Do we have any idea how many tickets we sold and how many actually came? I think we had a pretty good crowd although we were spread out a bit. I don't know where to look for the numbers.

Don't know for sure but an alum I talked with after the game was very pleased with our turnout at the game and the events were all sold out.
All in all, I was pleased with our attendance especially when you consider having the travel time.

(01-02-2014 12:36 PM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  Do we have any idea how many tickets we sold and how many actually came? I think we had a pretty good crowd although we were spread out a bit. I don't know where to look for the numbers.

It was pretty upsetting that Owl Club members/season ticket holders got placed up in the nosebleeds with hundreds of Mississippi State fans between us and the field. The way our seating was set up was not conducive to having any sort of significant support

(01-02-2014 01:25 PM)07owl Wrote:  It was pretty upsetting that Owl Club members/season ticket holders got placed up in the nosebleeds with hundreds of Mississippi State fans between us and the field. The way our seating was set up was not conducive to having any sort of significant support

At a minimum, I think there should be some clarification made by the RAD as to why we were seated where we were. My understanding is that our initially allotment was placed in the nosebleeds, and then the better seats below were released to the ticket brokers. But that is hearsay.

(01-02-2014 12:10 PM)OklahomaOwl Wrote:  Perhaps I am taking this post from you incorrectly so forgive me if I am off base.
I did notice some young person in front of the Rice fans urging them to stand up, yell, support the team etc.....
I did not appreciate the admonitions at the time nor do I appreciate the post that essentially accuses the Rice fans of being too subdued at the game and not giving the kids their due support.
First, we spent a lot of money going to the bowl game so from a financial standpoint we support the kids for sure.
Second, as a founding member of the Give A Hoots, I and all of my fellow Give A Hooter's, have not missed a game home or away for the past 3 years, not to mention the time, effort, and personal expense of funding the Give A Hoots and ensuring the game time experience is a great memory for the players and fans alike.
So to read this type of negative comment about fan support based upon your brief experience leaves really rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, we lost the game, but instead of sitting at home like the vast majority of other FBS schools the Owls were competing in a major bowl game against a very worthy opponent.
In closing let me just ask - We will be in South Bend for the opener of season 2014 - Will we see you there?????

What does any of this have to do with the question of whether Rice fans should be less subdued?

Obviously fans who spend money, travel long distances and attend faithfully are quite welcome -- but equally obviously, fans who do those same things and are also vocal in their support would be even more welcome. Since that last characteristic does not conflict with the first three, encouragement of the latter need not be construed as lack of appreciation for the former.

(01-02-2014 01:47 PM)Vegas Owl Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 01:25 PM)07owl Wrote:  It was pretty upsetting that Owl Club members/season ticket holders got placed up in the nosebleeds with hundreds of Mississippi State fans between us and the field. The way our seating was set up was not conducive to having any sort of significant support

At a minimum, I think there should be some clarification made by the RAD as to why we were seated where we were. My understanding is that our initially allotment was placed in the nosebleeds, and then the better seats below were released to the ticket brokers. But that is hearsay.

My understanding from some people was that they wanted Rice pockets spread across so that when cameras scanned the stands you would see Rice fans no matter what camera was used. Personally, it would have been better if we had one huge section together than 10 small pockets spread apart.

I have had this experience at several games throughout the years. Most of our fans are pretty good, but we do have a few grumpy apples who cannot stand it when people yell for the team or stand up on a crucial third down. I think all teams have a few of these fans, but due to the small crowd size they tend to stick out more at Rice games.

I used to argue with these sour apples, now I just ignore them and move over to another seat (plenty of empty ones are usually available). If they are so miserable that they get upset when somebody cheers for the same team they are, their punishment is living their grumpy life.

Did anyone here get photos of the Rice side? The cameras only showed the MSU side. I bet we represented pretty well, but I'd still like to see some pictures of how we did.

I've been pretty vocal at the sporting events I've attended over the years, sometimes pushing things just a little bit. I generally keep my language G-rated though. The one time I got filthy was at the UTEP basketball game at Tudor a couple of years ago when a Miner player essentially punched Tamir Jackson in the face. I shouted some obscenities at the UTEP fans and the refs in Spanish, and they most definitely got the message.

