The MAC is having another poor bowl game season.

Two games ago NIU was having fantasies about being a top ten team. BGSU stomped them and then five loss Utah State beat them. They made Jordan Lynch look bad.

Then six loss Pitt manhandled BGSU. BGSU dominates us as much as any team I can recall, but was entirely overpowered by Pitt. 255 rushing yards for Pitt, ten by BGSU.

Ohio was overmatched from the time they were paired against ECU and it showed. 281 rushing yards for the Pirates.

What should have been a fairly evenly matched game, Buffalo was dominated by SDSU, which won by 25. Buffalo's highly regarded D gave up 249 yards on the ground, almost 6 per carry.

The games so far have a common thread; MAC teams being physically dominated. Jordan Lynch can't run, Pitt and ECU run at will. And Buffalo's D gets exposed.

Our last hope is that BSU beats a five loss Arkansas State team. Big deal. It's another game that proves nothing if we win, but is embarrassing if we lose. Win or lose it has been a disaster.

Nothing new, sadly. The MAC routinely sucks in bowl games, save for that one year aberration in 2011.

Observation:

MAC overall is built on offense, most MAC defenses are subpar compared to other conferences.

A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Then what does that say about Eastern because those "FCS conference in disguise" teams like Bowling Green and NIU, and Ball State, and Toledo, and Ohio, and....have administered some pretty serious beatdowns over the years. I think the MAC is a solid conference having a tough bowl year. Sorta like how the Big 10 struggles on a regular basis in their bowls.

Dear Bob,
I agree with you that the MAC is a solid conference for what it is, but I also agree with WoodenNickle that the people on the MAC board are full of hubis when it comes to how good the MAC should be. The MAC will never be a consistent winner playing the bigger schools. So realize that and be happy.

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

(12-30-2013 04:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

It's just been a really long cycle for EMU.

(12-30-2013 05:00 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 04:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

It's just been a really long cycle for EMU.

I'm assuming you all are Lions fans? How do you survive both always being let downs after a showing of promise?

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(12-30-2013 05:13 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 05:00 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 04:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

It's just been a really long cycle for EMU.

I'm assuming you all are Lions fans? How do you survive both always being let downs after a showing of promise?

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Alcohol. Massive quantities.

(12-30-2013 05:17 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 05:13 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 05:00 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 04:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

It's just been a really long cycle for EMU.

I'm assuming you all are Lions fans? How do you survive both always being let downs after a showing of promise?

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Alcohol. Massive quantities.

I'm just glad I'm a hockey fan, I wouldn't be able to stand watching the Lions.

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(12-30-2013 05:13 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 05:00 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 04:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:57 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:51 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  A few of the folks on the main board focus a lot on attendance and are constantly scheming about how the MAC should add teams, drop teams, etc. Perhaps this will remind them that the MAC really is the bottom feeder in FBS and their desire to be big time is just a pipe dream. In reality, the MAC is a FCS conference in disguise.

Most of that chatter comes from NIU fans who are going to find out next year how cyclical things are in the MAC.

Ohio fans will be getting that lesson too.

The only thing that has not been cyclical has been EMU's substandard performance. Our futility has been remarkably consistent.

It's just been a really long cycle for EMU.

I'm assuming you all are Lions fans? How do you survive both always being let downs after a showing of promise?

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Not me! I don't care about any pro sports.


And far as the MAC goes that what we get for playing such weak schedules. I know some will claim our schedule wasn't weak, I said MAC!

EMU has been very cyclical. Every 4 or 5 years a new coach is hired they raise the win total to something like 4 wins give or take but follow it up with a 1 or 2 win season and never regain the momentum and get canned. It's bee quite prdicitable actually.

Love it when fans of other teams come into our forum and tell us what we already know about our own teams.

(12-30-2013 06:36 PM)fbgab Wrote:  EMU has been very cyclical. Every 4 or 5 years a new coach is hired they raise the win total to something like 4 wins give or take but follow it up with a 1 or 2 win season and never regain the momentum and get canned. It's bee quite prdicitable actually.

(12-30-2013 07:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Love it when fans of other teams come into our forum and tell us what we already know about our own teams.

It's what passes for witty in Kalamazoo.

(12-30-2013 07:34 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 07:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Love it when fans of other teams come into our forum and tell us what we already know about our own teams.

It's what passes for witty in Kalamazoo.

Don't be too harsh on the young man. It's a quiet night and the boards are fairly quiet - especially on New Year's Eve eve. Besides, Kalamazoo hasn't had too much to crow about recently either. We're like kids on winter break - everybody plays nice for awhile... then they get bored and start picking on each other.

(12-30-2013 12:04 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  The MAC is having another poor bowl game season.

Two games ago NIU was having fantasies about being a top ten team. BGSU stomped them and then five loss Utah State beat them. They made Jordan Lynch look bad.

Then six loss Pitt manhandled BGSU. BGSU dominates us as much as any team I can recall, but was entirely overpowered by Pitt. 255 rushing yards for Pitt, ten by BGSU.

Ohio was overmatched from the time they were paired against ECU and it showed. 281 rushing yards for the Pirates.

What should have been a fairly evenly matched game, Buffalo was dominated by SDSU, which won by 25. Buffalo's highly regarded D gave up 249 yards on the ground, almost 6 per carry.

The games so far have a common thread; MAC teams being physically dominated. Jordan Lynch can't run, Pitt and ECU run at will. And Buffalo's D gets exposed.

Our last hope is that BSU beats a five loss Arkansas State team. Big deal. It's another game that proves nothing if we win, but is embarrassing if we lose. Win or lose it has been a disaster.

I think there are too many bowl games and the record of the MAC is probably a pretty good indication of that fact. When the bowl committee allows teams with barely a winning record into the post-season there is a fairly high chance that those teams are going to lose their contest.

Yeah, everyone wants their team in a bowl game but then they're disappointed when their 7-5 or 8-4 team loses, all the while refusing to recognize that their team achieved that 7-5 or 8-4 record against lower echelon opponents (D-IAA) or by in-conference opponents in a fairly weak conference when compared with the conferences that the big boys belong to.

Someone else here said it first and I can't remember who but they were right. The MAC is much more like a FCS conference than it is a BCS conference. A MAC team or two will inevitably beat a BCS team early in the season every year but that MAC team tends to be one of the better MAC teams and that BCS team tend to be one of the "not so better" BCS teams, albeit from a BCS conference. Heck, even North Dakota State University (FCS) beat Kansas State (BCS) this past season. It was the first game of the season and Kansas State was a middle of the road Big 12 team. So, even FCS schools do what MAC schools do, every once in a while, against the big boys. That in no way means that the MAC or FCS schools can compete against BCS school in head to head competition across the board.

Were you aware that Pitt was 6-6 overall, in the ACC, last season? That Pitt team finished 6, out of 7 teams, in the Coastal Division of the ACC. Their conference record was 3-5. That means that BG was beaten by one of the worst teams in the ACC.

Must admit guys I'm disappointed in the responses. I expected a " cyclical like EMU beating WMU every year". Golden opportunity missed.