(01-22-2014 04:41 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote: To be honest, most of the WKU fans didn't bug me in the slightest. Nobody on here does.
I think the Cajuns are too quick to think that folks are out to get them/denigrate them/slight them, but I don't know their history, so that may be justified.
I think the Georgia Southern fans came on a bit strong at first, but they've toned down their blustering.
The UTA fan and Panama are using that dang coffee mug all the damn time, but other than that, those guys are alright.
Honestly, ULM fans seem sparse on this board (not a knock on the fanbase, only their presence on this board) so I can't hate on them too much.
Oh, but that Tulane guy really bugs me, and Cougar King is a troll... So I kinda get annoyed at those two "fanbases" (since they are the only ones really from their fanbases on here).
Ironically Savacool and CougarKing are not indicative of either fan base at ALL.
Cougar King most likely has 9 separate accounts on CSN...so I don't count him as anything more than troll.
(01-22-2014 04:41 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote: To be honest, most of the WKU fans didn't bug me in the slightest. Nobody on here does.
I think the Cajuns are too quick to think that folks are out to get them/denigrate them/slight them, but I don't know their history, so that may be justified.
I think the Georgia Southern fans came on a bit strong at first, but they've toned down their blustering.
The UTA fan and Panama are using that dang coffee mug all the damn time, but other than that, those guys are alright.
Honestly, ULM fans seem sparse on this board (not a knock on the fanbase, only their presence on this board) so I can't hate on them too much.
Oh, but that Tulane guy really bugs me, and Cougar King is a troll... So I kinda get annoyed at those two "fanbases" (since they are the only ones really from their fanbases on here).
Ironically Savacool and CougarKing are not indicative of either fan base at ALL.
Cougar King most likely has 9 separate accounts on CSN...so I don't count him as anything more than troll.
Just throwing a possible suggestion out there with Tennessee State.
However, do not believe them being a Historically Black University has or should
have anything to do with anything. Would be great to have a SBC member in downtown
Nashville. Do not even know if they have the money, desire or motivation to move to FBS.
Imagine they have some money since Wiki claims rumors have them opening satellite campuses in
Memphis, Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee, and Chattanooga, Tennessee hoping to reach more students across the state.
There is always Tennessee Tech in Cookeville, Tenn. @ an hour East of Nashville and @ an hour from Knoxville and Chatty.
Eastern Kentucky evidently just got $27 million in bonds to fix up their football stadium and maybe other things.
Believe Missouri State is working on their football stadium. EKU basketball doing well by the way I believe.
EKU may have bonds to fix their stadium, but what they really need to find are some fans. In 2012 EKU averaged less than 10,000 fans per game. One of the rules that the NCAA has for a team to move to FBS is to have an average of 15,000 in actual or paid attendance in a rolling two year period.
Two years ago, our AD screwed up by underbidding for a first round home game in the FCS playoffs. We averaged over 25,000 fans that year, but lost out to EKU to host a first round game because of the low bid and EKU's conference pitching in some money to help them have a good bid. We ended up traveling to EKU for that game. I found out that their stadium held about 22,000 fans, so I didn't think it was a big deal until I found out that they don't come close to filling it. Only 2,000 fans showed up for the game.
(01-22-2014 10:44 PM)bridgeforthduke Wrote: EKU may have bonds to fix their stadium, but what they really need to find are some fans. In 2012 EKU averaged less than 10,000 fans per game. One of the rules that the NCAA has for a team to move to FBS is to have an average of 15,000 in actual or paid attendance in a rolling two year period.
Two years ago, our AD screwed up by underbidding for a first round home game in the FCS playoffs. We averaged over 25,000 fans that year, but lost out to EKU to host a first round game because of the low bid and EKU's conference pitching in some money to help them have a good bid. We ended up traveling to EKU for that game. I found out that their stadium held about 22,000 fans, so I didn't think it was a big deal until I found out that they don't come close to filling it. Only 2,000 fans showed up for the game.
That is true. Didn't help EKU that 20 miles away Kentucky was hosting Tennessee in a late season SEC football game at the same time.
Nor did it look good on JMU athletic department for losing the playoff bid to EKU even though JMU averaged almost 26,000 for the season.
Fact you may not know, the OVC kicked in some money for EKU's bid to get that game. They evidently lost a ton of money.
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Regarding HBCU's... FAMU was all set to join the Sun Belt for football in 2004, but backed out at the last minute. Tennessee State plays in the non-HBCU OVC.
From the other direction, starting next year, non-HBCU Spring Hill College will join a HBCU conference in Division II.
(01-22-2014 11:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Regarding HBCU's... FAMU was all set to join the Sun Belt for football in 2004, but backed out at the last minute. Tennessee State plays in the non-HBCU OVC.
