(01-11-2014 09:31 AM)panama Wrote:  But it is ridiculous to be jumping on UH about MBB attendance when no G5 in the South has great attendance except Memphis.

It's relatively difficult for power conference schools located in major league cities with NBA teams. Last year:

St. John's 7330
UCLA 9549
USC 4242
Northwestern 6389 15 miles from Chicago
DePaul 7681
Temple 5917
Oklahoma 9890 20 miles from Okla City
Villanova 8022
Arizona St 6143 10 miles to Phoenix
Charlotte 6093
Boston College 4244
Georgia Tech 7365
Miami 5814
Washington 7937
Cal 8297 5 miles to Oakland

Schools like Memphis, Marquette and Minnesota who draw 12-16K per game in NBA cities are very rare.

Until this year, Houston was playing minor league college basketball in a major league NBA city. And we were playing it badly. Give us some time. But know our ceiling is going to be about 6000 a game give or take.

If Houston makes the top 4 of AAC, will they go dancing?

(01-11-2014 10:57 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  If Houston makes the top 4 of AAC, will they go dancing?

Nope. Our nonconference was so easy and our nonconference record was so bad that we have to win the conference to make the NCAA

(01-11-2014 10:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 09:31 AM)panama Wrote:  But it is ridiculous to be jumping on UH about MBB attendance when no G5 in the South has great attendance except Memphis.

It's relatively difficult for power conference schools located in major league cities with NBA teams. Last year:

St. John's 7330
UCLA 9549
USC 4242
Northwestern 6389 15 miles from Chicago
DePaul 7681
Temple 5917
Oklahoma 9890 20 miles from Okla City
Villanova 8022
Arizona St 6143 10 miles to Phoenix
Charlotte 6093
Boston College 4244
Georgia Tech 7365
Miami 5814
Washington 7937
Cal 8297 5 miles to Oakland

Schools like Memphis, Marquette and Minnesota who draw 12-16K per game in NBA cities are very rare.

Until this year, Houston was playing minor league college basketball in a major league NBA city. And we were playing it badly. Give us some time. But know our ceiling is going to be about 6000 a game give or take.

And Georgia Tech drew 7300 in a beautiful new $45M arena in the ACC. Very very hard in the South.

(01-11-2014 11:05 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 10:57 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  If Houston makes the top 4 of AAC, will they go dancing?

Nope. Our nonconference was so easy and our nonconference record was so bad that we have to win the conference to make the NCAA

What? But remember this is AAC not CUSA anymore. The league is a quality league.

Pay no attention to Cougar Red. He says a lot of silly things.

(01-11-2014 11:09 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 10:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 09:31 AM)panama Wrote:  But it is ridiculous to be jumping on UH about MBB attendance when no G5 in the South has great attendance except Memphis.

It's relatively difficult for power conference schools located in major league cities with NBA teams. Last year:

St. John's 7330
UCLA 9549
USC 4242
Northwestern 6389 15 miles from Chicago
DePaul 7681
Temple 5917
Oklahoma 9890 20 miles from Okla City
Villanova 8022
Arizona St 6143 10 miles to Phoenix
Charlotte 6093
Boston College 4244
Georgia Tech 7365
Miami 5814
Washington 7937
Cal 8297 5 miles to Oakland

Schools like Memphis, Marquette and Minnesota who draw 12-16K per game in NBA cities are very rare.

Until this year, Houston was playing minor league college basketball in a major league NBA city. And we were playing it badly. Give us some time. But know our ceiling is going to be about 6000 a game give or take.

And Georgia Tech drew 7300 in a beautiful new $45M arena in the ACC. Very very hard in the South.

I just noticed that there are only four southern city schools in the Top 100 in attendance and only Memphis is in the Top 50.

(01-11-2014 11:10 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:05 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 10:57 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  If Houston makes the top 4 of AAC, will they go dancing?

Nope. Our nonconference was so easy and our nonconference record was so bad that we have to win the conference to make the NCAA

What? But remember this is AAC not CUSA anymore. The league is a quality league.

I understand. But even if we finish 13-5 in conference, our projected RPI is 85. See RPI forecast.

Which RPI forecast you use??

RPI.com? I only trust ESPN RPI

(01-11-2014 12:05 PM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  Which RPI forecast you use??

RPI.com? I only trust ESPN RPI

Rpiforecast.com. Predicts the season based on Sagarin and figures what the RPI would be.