If any Rice fan ever tells me to be quiet when the content of my cheering is in good taste, those will be fighting words. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting loud and supporting your players as long as you keep it clean and positive.

(01-02-2014 12:10 PM)OklahomaOwl Wrote:  Perhaps I am taking this post from you incorrectly so forgive me if I am off base.
I did notice some young person in front of the Rice fans urging them to stand up, yell, support the team etc.....
I did not appreciate the admonitions at the time nor do I appreciate the post that essentially accuses the Rice fans of being too subdued at the game and not giving the kids their due support.
First, we spent a lot of money going to the bowl game so from a financial standpoint we support the kids for sure.
Second, as a founding member of the Give A Hoots, I and all of my fellow Give A Hooter's, have not missed a game home or away for the past 3 years, not to mention the time, effort, and personal expense of funding the Give A Hoots and ensuring the game time experience is a great memory for the players and fans alike.
So to read this type of negative comment about fan support based upon your brief experience leaves really rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, we lost the game, but instead of sitting at home like the vast majority of other FBS schools the Owls were competing in a major bowl game against a very worthy opponent.
In closing let me just ask - We will be in South Bend for the opener of season 2014 - Will we see you there?????

Woh there. Trust me, you are barking up the wrong tree and trying to chastise the wrong person with regards to supporting Rice athletics with their time, effort, and income.

Being that you're with the Give a Hoots, you've seen this poster (along with myself and a few others) at EVERY home game the past 6-7 years, and for the past two years with a large, if not THE largest alumni organized tailgate at HRS, so to come at OP with the implication that they do not spend enough time supporting Rice athletics, is insulting.

And the comment regarding the quiet fans is not new. Most of us young alumni prefer to sit in the student section or the Roost because we have more often than not, been surrounding by people sitting on their hands on the Rice sideline at HRS, and we want to vocally support the team. And we have rustled some feathers when we have tried to sit on the normal, ticked side, with our vocallness (not our vocabulary). I've been attending a ton of Rice events since I matriculated in '07, and across the board, at every sport, we are a fairly subdued fan base, and it's one of my biggest peeves with the Rice fans.

(01-02-2014 04:32 PM)Wiessman Wrote:  I've been pretty vocal at the sporting events I've attended over the years, sometimes pushing things just a little bit. I generally keep my language G-rated though. The one time I got filthy was at the UTEP basketball game at Tudor a couple of years ago when a Miner player essentially punched Tamir Jackson in the face. I shouted some obscenities at the UTEP fans and the refs in Spanish, and they most definitely got the message.

If any Rice fan ever tells me to be quiet when the content of my cheering is in good taste, those will be fighting words. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting loud and supporting your players as long as you keep it clean and positive.

why was any Rice "fan" complaining about any loud pro Rice yelling?

did they prefer the cowbells?

this is why we need the return of the Rally Club.

and I am very tired when at the few a Rice games I can attend, there is no Rice section.

Reliant against Texas 2010

Liberty Bowl 2013

For this game especially , this was unacceptable.

(01-02-2014 07:24 PM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 05:40 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 12:10 PM)OklahomaOwl Wrote:  Perhaps I am taking this post from you incorrectly so forgive me if I am off base.
I did notice some young person in front of the Rice fans urging them to stand up, yell, support the team etc.....
I did not appreciate the admonitions at the time nor do I appreciate the post that essentially accuses the Rice fans of being too subdued at the game and not giving the kids their due support.
First, we spent a lot of money going to the bowl game so from a financial standpoint we support the kids for sure.
Second, as a founding member of the Give A Hoots, I and all of my fellow Give A Hooter's, have not missed a game home or away for the past 3 years, not to mention the time, effort, and personal expense of funding the Give A Hoots and ensuring the game time experience is a great memory for the players and fans alike.
So to read this type of negative comment about fan support based upon your brief experience leaves really rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, we lost the game, but instead of sitting at home like the vast majority of other FBS schools the Owls were competing in a major bowl game against a very worthy opponent.
In closing let me just ask - We will be in South Bend for the opener of season 2014 - Will we see you there?????

Woh there. Trust me, you are barking up the wrong tree and trying to chastise the wrong person with regards to supporting Rice athletics with their time, effort, and income.

