CUSA: 10
AAC: 3
MWC: 3
MAC: 3
SBC:1 (Troy @ #300)

Thats pretty bad

By those numbers, not only is the SBC better the CUSA in football, but in basketball too. I'll accept that kind of math.

(12-30-2013 10:15 AM)Usajags Wrote:  By those numbers, not only is the SBC better the CUSA in football, but in basketball too. I'll accept that kind of math.

I'm more impressed that Texas St isn't under 200.

Don't worry, this is one number we at App State can "help" with!

Just be sure to work on your free throws....

Come on now, you guys are in North Carolina, you should be able to put something together.

They have a good arena too.

Question for App fans. Does you athletic department fully fund every sport or do you operate on a tiered funding system.

(12-30-2013 10:15 AM)Usajags Wrote:  By those numbers, not only is the SBC better the CUSA in football, but in basketball too. I'll accept that kind of math.

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2014/conferencerpi

AAC 9
MWC 10
MAC 12
Sun Belt 14
C-USA 20

The bottom of C-USA is just putrid. UTSA's RPI is 351 out of 351 D1 teams.

C-USA expanded with a market-first mentality, with a secondary requirement of fielding a football team. Only Louisiana Tech is a new addition with an RPI not worse than 200.

(12-30-2013 08:31 AM)panama Wrote:  CUSA: 10
AAC: 3
MWC: 3
MAC: 3
SBC:1 (Troy @ #300)

Do you have a link? the two that I look at has way different numbers than you are seeing. Realtime (free) hasn't updated yet and they use a different formula than satatsheet

Being above 200 is nothing to be proud of...especially when 70% of the conference's record is below .500 and 60% of the conference has a winning% of 33% or below and the top of the conference isn't setting it on fire.

63%
60%
60%

coming into the season we had 5 schools expecting to have the best team they had in YEARS.

CUSA has 8 schools with a winning% above .500, 7 above .6000 and 4 above .7300

So the SBC has teams that got our RPI by losing and CUSA by winning but the above numbers could have changed since yesterday...

who here would rather win or loss?

http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/c-u...=2013-2014


http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_sbelt_Men.html

(12-30-2013 10:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  Just be sure to work on your free throws....

Come on now, you guys are in North Carolina, you should be able to put something together.

It's ok guys, we play our 4th sub-D1 game of the year tonight, in which we are looking to improve to 4-0 in those ball games! Unfortunately we are 0-8 in all the other games. Apathy seems to have set in for most App basketball fans. Next year we put the Capel era behind us and have almost literally nowhere to go but up.

Some of these RPI sites being used is not removing the game we play against our opponents from the record and unless it's been changed it is suppose to be removed from the formula.


others words
if Western (7-4) plays USA (3-6) the game is not added as a win or loss to either schools opponents part of the RPI...

some of these sites are using raw data without removing the game vs opponents

(12-30-2013 10:46 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 08:31 AM)panama Wrote:  CUSA: 10
AAC: 3
MWC: 3
MAC: 3
SBC:1 (Troy @ #300)

Do you have a link? the two that I look at has way different numbers than you are seeing. Realtime (free) hasn't updated yet and they use a different formula than satatsheet

Being above 200 is nothing to be proud of...especially when 70% of the conference's record is below .500 and 60% of the conference has a winning% of 33% or below and the top of the conference isn't setting it on fire.

63%
60%
60%

coming into the season we had 5 schools expecting to have the best team they had in YEARS.

CUSA has 8 schools with a winning% above .500, 7 above .6000 and 4 above .7300

So the SBC has teams that got our RPI by losing and CUSA by winning but the above numbers could have changed since yesterday...

who here would rather win or loss?

http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/c-u...=2013-2014


http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_sbelt_Men.html

How many of CUSA's wins come against Non D1 competition? I know a few of those teams have played 4 games against Non D1 opponents. Most of our teams play one, maybe two.

As a conference I counted 21 non D-1 games for C-USA a week or two ago, with a few left to be played.

(12-30-2013 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 10:46 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 08:31 AM)panama Wrote:  CUSA: 10
AAC: 3
MWC: 3
MAC: 3
SBC:1 (Troy @ #300)

Do you have a link? the two that I look at has way different numbers than you are seeing. Realtime (free) hasn't updated yet and they use a different formula than satatsheet

Being above 200 is nothing to be proud of...especially when 70% of the conference's record is below .500 and 60% of the conference has a winning% of 33% or below and the top of the conference isn't setting it on fire.

63%
60%
60%

coming into the season we had 5 schools expecting to have the best team they had in YEARS.

CUSA has 8 schools with a winning% above .500, 7 above .6000 and 4 above .7300

So the SBC has teams that got our RPI by losing and CUSA by winning but the above numbers could have changed since yesterday...

who here would rather win or loss?

http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/c-u...=2013-2014


http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_sbelt_Men.html

How many of CUSA's wins come against Non D1 competition? I know a few of those teams have played 4 games against Non D1 opponents. Most of our teams play one, maybe two.

The numbers I quoted were all D1 wins and losses


here's realtime's up to date numbers (all D1)

I get mine from Joe Lunardi at ESPN, updated daily.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/rpi

Sun Belt
75 Louisiana-Lafayette
105 Western Kentucky
122 Louisiana-Monroe
129 Arkansas State
182 Georgia State
186 Texas-Arlington
188 Texas State
194 Arkansas-Little Rock
196 South Alabama
300 Troy

C-USA
48 Southern Miss
99 UAB
125 Charlotte
147 Louisiana Tech
150 UTEP
160 Tulsa
223 Middle Tennessee
233 East Carolina
234 North Texas
236 Florida International
260 Marshall
261 Old Dominion
283 Rice
299 Tulane
309 Florida Atlantic
351 UTSA

Regardless of the source used. CUSA is not as strong overall in basketball as the SBC this year.

We need to add NMSU to really help out.

(12-30-2013 03:24 PM)slycat Wrote:  Regardless of the source used. CUSA is not as strong overall in basketball as the SBC this year.

Take Western out and it changes but what is obvious to me is that if you think a conference with 7 out of 10 teams with winning % of 33% or worse is stronger than a conference where 5 schools have a winning% of 66% or higher and 8 schools with a 54% or better winning% then your idead of what's "stronger" probably isn't what most and in most...everyone but a SBC fan would think is "stronger"

2 of the 3 departing C-USA schools are worse than 200 currently.