Houston's current RPI is something like 180 something.

(01-11-2014 11:57 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:09 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 10:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 09:31 AM)panama Wrote:  But it is ridiculous to be jumping on UH about MBB attendance when no G5 in the South has great attendance except Memphis.

It's relatively difficult for power conference schools located in major league cities with NBA teams. Last year:

St. John's 7330
UCLA 9549
USC 4242
Northwestern 6389 15 miles from Chicago
DePaul 7681
Temple 5917
Oklahoma 9890 20 miles from Okla City
Villanova 8022
Arizona St 6143 10 miles to Phoenix
Charlotte 6093
Boston College 4244
Georgia Tech 7365
Miami 5814
Washington 7937
Cal 8297 5 miles to Oakland

Schools like Memphis, Marquette and Minnesota who draw 12-16K per game in NBA cities are very rare.

Until this year, Houston was playing minor league college basketball in a major league NBA city. And we were playing it badly. Give us some time. But know our ceiling is going to be about 6000 a game give or take.

And Georgia Tech drew 7300 in a beautiful new $45M arena in the ACC. Very very hard in the South.

I just noticed that there are only four southern city schools in the Top 100 in attendance and only Memphis is in the Top 50.

That shouldn't surprise anyone...as the Big Ten has lead the nation in basketball attendance for 37 (or is it 38?) straight years.

Some outliers like Syracuse, Kentucky in Louisville will always be out there (UL is now in the same conf as Cuse so that will help the ACC's overall numbers) but the Big Ten overall is KING and has always been KING in hoop attendance...as their fans come out win, place or show (or sun, rain, snow).

Still not an excuse to have 200 fans in the arena on game day.

the bottom line is if the team wins an thinks of creative ways to get fans in the stands it will work.

the items for success are in place, good coach and arena

(01-11-2014 12:40 PM)Texas2Step Wrote:  Still not an excuse to have 200 fans in the arena on game day.

Depends....if that's the norm...then excuses aren't needed (i.e. crowd reflects their true support, it is what it is).

All I can tell you is that I never here anyone talking college basketball on the train or in a store. You can build a nice arena and put a winning product on the court but for a southern city school 6k to 7k is going to be your ceiling. If not marketed properly it's going to be half that.

(01-11-2014 12:32 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:57 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 11:09 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 10:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 09:31 AM)panama Wrote:  But it is ridiculous to be jumping on UH about MBB attendance when no G5 in the South has great attendance except Memphis.

It's relatively difficult for power conference schools located in major league cities with NBA teams. Last year:

St. John's 7330
UCLA 9549
USC 4242
Northwestern 6389 15 miles from Chicago
DePaul 7681
Temple 5917
Oklahoma 9890 20 miles from Okla City
Villanova 8022
Arizona St 6143 10 miles to Phoenix
Charlotte 6093
Boston College 4244
Georgia Tech 7365
Miami 5814
Washington 7937
Cal 8297 5 miles to Oakland

Schools like Memphis, Marquette and Minnesota who draw 12-16K per game in NBA cities are very rare.

Until this year, Houston was playing minor league college basketball in a major league NBA city. And we were playing it badly. Give us some time. But know our ceiling is going to be about 6000 a game give or take.

And Georgia Tech drew 7300 in a beautiful new $45M arena in the ACC. Very very hard in the South.

I just noticed that there are only four southern city schools in the Top 100 in attendance and only Memphis is in the Top 50.

That shouldn't surprise anyone...as the Big Ten has lead the nation in basketball attendance for 37 (or is it 38?) straight years.

Some outliers like Syracuse, Kentucky in Louisville will always be out there (UL is now in the same conf as Cuse so that will help the ACC's overall numbers) but the Big Ten overall is KING and has always been KING in hoop attendance...as their fans come out win, place or show (or sun, rain, snow).

Except for Penn State.

I would have to agree with you on this and I am a fan!!!

FFS how many F'n times do we have to address "Houston Basketball Attendance?" ........

F YOU PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ME INSANE

"Nobody in Houston cares about Cougars Basketball? "

Why do you ask a dumb*** question if you already know the answer?

No sh*t? Nobody cares about Houston Basketball. Big f'n shocker. Nobody has cared for 20 something F'n years.

It doesn't take Rocket Science to figure out why. F'n balls.

I swear to god every F'n week I have to see a thread "WTF Houston?" And see this same old retreaded smuggy douchebaggery bullsh*t.