He's a small ball four on a team run and gun team. Think Kenneth Faried (6'8", 230 lbs). in fact, DEN might be his best option.

(01-02-2014 02:27 PM)eroc Wrote:  He's a small ball four on a team run and gun team. Think Kenneth Faried (6'8", 230 lbs). in fact, DEN might be his best option.

Faried is an elite rebounder...I don't think Jackson is anywhere close to his level of play.

(01-02-2014 02:38 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 02:27 PM)eroc Wrote:  He's a small ball four on a team run and gun team. Think Kenneth Faried (6'8", 230 lbs). in fact, DEN might be his best option.

Faried is an elite rebounder...I don't think Jackson is anywhere close to his level of play.

When i see Kenneth Faried play, what i see is a high energy, defender/rebounder. Almost all of his offense comes from putbacks, dunks, or from the FT line and virtually none of it from any back to the basket or face up game. BTW, he's averaging 10/8. if JJ has any future in the L, it's going the same route as Kenneth Faried. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the accuracy of my comparison but i certainly don't think it's a bridge too far for JJ.

(01-02-2014 01:22 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Lance was not a better College player than SK is now.

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Had he played 4 years he would have been. His ceiling was way higher than SK, which is why he was able to leave after one less than spectacular year.

(01-02-2014 01:22 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Lance was not a better College player than SK is now.

Compare them now. Kilpatrick spent half a decade in the program whereas Stephenson was around for a year.

Stephenson is a much better pure athlete, he's got better basketball skills and a ton more potential.

(01-02-2014 03:09 PM)subflea Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 01:22 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Lance was not a better College player than SK is now.

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Had he played 4 years he would have been. His ceiling was way higher than SK, which is why he was able to leave after one less than spectacular year.

Agreed. In Sks freshmen year he came of the bench and contributed with his shooting. Lance had alot more responsibility but was only alright. Had he stayed until his senior year, hed undoubtably be an All American

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(01-02-2014 02:59 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 02:38 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 02:27 PM)eroc Wrote:  He's a small ball four on a team run and gun team. Think Kenneth Faried (6'8", 230 lbs). in fact, DEN might be his best option.

Faried is an elite rebounder...I don't think Jackson is anywhere close to his level of play.

When i see Kenneth Faried play, what i see is a high energy, defender/rebounder. Almost all of his offense comes from putbacks, dunks, or from the FT line and virtually none of it from any back to the basket or face up game. BTW, he's averaging 10/8. if JJ has any future in the L, it's going the same route as Kenneth Faried. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the accuracy of my comparison but i certainly don't think it's a bridge too far for JJ.

I definitely get what you're saying. He'll get a shot as anyone who averages close to a double double with ~3bpg should, I just think his style of play doesn't fit nearly as well in today's NBA. Faried is a load, which helps him get position and be effective on the glass, Jackson just seems smallish to me. He needs to develop a semi-consistent jump shot if he wants to stick in the NBA, as his current game probably makes him a fringe bench man. I think he'd be better served to go overseas for a few years to develop as a 4 before going into the league. It's a shame that he wasn't put into this role sooner.

If Justin can keep his current level of play for the balance of the season he will get some serious looks. I don't think he has the resume to get drafted in this particular class, its way too deep. But he will almost certainly get a look on someone's summer league team or a tryout. But he has to play like he has the rest of the year.

(01-02-2014 11:59 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  SK has a shot with the right team. he can handle the ball well enough, I mean is Lance that much better than SK?

absolutely

(01-02-2014 05:32 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 11:59 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  SK has a shot with the right team. he can handle the ball well enough, I mean is Lance that much better than SK?

absolutely

Yes, Lance is indescribably better than SK.

IF JJ was able to get into the NBA he would be a bench life bench player at best. But hey...it's still the NBA.

Did Jarvis Varnado from Mississippi State make it? I know he at least got drafted. That is who Justin always reminded me of.

(01-02-2014 09:40 PM)cincy11 Wrote:  Did Jarvis Varnado from Mississippi State make it? I know he at least got drafted. That is who Justin always reminded me of.

He got drafted then stocked overseas for two years. He's been jumping around the D-League ever since. Varnado was a much better shot blocker than even Jackson is...I can't believe that's possible. He averaged 4.7 blocks per game in each of the last two years of his college career and was two time SEC Defensive Player of the Year. He along with David Robinson are the only two (2!) players in NCAA history to accomplish a 1000/1000/500 career (Points/Rebounds/Blocks)

Varnado is a good comp, but I still think JJ has more passion and energy. I think that counts a little, I can see JJ getting a small amount of minutes bringing energy to the right team. It really depends on the team.

If you don't know who Kevin Pelton is, he writes for ESPN.com and has worked for teams before using advanced statistics. He mostly follows the NBA but he also has a model that projects how players will handle the transition from college to the NBA. He says that one of, if not the most important factors in evaluating how a player will handle the transition is steal rate. Its a very good indicator of athleticism, which is obviously extremely important in the NBA.

Even before this year, Jackson has had a good steal rate, but this year he has one that rates 57th in the country, which is extremely good for a big man.

I still think his lack of size will mean he won't get looks because he doesn't fit the direction the NBA is heading when it comes to 4's. But maybe he will get a summer invite.

I don't think he'll get drafted, but if he gets invited to the right team and allowed to do what he does which is fly around, he could stick. He has NBA athletic ability with his speed, quickness and leaping ability.

(01-02-2014 04:13 AM)icehole3 Wrote:  Just asking don't get upset.

Sure he will for the D-League lol

I dont know much, but I think some other folks here are beginning to see what I'm seeing.

Media is starting too as well.

Jackson had a GREAT game

what, 15pts, 7 blocks, 8 boards?

wow