Being that you're with the Give a Hoots, you've seen this poster (along with myself and a few others) at EVERY home game the past 6-7 years, and for the past two years with a large, if not THE largest alumni organized tailgate at HRS, so to come at OP with the implication that they do not spend enough time supporting Rice athletics, is insulting.

And the comment regarding the quiet fans is not new. Most of us young alumni prefer to sit in the student section or the Roost because we have more often than not, been surrounding by people sitting on their hands on the Rice sideline at HRS, and we want to vocally support the team. And we have rustled some feathers when we have tried to sit on the normal, ticked side, with our vocallness (not our vocabulary). I've been attending a ton of Rice events since I matriculated in '07, and across the board, at every sport, we are a fairly subdued fan base, and it's one of my biggest peeves with the Rice fans.

As I said before, I was shocked at how quiet the fans were when Phillip first started playing at Rice. I guess I got use to it. But over 5 years, I've been as vocal and animated as I was on day one in 2009. The boys love it when we cheer. I don't understand how some fans don't see this and stay quiet. I will never change

I was hoping to meet you in Memphis.... I met the family of the "other" 15 :)

There has been positive pro Rice cheering in our past...

LSU 1974 was memorable.

UT 1994

"Clown Night" against UT, Abe Lemons, at Autry

It is hard when athletic administration sabotages the effort by splitting up the Rice fans around the stadium...

UT at Reliant in 2010
Liberty Bowl last week.

We all need to complain to the Owl Club and the AD.

(01-02-2014 07:25 PM)Memphis Owl Wrote:  and I am very tired when at the few a Rice games I can attend, there is no Rice section.

Reliant against Texas 2010

Liberty Bowl 2013

For this game especially , this was unacceptable.

UNACCEPTABLE indeed. I am so sick of all of the years gone by, where we attended Rice sporting events and were completely alone in the stands. You all have heard me ***** about it before. It's just such a damn simple NO-BRAINER.

From the student section, we couldn't really tell where the ticketed Rice fans were even sitting. It was the same feeling as UT in 2010. We were in the corner of the endzone next to the Mob and yelled pretty loud on defense until the bitter end. The student section has been an absolute blast this year. Pretty loud the entire year, especially down in row 1! Sitting on the ticketed side at HRS is an entirely different animal. I think I'll probably stay in the student section when I come back next year.

I used to yell a lot at the football games, but with age, realized that the players can't hear me. I yell during important defensive situations like 3rd and long and also cheer positive plays, but that's about it. Baseball is another matter because that's a smaller, more intimate setting and an individual's contribution is much more impactful. I wasn't at the Liberty Bowl due to a previous scheduling conflict, so I can't take sides here... but I can envisions situations where gratuitous/non-impactful pro-Rice yelling would be excessive and annoying. My reaction would likely depend on how much alcohol I've consumed and the person yelling has consumed. Another fan admonishing other fans for not cheering enough would also be annoying (not sure if this happened).

But yes, I agree that if the content is in good taste, situation appropriate (i.e. don't be going berserk over a 1-yard fullback dive play), and non-vulgar, I would never say anything to the fan.

I was sitting with some of the Owl Club members and some younger alumni behind me was raising hell especially with the MSU fans and their cow bells. It was great!

(01-02-2014 12:10 PM)OklahomaOwl Wrote:  Perhaps I am taking this post from you incorrectly so forgive me if I am off base.
I did notice some young person in front of the Rice fans urging them to stand up, yell, support the team etc.....
I did not appreciate the admonitions at the time nor do I appreciate the post that essentially accuses the Rice fans of being too subdued at the game and not giving the kids their due support.
First, we spent a lot of money going to the bowl game so from a financial standpoint we support the kids for sure.
Second, as a founding member of the Give A Hoots, I and all of my fellow Give A Hooter's, have not missed a game home or away for the past 3 years, not to mention the time, effort, and personal expense of funding the Give A Hoots and ensuring the game time experience is a great memory for the players and fans alike.
So to read this type of negative comment about fan support based upon your brief experience leaves really rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, we lost the game, but instead of sitting at home like the vast majority of other FBS schools the Owls were competing in a major bowl game against a very worthy opponent.
In closing let me just ask - We will be in South Bend for the opener of season 2014 - Will we see you there?????

