Potential additions:
JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 50,981 (city), 126,562 (metro)
MSU, Jefferson City, MO 43,183 (city), 149,807 (metro)
EKU, Richmond, KY 32,112 (city), ~100,000 (micropolitan area)

(01-03-2014 02:54 PM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  Potential additions:
JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 50,981 (city), 126,562 (metro)
MSU, Jefferson City, MO 43,183 (city), 149,807 (metro)
EKU, Richmond, KY 32,112 (city), ~100,000 (micropolitan area)

Missouri St is in Springfield MO not Jefferson City.

(01-03-2014 02:54 PM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  Potential additions:
JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 50,981 (city), 126,562 (metro)
MSU, Jefferson City, MO 43,183 (city), 149,807 (metro)
EKU, Richmond, KY 32,112 (city), ~100,000 (micropolitan area)

Missouri State is the winner. Plus it will be the 2nd FBS school in the state. New rivals

Missouri vs Missouri State
Kansas vs Missouri State
Kansas State vs. Missouri State
Iowa vs Missouri State
Arkansas vs Missouri State
Arkansas State vs Missouri State
Norhthern Illinois vs Missouri State

"Show Me" the Money!

(01-03-2014 03:36 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 02:54 PM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  Potential additions:
JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 50,981 (city), 126,562 (metro)
MSU, Jefferson City, MO 43,183 (city), 149,807 (metro)
EKU, Richmond, KY 32,112 (city), ~100,000 (micropolitan area)

Missouri St is in Springfield MO not Jefferson City.

(01-03-2014 03:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 02:54 PM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  Potential additions:
JMU, Harrisonburg, VA 50,981 (city), 126,562 (metro)
MSU, Jefferson City, MO 43,183 (city), 149,807 (metro)
EKU, Richmond, KY 32,112 (city), ~100,000 (micropolitan area)

Missouri State is the winner. Plus it will be the 2nd FBS school in the state. New rivals

Missouri vs Missouri State
Kansas vs Missouri State
Kansas State vs. Missouri State
Iowa vs Missouri State
Arkansas vs Missouri State
Arkansas State vs Missouri State
Norhthern Illinois vs Missouri State

"Show Me" the Money!

Metro area 436k and as FJ says only second FBS school in a state with 6M people.

(01-02-2014 11:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We arnt last anymore!!!! Lol

I'm perfectly okay with this.

I knew Moscow was small but had no idea the MSA was THAT small. It's a shame UofI is so far from Boise (and the drive so difficult). The university has suffered as a result.

http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/uploa..._all08.pdf

918,301 is the population within 50 miles of Mobile. Amtrak numbers.

Several cities listed if anyone cares?

(01-03-2014 02:13 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 01:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  As Arkstfan has illustrated, these numbers don't mean a whole lot. It isn't as easy as saying the program in the largest city will succeed more than the smaller cities on the field or in the ratings. Too many factors. ASU draws well on TV because we are one of only two FBS programs in our state and there are no professional teams to compete. It isn't a one formula world in college athletics.

Wow now I really feel at a disadvantage competing in a state with 12 FBS programs...

And don't forget those 2 awesome professional teams...lol.

(01-04-2014 08:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/uploa..._all08.pdf

918,301 is the population within 50 miles of Mobile. Amtrak numbers.

Several cities listed if anyone cares?

Thanks

(01-04-2014 09:47 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 02:13 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 01:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  As Arkstfan has illustrated, these numbers don't mean a whole lot. It isn't as easy as saying the program in the largest city will succeed more than the smaller cities on the field or in the ratings. Too many factors. ASU draws well on TV because we are one of only two FBS programs in our state and there are no professional teams to compete. It isn't a one formula world in college athletics.

Wow now I really feel at a disadvantage competing in a state with 12 FBS programs...

And don't forget those 2 awesome professional teams...lol.

Yeah but they play on sunday so I don't consider them competition.

(01-04-2014 12:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:47 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 02:13 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 01:54 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  As Arkstfan has illustrated, these numbers don't mean a whole lot. It isn't as easy as saying the program in the largest city will succeed more than the smaller cities on the field or in the ratings. Too many factors. ASU draws well on TV because we are one of only two FBS programs in our state and there are no professional teams to compete. It isn't a one formula world in college athletics.

Wow now I really feel at a disadvantage competing in a state with 12 FBS programs...

And don't forget those 2 awesome professional teams...lol.

Yeah but they play on sunday so I don't consider them competition.

Neither does the NFL..

