off misdirection or play action. Dead give away that it wasn't a scheme issue but just an assignment discipline issue. You can't absolve the coaches completely. BG continued to beat us with the same plan in the 2nd half. Our staff should be commended for halftime adjustments the last couple of years but not that night.

(01-14-2014 04:21 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:41 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:37 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:27 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

Most of our defensive players played like crap that night. No amount of scheming, no amount of adjustments, can compensate for a night when the majority of your defense plays as badly as they did.

Quite simply, our defensive players were not good to begin with, and they played awful that night.

They just played a bad game. That's all there is to it.

It's really that simple.

The coaching staff was putting lipstick on a pig post EIU game (and doing it pretty damn well) and it finally blew up in Detroit.

Go back and watch the game and you'll see our best player was routinely out of position all game. Got beat chasing with his eyes and vacating his zone assignments . He bailed us out all season but that night he was part of the problem.

All, or most, of our issues were off misdirection or play action. Dead give away that it wasn't a scheme issue but just an assignment discipline issue. You can't absolve the coaches completely. BG continued to beat us with the same plan in the 2nd half. Our staff should be commended for halftime adjustments the last couple of years but not that night.

+1

(01-14-2014 04:21 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:41 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:37 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(01-14-2014 01:27 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  You're so right. Why mess with the tremendous amount of defensive success we had all year? BG did exactly what they did all year and we were taken by surprise? I'll bet 5, 82, and 85 had career games against us, so I'm pretty sure they went against their tendency which is what our coaches should have prepared our guys for since we had 10 days. Were our coaches complacent? Why were we so outmanned against a team Toledo beat? I doubt that BG was 20 points better than our guys. It seemed to me their offense was pretty pedestrian all year but unstoppable against us. We were supposed to "finish the fight...''

Most of our defensive players played like crap that night. No amount of scheming, no amount of adjustments, can compensate for a night when the majority of your defense plays as badly as they did.

Quite simply, our defensive players were not good to begin with, and they played awful that night.

They just played a bad game. That's all there is to it.

It's really that simple.

The coaching staff was putting lipstick on a pig post EIU game (and doing it pretty damn well) and it finally blew up in Detroit.

Go back and watch the game and you'll see our best player was routinely out of position all game. Got beat chasing with his eyes and vacating his zone assignments . He bailed us out all season but that night he was part of the problem.

All, or most, of our issues were off misdirection or play action. Dead give away that it wasn't a scheme issue but just an assignment discipline issue. You can't absolve the coaches completely. BG continued to beat us with the same plan in the 2nd half. Our staff should be commended for halftime adjustments the last couple of years but not that night.

I'm not sure where he was supposed to be on that one TD but apparently he was supposed to cover 2 WRs at the same time.