From the other direction, starting next year, non-HBCU Spring Hill College will join a HBCU conference in Division II.
Believe Alabama State would make a good SBC member, but evidently they have no interest. Would imagine another Alabama school would have a hard time getting approved into the SBC, number in state wise.
(01-22-2014 11:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Regarding HBCU's... FAMU was all set to join the Sun Belt for football in 2004, but backed out at the last minute. Tennessee State plays in the non-HBCU OVC.
From the other direction, starting next year, non-HBCU Spring Hill College will join a HBCU conference in Division II.
Believe Alabama State would make a good SBC member, but evidently they have no interest. Would imagine another Alabama school would have a hard time getting approved into the SBC, number in state wise.
And if one is going to get approved its Jacksonville State.
I can't see an HBCU giving up a built in system of de facto bowl games to suffer in the G5. I have heard Alabama State alumni mention the idea but I can't imagine they pull the trigger.
Question: Is having more than 2 members in a state a barrier for realignment?
I ask because in my mind it was a reason to disqualify Jacksonville State or even UAB. But the MAC has 6 Ohio schools and 3 Michigan schools. PAC12 has 4 California schools. I forget how many Texas schools are in CUSA and the B12. Does the size of the state matter?
(01-23-2014 07:25 AM)panama Wrote: Question: Is having more than 2 members in a state a barrier for realignment?
I ask because in my mind it was a reason to disqualify Jacksonville State or even UAB. But the MAC has 6 Ohio schools and 3 Michigan schools. PAC12 has 4 California schools. I forget how many Texas schools are in CUSA and the B12. Does the size of the state matter?
Multiple members from one state isn't an absolute barrier in realignment, but it is a major consideration. CUSA has four Texas schools which are nicely spread out in El Paso, Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston. CUSA also has two members from the state of Florida, which are both located in or around Miami, so go figure. Every other member in CUSA is the sole CUSA member from their state. CUSA currently has no presence in Arkansas or Georgia. I believe that this will be an advantage for ASU and GSU if CUSA ever adds anybody else.
(01-23-2014 07:25 AM)panama Wrote: Question: Is having more than 2 members in a state a barrier for realignment?
I ask because in my mind it was a reason to disqualify Jacksonville State or even UAB. But the MAC has 6 Ohio schools and 3 Michigan schools. PAC12 has 4 California schools. I forget how many Texas schools are in CUSA and the B12. Does the size of the state matter?
The size of the state absolutely matters, especially when comparing Alabama to Texas and California which are about 6 and 9 times larger than Alabama.
Plus, the PAC is geographically limited to what it can take, and the MAC is I think the most regional-centric of all the conferences (which works quite well for them stability-wise).
Regarding your scenario, I wouldn't think it would be a barrier for UAB because they are pre-existing, but it would be for JaxSt.
(01-23-2014 07:25 AM)panama Wrote: Question: Is having more than 2 members in a state a barrier for realignment?
I ask because in my mind it was a reason to disqualify Jacksonville State or even UAB. But the MAC has 6 Ohio schools and 3 Michigan schools. PAC12 has 4 California schools. I forget how many Texas schools are in CUSA and the B12. Does the size of the state matter?
The size of the state absolutely matters, especially when comparing Alabama to Texas and California which are about 6 and 9 times larger than Alabama.
Plus, the PAC is geographically limited to what it can take, and the MAC is I think the most regional-centric of all the conferences (which works quite well for them stability-wise).
Regarding your scenario, I wouldn't think it would be a barrier for UAB because they are pre-existing, but it would be for JaxSt.
I don't know if many of you heard this, but Delaware's AD and president were quoted this week that they are looking hard at conference realignment and how this affects UD sports. This could be the best news for getting our number one choice to date. UD would be a no-brainer add for the MAC that would likely also keep UMASS in the MAC. With CUSA not expanding, James Madison will be ready to take a SBC invite. Big, big news out of UD that really could clear up the picture and give the SBC a good school, program, and an additional state to boot.
The fear of the stipend and new play off money along with other factors makes FBS a easier choice . CUSA could take JMU & MSU and the MAC add Delaware . The candidates get slimmer if that would happen . The SBC would still benefit by being stable and growing .
The maximum money a conference can take per team is 12. After that, more members equals a small slice of the same pie. Financially, it doesn't make sense to go over 12.
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(01-25-2014 08:25 PM)MJG Wrote: The fear of the stipend and new play off money along with other factors makes FBS a easier choice . CUSA could take JMU & MSU and the MAC add Delaware . The candidates get slimmer if that would happen . The SBC would still benefit by being stable and growing .
CUSA & MAC could also sit still, which is a far more likely scenario than the one you propose.