(01-03-2014 07:55 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 12:53 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Do Georgia State and ULM know we kicked them out of the league?

Now now, let's not rush to judgment here. Lolly Polly's hometown of Ruston has a population of 21,859 AND a water tower and they're dripping with prestige. Don't believe me, just ask a Polly fan.

Prestigious enough to be chosen by CUSA over ULL. That may not be saying much though, since UNT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU all had what it took to leave ULL behind too.

http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/uploa..._all08.pdf

918,301 is the population within 50 miles of Mobile. Amtrak numbers.

Several cities listed if anyone cares?

(01-03-2014 12:43 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 11:55 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 10:01 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 11:36 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Lafayette Louisiana. 122,761 (MSA) 273,738
Jonesboro Arkansas. 70,187 (MSA) 107,768
Bowling Green Kentucky 60,600 (MSA) 162,231
Mobile Alabama. 194,822 (MSA) 412,992
Arkansas Little Rock 196,537
Troy Alabama 18,264 (MSA) 29,620
Boone North Carolina. 17,774 (MSA) 51,337
Statesboro Georgia. 29,779
San Marcos Texas. 50,001
las Cruces New Mexico. 101,047
Moscow Idaho. 24,499
Arlington Texas. 375,600

MSA =Metropolitan Statistical Area

Lynchburg, VA 77,100 (MSA) 247,000


+18% change in 10 years

Maybe you can't do math, but it's the 5th biggest city on the OP.

Growth 3x the rate of ATL. Yeah, that it kinda funny.

Well funny is you thinking 1) we care 2) any FBS conference will take you or 3) an 18% from 77k or 247k in 10 years is impressive. I live in a county with 750k residents and its not even the Atlanta Metro's most populous county. As a Metro Area we have on average added 100k residents a year since 1980. I have lost track as to how many recessions that includes where that pace never has slowed. To give you an idea, Dekalb had a 22% increase in population from 1990 to 2000 or 120k people. Gwinnett County had an increase from 2000 to 2010 37% or 217k people. Henry County had an increase of 71% from 2000 to 2010 or about 85k people. Fulton County added 57k residents from April 2010 to July 2012. So if you were interrupting an SBC thread in the hopes of impressing us...

All that growth in Atlanta is good? Considering half of that is Yankees transferring with their company and the people have the pleasure of driving on 8-lane "streets" to go to the grocery store, I'd say it's passed time to resurrect Sherman and strike a match.

Atlanta is probably the most generic example of Urban Sprawl and concrete ugliness in the nation

(01-05-2014 08:42 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 12:43 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 11:55 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 10:01 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Lynchburg, VA 77,100 (MSA) 247,000


+18% change in 10 years

Maybe you can't do math, but it's the 5th biggest city on the OP.

Growth 3x the rate of ATL. Yeah, that it kinda funny.

Well funny is you thinking 1) we care 2) any FBS conference will take you or 3) an 18% from 77k or 247k in 10 years is impressive. I live in a county with 750k residents and its not even the Atlanta Metro's most populous county. As a Metro Area we have on average added 100k residents a year since 1980. I have lost track as to how many recessions that includes where that pace never has slowed. To give you an idea, Dekalb had a 22% increase in population from 1990 to 2000 or 120k people. Gwinnett County had an increase from 2000 to 2010 37% or 217k people. Henry County had an increase of 71% from 2000 to 2010 or about 85k people. Fulton County added 57k residents from April 2010 to July 2012. So if you were interrupting an SBC thread in the hopes of impressing us...

All that growth in Atlanta is good? Considering half of that is Yankees transferring with their company and the people have the pleasure of driving on 8-lane "streets" to go to the grocery store, I'd say it's passed time to resurrect Sherman and strike a match.

Atlanta is probably the most generic example of Urban Sprawl and concrete ugliness in the nation

Lol. You have to have grown up somewhere pretty backwards to say that an issue with Atlanta is it's full of "yankees." Regarding the 8-lane street, i assume you're talking about the interstate. However, for some of us, the ability to walk around and take trains around the city is better than having to drive a car no matter where you want to go, which is what Statesboro offers.

(01-03-2014 09:40 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:27 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:24 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:05 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 08:14 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  As of 2013, the Statesboro-Bulloch County Micropolitan Statistical Area joined Savannah and Hinesville to form the Savannah-Hinesville-Statesboro, GA Combined Statistical Area with a 2012 population of 516,154 (ranking 86th in the United States)

If that's the case I guess we can claim Montgomery (374,556)

Mobile MSA is 602,877 plus Pensacola (461,227) is 45 miles to the east. Gulfport-Biloxi - Pascaquola MSA (379,582) is 45 miles to the west. To the north is Washington County (17,000). If you count the adjacent counties in Mississippi then that is about 1.5 million people living within a 60 mile radius of dowtown Mobile.

