Got a little news here, guys. One of our insiders was talking to his ACC sources about the UofL coaching search due to our interest in Chad Morris. He got a little divisonal nugget. Apparently, they're starting realignment under this premise.

FSU and VT in one division
Louisville and Clemson in the other

I know it's not much but it's the first bit of info from a "source" that I've seen on this topic.

(01-08-2014 03:36 PM)krux Wrote:  Got a little news here, guys. One of our insiders was talking to his ACC sources about the UofL coaching search due to our interest in Chad Morris. He got a little divisonal nugget. Apparently, they're starting realignment under this premise.

FSU and VT in one division
Louisville and Clemson in the other

I know it's not much but it's the first bit of info from a "source" that I've seen on this topic.

Piss on that.

There is absolutely no combination of teams that could be put together that would make that division attractive. I'll drop my IPTAY donation and 6 season tickets for that garbage, and I will not be alone.

Well this was from a Clemson source and the insider presented it as what Clemson and FSU want. IDK...don't shoot the messenger! lol

What I got from that basic outline

FSU................Miami
VT..................Virginia
Pitt.................Louisville
Syracuse.........BC
Georgia Tech... Clemson
NCSU..............North Carolina
Wake..............Duke

And I tell ya, it makes a ton more sense to flip Miami & FSU

(01-08-2014 03:36 PM)krux Wrote:  Got a little news here, guys. One of our insiders was talking to his ACC sources about the UofL coaching search due to our interest in Chad Morris. He got a little divisonal nugget. Apparently, they're starting realignment under this premise.

FSU and VT in one division
Louisville and Clemson in the other

I know it's not much but it's the first bit of info from a "source" that I've seen on this topic.

Note to CP --
I'll bet a few $$$ that realignment will still preserve NC State/Clemson (Textile Bowl), unless I'm totally giving way too much credence to tradition.

With that in mind:

Duke ---- Wake Forest
Georgia Tech ---- Clemson
Florida State ---- Miami
North Carolina ---- NC State
Pitt ---- Syracuse
Virginia ---- Boston College
Virginia Tech ---- Louisville

--

Creates realistic ACCCG matchups like:
FSU/Miami
FSU/Clemson
VaTech/Clemson
FSU/Louisville

As long as Clemson is strong, Clemson will play in the ACCCG 7 years out of 10, otherwise, Louisville and/or Miami should reach it.

Clemson notwithstanding, this creates one of the best "made for TV" matchups during the regular season -- FSU vs. North Carolina -- especially when the Tar Heels aren't shooting themselves in the foot (probation, coaching hires).

Perserves UNC/UVa, UNC/NCST, UVA/VaTech, UNC/Duke and keeps all UNC & Duke paired with GT, while now appeasing those who crave FSU/GT annually.

Ensures Duke will not play in another ACCT unless FSU falls completely off the map

And that alignment would suck for Pitt. Only thing left is VT and Syracuse. Pitt v Miami is a likely Thanksgiving Weekend game lost. The loss of rivalries is the #1 reason why conference realignment completely blows... We just lost ND as a rival due to realignment and ACC scheduling. Losing Miami due to divisional realignment would be another blow. GT is a potential game that could be fun.

(01-08-2014 05:09 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  And that alignment would suck for Pitt. Only thing left is VT and Syracuse. Pitt v Miami is a likely Thanksgiving Weekend game lost. The loss of rivalries is the #1 reason why conference realignment completely blows... We just lost ND as a rival due to realignment and ACC scheduling. Losing Miami due to divisional realignment would be another blow. GT is a potential game that could be fun.

I understand your point.

That said, I see Pitt's rivals as:

VT (proximity equivalent to FSU/GT)
North Carolina (re-kindles a legacy rivalry)
FSU -- Pitt, in a strong season, has the chance to unseat the "top dog"
Syracuse

I don't see how Pitt-FSU is a rivalry though. And Pitt-UNC isn't a rivalry and likely will never be a rivalry. In basketball it's possible. While Miami has whooped our asses most of the time, at least there is some history there. The history between Pitt-FSU was 25+ years ago, minus this past season.

Our conference rivals:

VT
Syracuse
Miami
BC
Louisville
With a potential rivalry with GT

(01-08-2014 05:03 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Note to CP --
I'll bet a few $$$ that realignment will still preserve NC State/Clemson (Textile Bowl), unless I'm totally giving way too much credence to tradition.

While there would be some lip service paid to NC State out of respect an annual game in football with them isn't something we would really raise a stink about. It's not a rivalry, and is far more important to them than it is to us compared to other conference schools.

Quote:With that in mind:

Duke ---- Wake Forest
Georgia Tech ---- Clemson
Florida State ---- Miami
North Carolina ---- NC State
Pitt ---- Syracuse
Virginia ---- Boston College
Virginia Tech ---- Louisville

--

Creates realistic ACCCG matchups like:
FSU/Miami
FSU/Clemson
VaTech/Clemson
FSU/Louisville

As long as Clemson is strong, Clemson will play in the ACCCG 7 years out of 10, otherwise, Louisville and/or Miami should reach it.

I swear ACC fans are among the stupidest I have ever seen in my life. Didn't the last time we split in divisions and the result teach you people anything? The absolute worst reason for a divisional switch is for competitive balance right now. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to split Clemson and FSU.

