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I don't recall this being posted previously.

I wish Jurich was a bit younger. He could do amazing things as ACC Commissioner.

And there are those that said that Carolina wanted UConn......................

(12-31-2013 12:57 PM)XLance Wrote:  And there are those that said that Carolina wanted UConn......................

Well that may have been true when it was Pitt vs UConn in Fall of 2011 if one believes the Boston Globe article back then. After all they were coming off their BCS Bowl berth and an mbb's NC at that time.

That may have been one of the reasons why Louisville was able to "outwork" the Huskies to get to be Maryland's placement. They may have thought they didn't need to work hard to get it still believing Duke and UNC wanted them from just a year previously.

Cheers,
Neil

I think the addition of Pitt was purely a defensive move by the ACC.

I can report with relative certainty that the Big 12 leadership was heavy on Pitt from the start of its expansion process and that they were trying to close that deal quickly. In fact, I was pretty much convinced that was where we were headed. I was told by someone I definitely trust and who would likely know such things that we were headed to the B12 along with West Virginia and Louisville and that it was basically a done deal. Incidentally, that same person told me that Syracuse and Connecticut were waiting on an invitation from the ACC.

Truthfully, I wasn't thrilled with that news but it beat getting stuck in the dying Big East.

I think the ACC saw the B12/Pitt courtship developing and decided that to be a true East Coast Conference it couldn't be without a team in the Northeast's second most densely populated state: Pennsylvania. To me, that left the ACC with two choices:
1.) The ACC could either choose Pitt now and take a chance that UConn would still be there if they needed to expand down the road; or
2.) The ACC could take UConn now and hope that Temple would develop into an ACC level program down the road in the same way the B1G is gambling on Rutgers' development.

That's not much of a decision now, is it? That is the cliff's notes version of how Pitt ended up in the ACC.

Thank God. We would have been on lonely island with WVU in the Big 12.

Louisville has been the only surprise school to join the ACC.

Since the 50's Virginia Tech and West Virginia have been applying for admission.

In the early 90's Syracuse, Pitt, and BC were all mentioned as possible football-only members, with Syracuse actually being mentioned as a full-member.

The ACC was definitely one of Miami's top two choices in the early 90's after they dismissed the SEC and Metro. The ACC was not interested in having two Florida schools as expansion teams in basketball.

Louisville adds strong programs and it's located near the heart of the conference, something no other available school could do.

(01-02-2014 03:42 PM)esayem Wrote:  Louisville has been the only surprise school to join the ACC.

Since the 50's Virginia Tech and West Virginia have been applying for admission.

In the early 90's Syracuse, Pitt, and BC were all mentioned as possible football-only members, with Syracuse actually being mentioned as a full-member.

The ACC was definitely one of Miami's top two choices in the early 90's after they dismissed the SEC and Metro. The ACC was not interested in having two Florida schools as expansion teams in basketball.

Louisville adds strong programs and it's located near the heart of the conference, something no other available school could do.

The only other 2 schools close to the heart of ACC Conference left are WVU and Cincinnati that would fill in the Map. If the time ever comes to add again or expand with outside of say Texas and ND joining full time.

(01-01-2014 04:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I think the addition of Pitt was purely a defensive move by the ACC.

I can report with relative certainty that the Big 12 leadership was heavy on Pitt from the start of its expansion process and that they were trying to close that deal quickly. In fact, I was pretty much convinced that was where we were headed. I was told by someone I definitely trust and who would likely know such things that we were headed to the B12 along with West Virginia and Louisville and that it was basically a done deal. Incidentally, that same person told me that Syracuse and Connecticut were waiting on an invitation from the ACC.

Truthfully, I wasn't thrilled with that news but it beat getting stuck in the dying Big East.

I think the ACC saw the B12/Pitt courtship developing and decided that to be a true East Coast Conference it couldn't be without a team in the Northeast's second most densely populated state: Pennsylvania. To me, that left the ACC with two choices:
1.) The ACC could either choose Pitt now and take a chance that UConn would still be there if they needed to expand down the road; or
2.) The ACC could take UConn now and hope that Temple would develop into an ACC level program down the road in the same way the B1G is gambling on Rutgers' development.

That's not much of a decision now, is it? That is the cliff's notes version of how Pitt ended up in the ACC.

I don't know this to be the case, but I always suspected that the Pitt/Syracuse add was also defensive to make sure the ACC didn't drop below 12. If you remember, the Pitt/Syracuse announcement came right on the heels of actual ESPN reports that TAMU, Missouri, FSU and Clemson were going to be invited to the SEC.

(01-03-2014 09:26 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 04:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I think the addition of Pitt was purely a defensive move by the ACC.

I can report with relative certainty that the Big 12 leadership was heavy on Pitt from the start of its expansion process and that they were trying to close that deal quickly. In fact, I was pretty much convinced that was where we were headed. I was told by someone I definitely trust and who would likely know such things that we were headed to the B12 along with West Virginia and Louisville and that it was basically a done deal. Incidentally, that same person told me that Syracuse and Connecticut were waiting on an invitation from the ACC.

Truthfully, I wasn't thrilled with that news but it beat getting stuck in the dying Big East.

I think the ACC saw the B12/Pitt courtship developing and decided that to be a true East Coast Conference it couldn't be without a team in the Northeast's second most densely populated state: Pennsylvania. To me, that left the ACC with two choices:
1.) The ACC could either choose Pitt now and take a chance that UConn would still be there if they needed to expand down the road; or
2.) The ACC could take UConn now and hope that Temple would develop into an ACC level program down the road in the same way the B1G is gambling on Rutgers' development.

That's not much of a decision now, is it? That is the cliff's notes version of how Pitt ended up in the ACC.

I don't know this to be the case, but I always suspected that the Pitt/Syracuse add was also defensive to make sure the ACC didn't drop below 12. If you remember, the Pitt/Syracuse announcement came right on the heels of actual ESPN reports that TAMU, Missouri, FSU and Clemson were going to be invited to the SEC.

I dont remember that but I do remember that the Acc had increased its exit fee and then a week later, Pitt/SU were invited, which leads me to believe that Pitt/SU needed some assurances that the Acc wasnt going to suffer mass defections once they left the BE.