It seems to me that the Sun Belt has more potential fan support than some would have us believe.

Indeed. A given school in a metropolitan area might have 1,000,000 potential viewers but often also has 5 other programs in the area competing for those same viewers.

I remember reading somewhere that Statesboro, Savannah and Hinesville was the fastest growing region (percentage wise) in the South second to the Auburn, Opeklia, and Columbus region. The two areas have certainly grown rapidly over the last couple years.

(01-05-2014 03:26 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 08:42 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 12:43 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 11:55 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

Maybe you can't do math, but it's the 5th biggest city on the OP.

Growth 3x the rate of ATL. Yeah, that it kinda funny.

Well funny is you thinking 1) we care 2) any FBS conference will take you or 3) an 18% from 77k or 247k in 10 years is impressive. I live in a county with 750k residents and its not even the Atlanta Metro's most populous county. As a Metro Area we have on average added 100k residents a year since 1980. I have lost track as to how many recessions that includes where that pace never has slowed. To give you an idea, Dekalb had a 22% increase in population from 1990 to 2000 or 120k people. Gwinnett County had an increase from 2000 to 2010 37% or 217k people. Henry County had an increase of 71% from 2000 to 2010 or about 85k people. Fulton County added 57k residents from April 2010 to July 2012. So if you were interrupting an SBC thread in the hopes of impressing us...

All that growth in Atlanta is good? Considering half of that is Yankees transferring with their company and the people have the pleasure of driving on 8-lane "streets" to go to the grocery store, I'd say it's passed time to resurrect Sherman and strike a match.

Atlanta is probably the most generic example of Urban Sprawl and concrete ugliness in the nation

Lol. You have to have grown up somewhere pretty backwards to say that an issue with Atlanta is it's full of "yankees." Regarding the 8-lane street, i assume you're talking about the interstate. However, for some of us, the ability to walk around and take trains around the city is better than having to drive a car no matter where you want to go, which is what Statesboro offers.

Yeah and another 100k people moved here last year. What a hellhole.

(01-03-2014 09:44 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:40 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:27 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:24 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:05 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If that's the case I guess we can claim Montgomery (374,556)

Mobile MSA is 602,877 plus Pensacola (461,227) is 45 miles to the east. Gulfport-Biloxi - Pascaquola MSA (379,582) is 45 miles to the west. To the north is Washington County (17,000). If you count the adjacent counties in Mississippi then that is about 1.5 million people living within a 60 mile radius of dowtown Mobile.

It seems to me that the Sun Belt has more potential fan support than some would have us believe.

Indeed. A given school in a metropolitan area might have 1,000,000 potential viewers but often also has 5 other programs in the area competing for those same viewers.

That is why South Alabama home games should not be schedule at same time of Alabama and Auburn games.

I disagree with you strongly regarding scheduling of USA home games. USA football games should be at NIGHT during September and October due to heat issues. In November, we can play around with the schedule to optimize the schedule.

USA has a core attendance of 15k. The swing is more related to weather than UA or Auburn.

(01-04-2014 08:12 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 07:55 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 12:53 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Do Georgia State and ULM know we kicked them out of the league?

Now now, let's not rush to judgment here. Lolly Polly's hometown of Ruston has a population of 21,859 AND a water tower and they're dripping with prestige. Don't believe me, just ask a Polly fan.

Prestigious enough to be chosen by CUSA over ULL. That may not be saying much though, since UNT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU all had what it took to leave ULL behind too.

You are welcome to that opinion. Have fun playing F_U, UNT, UNCC, UTSA, and ODU (plus UAB) in your obviously superior conference.

(01-04-2014 08:12 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 07:55 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 12:53 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Do Georgia State and ULM know we kicked them out of the league?

Now now, let's not rush to judgment here. Lolly Polly's hometown of Ruston has a population of 21,859 AND a water tower and they're dripping with prestige. Don't believe me, just ask a Polly fan.

Prestigious enough to be chosen by CUSA over ULL. That may not be saying much though, since UNT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU all had what it took to leave ULL behind too.

You can talk about being left behind all you want, but when la Tech enters The Swamp next year and leaves with a 30 points ass whipping we will revisit this supposed separation.