Quote:Clemson notwithstanding, this creates one of the best "made for TV" matchups during the regular season -- FSU vs. North Carolina -- especially when the Tar Heels aren't shooting themselves in the foot (probation, coaching hires).

There are a number of "made for TV matchups" that would outclass FSU/UNC, with Clemson/FSU already at the head of the list.

FSU/Miami
FSU/VT
Clemson/Miami
Clemson/VT
FSU/GT
VT/Louisville
Miami/Louisville

And you UNC people kill me. Y'all act like UNC football being average is the anomaly. News flash....it's not. UNC football being even remotely relevant is the anomaly. It happens once or twice every 15-20 years or so and is surrounded by a whole lot of average to below average. So tell me again how an annual FSU game against a middle of the road program is a "must see matchup".

Quote:Perserves UNC/UVa, UNC/NCST, UVA/VaTech, UNC/Duke and keeps all UNC & Duke paired with GT, while now appeasing those who crave FSU/GT annually.

Ensures Duke will not play in another ACCT unless FSU falls completely off the map

And removes one of the few ACC matchups that has been on prime time national TV more often than not.


And people wonder why I hate the ACC so much? Every time we start to get a little credibility we do something to sabotage it every single time.

I think any realignment considerations should start and end at preserving FSU/Miami and FSU/Clemson. Any scenario that prevents those regular season games is a non-starter in my mind.

FSU and Clemson in one division
Miami, Virginia Tech, and Louisville in the other

I think Miami and Louisville need to play every year. Budding rivalry that can grow into a major annual game.

Divisions

Good Division................Crap Division
Florida State.................Virginia
Clemson........................NC State
Miami............................Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech................North Carolina
Louisville.......................Duke
Syracuse......................Pittsburgh
Boston College.............Wake Forest

* I am not insinuating that any of the 3 northernmost schools are either good or crap (but everybody else...).

(01-08-2014 06:19 PM)marleycard Wrote:  I think any realignment considerations should start and end at preserving FSU/Miami and FSU/Clemson. Any scenario that prevents those regular season games is a non-starter in my mind.

FSU and Clemson in one division
Miami, Virginia Tech, and Louisville in the other

I think Miami and Louisville need to play every year. Budding rivalry that can grow into a major annual game.

How is Miami vs UL a budding rivalry? I'm not calling BS on this, just curious as to why you think this is the case.

(01-08-2014 03:36 PM)krux Wrote:  Got a little news here, guys. One of our insiders was talking to his ACC sources about the UofL coaching search due to our interest in Chad Morris. He got a little divisonal nugget. Apparently, they're starting realignment under this premise.

FSU and VT in one division
Louisville and Clemson in the other

I know it's not much but it's the first bit of info from a "source" that I've seen on this topic.

No thanks on that. Swapping Clemson for Virgina Tech every year would be beyond awful.

(01-08-2014 07:04 PM)C Marlow Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 06:19 PM)marleycard Wrote:  I think any realignment considerations should start and end at preserving FSU/Miami and FSU/Clemson. Any scenario that prevents those regular season games is a non-starter in my mind.

FSU and Clemson in one division
Miami, Virginia Tech, and Louisville in the other

I think Miami and Louisville need to play every year. Budding rivalry that can grow into a major annual game.

How is Miami vs UL a budding rivalry? I'm not calling BS on this, just curious as to why you think this is the case.

Because we are The New U and they resent us for it.

(01-08-2014 08:29 PM)ACCslater Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 07:04 PM)C Marlow Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 06:19 PM)marleycard Wrote:  I think any realignment considerations should start and end at preserving FSU/Miami and FSU/Clemson. Any scenario that prevents those regular season games is a non-starter in my mind.

FSU and Clemson in one division
Miami, Virginia Tech, and Louisville in the other

I think Miami and Louisville need to play every year. Budding rivalry that can grow into a major annual game.

How is Miami vs UL a budding rivalry? I'm not calling BS on this, just curious as to why you think this is the case.

Because we are The New U and they resent us for it.

Stop. We are not the new U. Couple few titles short...

How much of this conference realignment talk is driven by an attempt to get more tv money. If it were a major factor it looks like the conference would be the ones pushing for it more than individual schools.

(01-08-2014 08:58 PM)Cody6003 Wrote:  How much of this conference realignment talk is driven by an attempt to get more tv money. If it were a major factor it looks like the conference would be the ones pushing for it more than individual schools.

This started because Syracuse's AD shot his mouth off in a non-confidential manner and FSU looks so good that some folks want out of their division.

(01-08-2014 09:05 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:58 PM)Cody6003 Wrote:  How much of this conference realignment talk is driven by an attempt to get more tv money. If it were a major factor it looks like the conference would be the ones pushing for it more than individual schools.

This started because Syracuse's AD shot his mouth off in a non-confidential manner and FSU looks so good that some folks want out of their division.

Who wants out of their division?

(01-08-2014 05:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  And you UNC people kill me. Y'all act like UNC football being average is the anomaly. News flash....it's not. UNC football being even remotely relevant is the anomaly. It happens once or twice every 15-20 years or so and is surrounded by a whole lot of average to below average. So tell me again how an annual FSU game against a middle of the road program is a "must see matchup".

To be fair, UNC was the only ACC team that was capable of beating FSU this year and those IDIOTS in the scheduling office messed it up! And you Clempson fans wonder why we can't get this dynasty up and running!!