Woh there. Trust me, you are barking up the wrong tree and trying to chastise the wrong person with regards to supporting Rice athletics with their time, effort, and income.

Being that you're with the Give a Hoots, you've seen this poster (along with myself and a few others) at EVERY home game the past 6-7 years, and for the past two years with a large, if not THE largest alumni organized tailgate at HRS, so to come at OP with the implication that they do not spend enough time supporting Rice athletics, is insulting.

And the comment regarding the quiet fans is not new. Most of us young alumni prefer to sit in the student section or the Roost because we have more often than not, been surrounding by people sitting on their hands on the Rice sideline at HRS, and we want to vocally support the team. And we have rustled some feathers when we have tried to sit on the normal, ticked side, with our vocallness (not our vocabulary). I've been attending a ton of Rice events since I matriculated in '07, and across the board, at every sport, we are a fairly subdued fan base, and it's one of my biggest peeves with the Rice fans.
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(01-03-2014 01:00 AM)EOL_Owl Wrote:  From the student section, we couldn't really tell where the ticketed Rice fans were even sitting. It was the same feeling as UT in 2010. We were in the corner of the endzone next to the Mob and yelled pretty loud on defense until the bitter end. The student section has been an absolute blast this year. Pretty loud the entire year, especially down in row 1! Sitting on the ticketed side at HRS is an entirely different animal. I think I'll probably stay in the student section when I come back next year.

In my (limited) recent experience at HRS, the lower rows on the ticketed side can be pretty lively. In fact, we stood throughout the CUSA championship game.

(01-02-2014 07:25 PM)Memphis Owl Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 04:32 PM)Wiessman Wrote:  I've been pretty vocal at the sporting events I've attended over the years, sometimes pushing things just a little bit. I generally keep my language G-rated though. The one time I got filthy was at the UTEP basketball game at Tudor a couple of years ago when a Miner player essentially punched Tamir Jackson in the face. I shouted some obscenities at the UTEP fans and the refs in Spanish, and they most definitely got the message.

If any Rice fan ever tells me to be quiet when the content of my cheering is in good taste, those will be fighting words. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting loud and supporting your players as long as you keep it clean and positive.

why was any Rice "fan" complaining about any loud pro Rice yelling?

did they prefer the cowbells?

this is why we need the return of the Rally Club.

and I am very tired when at the few a Rice games I can attend, there is no Rice section.

Reliant against Texas 2010

Liberty Bowl 2013

For this game especially , this was unacceptable.

Agreed about the return of Rally Club

(01-03-2014 05:42 PM)OwlAg Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 07:25 PM)Memphis Owl Wrote:  

(01-02-2014 04:32 PM)Wiessman Wrote:  I've been pretty vocal at the sporting events I've attended over the years, sometimes pushing things just a little bit. I generally keep my language G-rated though. The one time I got filthy was at the UTEP basketball game at Tudor a couple of years ago when a Miner player essentially punched Tamir Jackson in the face. I shouted some obscenities at the UTEP fans and the refs in Spanish, and they most definitely got the message.

If any Rice fan ever tells me to be quiet when the content of my cheering is in good taste, those will be fighting words. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting loud and supporting your players as long as you keep it clean and positive.

why was any Rice "fan" complaining about any loud pro Rice yelling?

did they prefer the cowbells?

this is why we need the return of the Rally Club.

and I am very tired when at the few a Rice games I can attend, there is no Rice section.

Reliant against Texas 2010

Liberty Bowl 2013

For this game especially , this was unacceptable.

Agreed about the return of Rally Club

Hopefully it wouldn't be the drunken stupid one, stampeding through the student section to the front row even though others had been there first for quite a while, and making horrific comments to the opposing team. That was the one I saw my freshman year and I was glad when it disappeared.

I too was in the nosebleed seats at row 87 out of 90, and while I cheered from time to time (got us Rice fans to chant "defense" at one point), we were too high up to be have much effect.

As for the seat allocations, there was a whole 10 rows below us that were empty, so no doubt there were seats held back. This seat hold back occurred despite some of us being Owl Club members. When checking my seat location online a week before, I saw seats twice as close in the same section for less than face value. It makes one wonder how ticket allocations are decided at a neutral site like this, and whether one should buy out of Rice's allocation, when you feel you got screwed.

I would still buy from Rice, but it did piss me off.