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(01-10-2014 07:32 AM)blazr Wrote:  I don't really know enough about Hilyer, but even if he was my father I don't know that I could compare him with the other three since they coached in FBS. Callaway did everything but win. I'm very tempted to put McGee in the same circle of hell as Brown simply because he just walked away from the players, but McGee also didn't take time to toss a lit match over his shoulder as he left. Brown didn't just leave the house burning down, he lit the fire long before he left and was dancing around it like a mad man until the fire department finally chased him off.

"Callaway did everything but win".

Yeah, those 4-8 seasons with 8,000 people in the stands really brought the excitement. Sometimes I think you were on his payroll.
01-10-2014 09:39 AM
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Sometimes you don't realize how things were until you look back.

Callaway, while he certainly wasn't our choice, made the effort to try and do things right.

I don't we have heard everything about McGee yet, but apparently a lot of the players are relieved.
01-10-2014 09:44 AM
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My Rankings
1. Hilyer
2. TBD
3. TBD
4. Brown
4. Callaway
4. McGee
01-10-2014 09:46 AM
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(01-10-2014 09:39 AM)Montgomery Blazer Wrote:  
(01-10-2014 07:32 AM)blazr Wrote:  I don't really know enough about Hilyer, but even if he was my father I don't know that I could compare him with the other three since they coached in FBS. Callaway did everything but win. I'm very tempted to put McGee in the same circle of hell as Brown simply because he just walked away from the players, but McGee also didn't take time to toss a lit match over his shoulder as he left. Brown didn't just leave the house burning down, he lit the fire long before he left and was dancing around it like a mad man until the fire department finally chased him off.

"Callaway did everything but win".

Yeah, those 4-8 seasons with 8,000 people in the stands really brought the excitement. Sometimes I think you were on his payroll.

I guess it was more exciting to read the police blotter every morning when Brown was here. And you could stop by practice and chat with our best players anytime you wanted (actually, that was the best method as their class schedule was pretty meaningless). I don't know how many words were in my original post, but you pulled out the 5 that deciphered my true agenda of pumping Callaway's rep...like a Dan Brown novel you are.
01-10-2014 09:55 AM
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I'm with Blazr here. Callaway had a lot of issues on the field, some he could control, some he couldn't, but off the field he was a success. I felt like he wanted to be at UAB and was doing everything he could to help the program. McGee flat out quit on us. He went to the bottom of my list the second he made that decision.
01-10-2014 09:58 AM
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(01-10-2014 09:46 AM)ICB Wrote:  My Rankings
1. Hilyer
2. TBD
3. TBD
4. Brown
4. Callaway
4. McGee

+1 The next good coach UAB has in the FBS era will be the first good coach we've had in the FBS era. It's a miracle we still have a program to talk about given the losers we've had on the sidelines since 1995.
01-10-2014 10:03 AM
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I said lots of times that you could argue that Callaway wasn't any good, but I believe he gave it his best shot. I'm not sure I believe that of Watson, and I'm pretty sure I don't of McGee.
01-10-2014 10:05 AM
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Callaway wasn't a PR machine, either, but he never claimed to be. He still gave the effort with the trips to fraternity meeting and other small gatherings. I guess it goes back to what 9911 just posted: he wanted to succeed here for him, for his players, and for UAB. I can fire someone for not getting a job done and still refuse to speak an ill word about them because they earned my respect.
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(01-10-2014 10:05 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I said lots of times that you could argue that Callaway wasn't any good, but I believe he gave it his best shot. I'm not sure I believe that of Watson, and I'm pretty sure I don't of McGee.

It may be semantics, but I think in his last 2 years Watson was giving his best shot against the program for the sake of his ego. I mean, how long do you have to be at UAB to know that enlisting the aid of PBJr, while it might get you a reach around, is going to be BAD for the program? Like opening the door to the henhouse for the fox on his promise that he'll make you head rooster.
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(01-10-2014 09:58 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I'm with Blazr here. Callaway had a lot of issues on the field, some he could control, some he couldn't, but off the field he was a success. I felt like he wanted to be at UAB and was doing everything he could to help the program. McGee flat out quit on us. He went to the bottom of my list the second he made that decision.

Agree as well... Callaway wasn't a success on the field, but he did get us out of the APR mess we were left in after Brown left. We were in in the mid 750's and about to start receiving scholarship reductions when he came in.

I also always felt like Callaway *wanted* to be here and truly cared about his players. He may not have done well, but he did things the right way.
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(01-10-2014 09:46 AM)ICB Wrote:  My Rankings
1. Hilyer
2. TBD
3. TBD
4. Brown
4. Callaway
4. McGee

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01-10-2014 11:42 AM
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(01-10-2014 11:39 AM)OldBlazer Wrote:  
(01-10-2014 09:58 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I'm with Blazr here. Callaway had a lot of issues on the field, some he could control, some he couldn't, but off the field he was a success. I felt like he wanted to be at UAB and was doing everything he could to help the program. McGee flat out quit on us. He went to the bottom of my list the second he made that decision.

Agree as well... Callaway wasn't a success on the field, but he did get us out of the APR mess we were left in after Brown left. We were in in the mid 750's and about to start receiving scholarship reductions when he came in.

I also always felt like Callaway *wanted* to be here and truly cared about his players. He may not have done well, but he did things the right way.

I believe the credit for cleaning up the APR mess goes to Mackin and Garrison. Callaway was just following orders. I guess if he gets credit, then Mike Davis does as well.
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I say the McGee error should be removed from the history books. It never happened. He didn't exist.
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